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Sometimes I think "Definitive Gaze" is the best first track on a debut album ever.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 10:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Has anyone heard Graph? I got earcom 1 last week and the vocals on their song are very Devotoesqe, the backing reminds me more of PiL though.

leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 10:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I find it very hard to choose between the first 3 albums - they are all superb. I remember helping a friend move house quite a few years ago, putting on a tape of Real Life, and both singing along to the guitar solos in the car. Secondhand Daylight screams epic at you - I probably played this album the most, before some evil swine nicked it from my collection. Soap I probably have played the least, although I adore the opener Because You're Frightened. It's everything that the Cure's Primary should be but isn't - the attack of McGeogh's guitar, the siren keyboards, devoto's confusion of love and fear.

dr x o'skeleton, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 10:39 (eighteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
Secondhand Daylight! Another superlative plunder from the annals...

to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Sunday, 28 January 2007 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

totally classic

latebloomer: crapness 2 the Nth degree (latebloomer), Sunday, 28 January 2007 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Remasters of the four studio albums in early March, apparently. Haven't seen any other details. Anyone?

Andy_K (Andy_K), Sunday, 28 January 2007 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Jerky Versions (at last) as well.

The info located on this page (between items on Testament and America):

EMI has announced the release of definitive CD editions of Magazine's four studio albums: Real Life, Secondhand Daylight, The Correct Use Of Soap and Magic, Murder And The Weather. Jerky Versions Of The Dream, the first solo album recorded by Magazine mainman Howard Devoto, is also reissued.

All five albums were originally issued by Virgin Records. Each CD has been newly remastered from the original tapes at Abbey Road.

The CD of each album is supplemented by the complete non-album tracks, drawn from the album's contemporary singles. Jerky Versions Of The Dream also features the Howard Devoto's never-before-issued John Peel session from 1983.

Andy_K (Andy_K), Sunday, 28 January 2007 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Good news. I was tempted by the albums being £5 in Fopp but held off thinking they're due for a remaster. I already have the box set so I don't actually need the bonus singles tracks.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Sunday, 28 January 2007 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Remasters? Awesome - as long as they don't compress the **** out of them.

GLC (ZakAce), Sunday, 28 January 2007 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Ulp, I bought mine in Fopp for a fiver! Hmph. I guess I could do without the brown-nosing liner notes inevitable in the remaster anyway.

I also prefer getting *just* the album, I hate it when extra tracks are tacked onto the end. I want a single artistic statement, and nothing more, whenever I buy an album. The single exception to this is Ride's GBA, but I count those tracks as part of the album anyway so it's OK.

Listening to this whilst a little drunk is fucking fantastic. Matches my confused yet relaxed, confortable yet slightly depressed mood.

to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Monday, 29 January 2007 02:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I picked up Correct Use of Soap at about the time I got Singles Going Steady, and never really got into it all that much. (I also got Crossing the Red Sea With The Adverts and I think I prefer that too). So maybe it's time to give it a reexamination...

js (honestengine), Monday, 29 January 2007 02:13 (seventeen years ago) link

UGH. Now I have to buy all of them again. Any word on a reissue of the "Play" record?

kwhitehead (stephen schmidt), Monday, 29 January 2007 03:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm going to give these guys a try again. Only a couple of songs have ever stuck with me, sorry to say.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 January 2007 03:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Do! They seem like the kind of band you'd enjoy, given Chameleons/Cure love. Tracks on Secondhand Daylight I'd recommend thus far are Cut-Off Shapes, Talk To The Body, Back To Nature and Permafrost.

to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Monday, 29 January 2007 03:43 (seventeen years ago) link

No, I know all these songs. But very little ever actually sticks. (And this has been over fifteen years of listening to them.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 January 2007 03:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Meh, I guess. There'll always be musically-revered bands who never quite register for certain listeners (I, for one, never got Led Zeppelin or Nirvana), and it's one of the great assets of such discussion!

