― chaki in charge (chaki), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 04:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 04:27 (nineteen years ago) link
this could be the coolest album cover in a while
― Aerodynamic (Aerodynamic), Saturday, 22 January 2005 02:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 22 January 2005 02:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Aerodynamic (Aerodynamic), Saturday, 22 January 2005 02:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― briania (briania), Saturday, 22 January 2005 02:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― charleston charge (chaki), Saturday, 19 February 2005 03:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 19 February 2005 04:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― charleston charge (chaki), Saturday, 19 February 2005 21:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 19 February 2005 21:52 (nineteen years ago) link
John Frusciantes guitar solos are blistering, and Cygnus... Vismund Cygnus is like nothing i've ever heard before. Despite what most people have said about it i think The Widow is great, and obviously the only single.
The tracklisting makes no sense and its tough to work out when the different suites start and end, but after about 20 noodling minutes it finishes strongly with the Sarcophagi reprise.
Omar said with every bit of improvisation they lose another At the Drive-in fan, and that is why they improvise so much. I doubt they'll have many ATD-I fans after this, but i think its pretty mind blowing.
― dmun, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 17:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 17:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Don't Ever Antagonize The Horn (AaronHz), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 15:06 (nineteen years ago) link
It does lose focus slightly with the last track, i'd say track 9 could have been cut and track 10 could have been halved, but the rest of the album is gold.
Cedric has matured a hell of a lot since At the Drive-in. He doesnt shout so much anymore and the production of the album is a huge improvement with Omar is charge, (though some of my friends think its a little over produced).
10 bucks, buy it man.
― dmun, Tuesday, 1 March 2005 16:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― JaXoN Hole (JasonD), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 17:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― A hurtling cone of blue Cherenkov light, Tuesday, 1 March 2005 23:32 (nineteen years ago) link
they kick about a third as much ass as a Dream Theater side project.
ouch!
― Don't Ever Antagonize The Horny (AaronHz), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 23:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― charleston charge (chaki), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
Everyone's reporting that the album is five tracks long, including every review, so I picked it up today, only to find that my copy is 12 tracks. Now I know that it's a bunch of "suites", but everything has been said that the final track clocks in at 31 minutes, while it's all split up on mine.
-- Chris Roberts (silveras...), March 1st, 2005 1:54 PM. (link)
Answers_________________________ I heard that the reason they couldnt make it a 5 track album was because legally they'd still owe the record company another album, as a 5 track cd would be an EP. Still i dont know why they chose 12 tracks. If they had split it into all the suites it would have been 18 tracks, but as it stands the tracklisting looks like this.
1. Cygnus...Vismund Cygnus 2. The Widow 3. L'Via L'Viaquez 4. Miranda that ghost just isn't holy anymore 5-12 Cassandra Gemini
It is very difficult to see where the suites change over especially on Cassandra Gemini, and i think its just a rushed poorly thought out final tracklist.
-- dmun (a_s_fishe...), March 1st, 2005 3:00 PM. (link)
That's fucking retarded if it's true. "Close to the Edge" has three tracks on the CD, though you could split it into suites if you went by the liner notes. "Thick As A Brick" has 2 (technically would be one track if that was possible back in '72). Is Universal gonna tell us that those are EPs?
― Don't Ever Antagonize The Horny (AaronHz), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 00:10 (nineteen years ago) link
wtf? writers be stupid!
― charleston charge (chaki), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 00:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― A hurtling cone of blue Cherenkov light, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 00:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Don't Ever Antagonize The Horny (AaronHz), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 00:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― from the scarp, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 00:20 (nineteen years ago) link
Anything they hate this much HAS to be good.
― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 00:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Don't Ever Antagonize The Horny (AaronHz), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 00:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― skin pocked like cantaloupe rind, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 00:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― JaXoN Hole (JasonD), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 02:48 (nineteen years ago) link
yes, L'Via L'Viaquez has a few latin/salsa/psych/prog moments.
― JaXoN Hole (JasonD), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 02:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― green uno skip card (ex machina), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 09:07 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm guessing thats deliberate, Cedrics lyrics on Deloused were pretty much nonsensical gibberish, whereas on Frances hes trying to tell a story and Omar overcompensates by sticking the vocals real high in the mix.
― dmun, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 09:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― green uno skip card (ex machina), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 09:19 (nineteen years ago) link
Also, the last song is called "Cassandra Geminni", not "...Gemini". Don't ask me about the conceptual significance of that particular spelling.
― JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 12:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― blawa (blawa), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 12:50 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.stylusmagazine.com/review.php?ID=2789
― A hurtling cone of blue Cherenkov light, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 17:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mickey (modestmickey), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 19:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 20:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 20:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 20:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Theotormon, Thursday, 3 March 2005 03:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― charleston charge (chaki), Thursday, 3 March 2005 03:46 (nineteen years ago) link
OTM! All the best prog bands have WORST fucking lyrics.*cough* crimson *cough*
― Don't Ever Antagonize The Horny (AaronHz), Thursday, 3 March 2005 04:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Don't Ever Antagonize The Horny (AaronHz), Saturday, 5 March 2005 00:55 (nineteen years ago) link
Drumming = classicSwirly soundscapes = dud(e)
― deathlike technical blasting death metal with a soul of suicidal rationalis (Jor, Tuesday, 8 March 2005 18:33 (nineteen years ago) link
Who's buying this thing? I don't get it.
― Keith C (kcraw916), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 01:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 02:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― I got the job because I was so mean, while somehow appearing so kind. (AaronHz), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 02:03 (nineteen years ago) link
I thought that was Faust. (ducking)
― Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 02:08 (nineteen years ago) link
I was just trying to sound like the most annoying possible version of myself.
― RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 02:13 (nineteen years ago) link
ihttp://www.racerxband.com/pictures/80pix/images/racerx15.jpg
― Sordid Past, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 02:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― jazz-weary of years and drums and hawaiian guitars, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 02:33 (nineteen years ago) link
xpost:
It was Ikey Owens that hated the way that Omar wanted to track the songs up, particularly on Frances The Mute. Theodore and Alderete enjoyed working that way, but it's possible it wore Theodore down over time. I've heard numerous things - Theodore didn't like the music, he didn't like playing live etc. etc.
― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 20:40 (seven years ago) link
Listening to this again, and it's still a masterpiece.
― Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Friday, 17 March 2017 23:04 (seven years ago) link
yes
can someone correct the thread-title already
― an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Friday, 17 March 2017 23:40 (seven years ago) link