After a day's listening, I'd say that most of the album will stick. I've already noticed a comparison between the piano in the intro to 'Back To Nature' and that in Mogwai's 'Auto Rock', sigh. Which reminds me, I may have to re-evaluate Mr. Beast at some stage; I gave it an awful kicking after not too many listens...

to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Monday, 29 January 2007 04:06 (seventeen years ago) link

"Jerky Versions Of The Dream, the first solo album recorded by Magazine mainman Howard Devoto, is also reissued."

Hurrah! And about bloody time too!

"I know all these songs. But very little ever actually sticks."

Ned, are you familiar with "Rainy Season" from the aforementioned solo album?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Doubtless I will be.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

seven months pass...

I'm going to give these guys a try again. Only a couple of songs have ever stuck with me, sorry to say

And....Ned?

Now Playing : I Wanted Your Heart. OMG, OMG, OMG!

This is as close as I get/as I ever get...

Dr.C, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 16:05 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Somehow, I'd forgotten that Martin Hannett produced The Correct Use of Soap. Of the remasters, that's the one I'd want.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 3 November 2007 01:28 (sixteen years ago) link

"Real Life" is great too.

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 3 November 2007 02:08 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Geir likes Real Life?!!!??!

Damn.

Great album btw, just listened to it.

stephen, Sunday, 27 January 2008 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Fantastic album...It seems to come out of nowhere - a true original.

Bob Six, Sunday, 27 January 2008 19:48 (sixteen years ago) link

i love the album with The Great Beautician In The Sky on it. the one every one raves about - correct use of soap, not quite so much. production is a bit too 80s pop sounding.

titchyschneiderMk2, Sunday, 27 January 2008 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link

It's a crime that you can only get the Peel Sessions disc in the 3-disc box. As is often the case, many of these versions outstrip their studio counterparts.

Mr. Odd, Sunday, 27 January 2008 22:20 (sixteen years ago) link

The 3 disc box set was as the same price as a normal CD when I bought it. Maybe the price has gone up since then I suppose, dunno.

Colonel Poo, Sunday, 27 January 2008 23:00 (sixteen years ago) link

great performance clip on youtube of "song from under the floorboards" w/a seriously funky black bass player

m coleman, Sunday, 27 January 2008 23:39 (sixteen years ago) link

today I bumped into you again
I have no idea what you want
but there was something I meant to say

As the day stops dead
at the place where we're lost
I will drug you and fuck you
on the permafrost

m coleman, Sunday, 27 January 2008 23:49 (sixteen years ago) link

classic, absolutely

m coleman, Sunday, 27 January 2008 23:49 (sixteen years ago) link

today I bumped into you again
I have no idea what you want
but there was something I meant to say

As the day stops dead
at the place where we're lost
I will drug you and fuck you
on the permafrost

Words to live by.

Andy K, Sunday, 27 January 2008 23:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Totally forgot the line about drugging and fucking until I played that song on my radio show this past week. Hi there, FCC!

kate78, Monday, 28 January 2008 02:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Great, but better than Wire? wtf no.

S-, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 00:38 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

mick mercer linked to this band today: Gloria Mundi

Gloria Mundi - Myspace
http://www.myspace.com/gloriamundifansite

They released an album on RCA in 1977 ! and sounded a bit like Magazine. Were Magazine inspired by this band? did they ever tour together?

Eddie Maelov - vocals // Sunshine Patteson - keyboards, vocals// Beethoven - guitar// c.c. - sax// Mike Nichols - drums// Ice - bass//

djmartian, Saturday, 1 March 2008 17:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Don't think there was a Gloria Mundi connection. I did buy a couple of their singles when they came out, but I thought of them more like Ultravox at the time, but slight more trad-rock band. Of course trad-rock was what Magazine (and Joy Division, Echo, U2 etc) added back into new wave.

I'm not sure GM even preceeded Magazine, at least in my attention. There were a couple of bands like that, punilux, Ricki and the last days, erm, and others....

Of the two UK tours I remember magazine doing one had Simple Minds supporting and the next had Bauhaus.

I only saw them once, at the Astoria in Edinburgh with Bauhaus (and local band Josef K). This would have been April 1980, I also remember it was actually my mate's 20th Birthday and he, years later, became mildly famous and once mentioned that gig as one of his all time favourites.

Incidentally, I just got tickets to go see Barry Adamson play in Glasgow, and so that's... gulp, 28 years since I last saw him.... wonder if he still looks as cool? I know I do (grin).

Sandy Blair, Saturday, 1 March 2008 19:55 (sixteen years ago) link

I like Eddie and Sunshine's later pop record on Survival. Somewhere in Europe is a gem of a song.

dan selzer, Saturday, 1 March 2008 20:46 (sixteen years ago) link

One of the members of the Monochrome Set, Jeremy Harrington, was also in Gloria Mundi. Just for the record.

deedeedeextrovert, Sunday, 2 March 2008 04:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Just for the record.

ahem

Bob Six, Sunday, 2 March 2008 09:43 (sixteen years ago) link

six months pass...

They're playing their first date since 1980 at The Forum, on Friday Feb 13. Excitement!

mike t-diva, Thursday, 11 September 2008 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Who is playing guitar?

Robin Simon the obv choice, I suppose?

Mildred Dixon (Pashmina), Thursday, 11 September 2008 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I came across them in my vinyl stacks last night and had a strange feeling about them as if someone had mentioned them to me recently but I couldn't place it. I'm glad to hear they're going to play.

Bimble, Thursday, 11 September 2008 17:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Guitarist TBC, according to their Myspace. Also a Manchester date on Sat Feb 14.

http://www.myspace.com/magazineofficial

mike t-diva, Thursday, 11 September 2008 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link

funny, soapy correctness always got the raves from critics back in the day, but i always preferred real life, and even secondhand daylight. great opener on soap, but too many average sounding songs later on.

Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 11 September 2008 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Noko is playing guitar.

I wish I was.

Dr.C, Friday, 12 September 2008 09:02 (fifteen years ago) link

I wish Pete Shelley was.

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 12 September 2008 09:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I could care less really but in this case no McGeogh = no credibility for real.

The Real Slim Whitman (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 September 2008 09:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Is this likely to sell out early d'ye reckon? Cos I've got a ton of gigs this month already and would like to put off buying a ticket for this for a month or 2.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Friday, 12 September 2008 10:05 (fifteen years ago) link

tickets PURCHASED
so excited

salsa shark, Friday, 12 September 2008 11:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Any hint of further dates? Like in, say, Glasgow?

And Dr C - Noko?

Hmm, bit of a let down, the claim earlier was 'a manchester guitarist' and I was hoping for Vini Riley, expecting Johnny Marr and praying it wasn't Billy Duffy.

Sandy Blair, Saturday, 13 September 2008 08:41 (fifteen years ago) link

'Shot By Both Sides' will always sound like it was released today.

Rhythm of Cruelty and 'Song From Under the Floorboards' classic too, the latter for the opening lyrics

I am angry I am ill and Im as ugly as sin
My irritability keeps me alive and kicking

Fer Ark, Saturday, 13 September 2008 08:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Shit - how could I forget 'The Light Pours out of me'?

I'm obviously not a hardcore Magazine um devoto...

Always preferred the other band.

Fer Ark, Saturday, 13 September 2008 08:58 (fifteen years ago) link

magic murder and the weather may actually be my secret favourite, tho i haven't revisited any of them for a long while

i used slightly to know ben mandelson, mcgeoch's replacement -- he co-ran a record company whose records i often reviewed, and he was both a nice person and a very folk-scholarly person, which was probably not quite the right vibe for magazine but i liked it myself

mark s, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 12:25 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

awake much of the night with truly astonishing dental pain (on antibiotics, direct to root canal when I get home from work but work mean travel and I've got several days yet to go) and the music of magazine specifically the secondhand daylight album is helping. ty magazine, top group

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 20 January 2023 11:45 (one year ago) link

Check out "Seconds to Last" by Colin Newman for more explicitly dental-themed post-punk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fME8qjXbV1I

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 20 January 2023 16:38 (one year ago) link


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