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Def. The Three Way, which is the most Zombie-like. "Socs Hip." I don't have that record anymore and can't find it anywhere.

Kate, Sunday, 4 May 2008 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

I still listen to Zero Population Growth on occasion, but now I honestly can't remember much of their other albums.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 5 May 2008 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

Some of the through-composition on The 3-Way is ridiculously impressive; I think it let itself get written off as a pastiche record, but it had that great pastiche-record quality where having heavy inspiration lets you make something a million times more complex and ornate and ambitious than a lot of the stuff you're drawing on.

There's a song on Eccsame called "The Hermit Crab," which I listened to once on a listening station in 1996 or so. I didn't buy the record, but the song stuck with me enough that I spent years afterward trying to re-write it myself, a bit, from bad memory: I'd try and write a song something like this great song whose details I couldn't begin to remember. I dug the song up, recently, and it was a bit weird to listen to: every other hook, riff, or melody has some distorted misremembered cousin in songs I've written since then. (Even one three-word snippet of lyrics!) I suppose a decent amount of the original wound up embedded deep in my head, and kept coming out without my realizing it.

nabisco, Monday, 5 May 2008 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

There's an unreleased song that can be downloaded from the lilys' myspace page called "The right thing to do." It's odd, and not a greatest hit or anything. After downloading it, I notice that it's already labeled as track #10, and now I wonder just how many other unreleased tracks there are. Hmmmm.

dlp9001, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

I can see Ned's complaints about their more-MBV sounding stuff. They aren't all that great at it

they were about as good at it as anyone else; consider the sliver of money they recorded that first album on and, sonically, how close it is to Loveless (and consider when it was recorded as well), that's impressive. Songwriting wise it doesn't match up but everything else is close enough in my book.

I still think Eccsame the Photon Band is better though

akm, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

i am hoping the mythical pas/cal album will end up in the place where i wish the lilys had ended up after 'the 3-way'. the first song from the pas/cal album is very lilys, well from that time period.

keythkeyth, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 01:39 (eleven years ago) link

seven months pass...

what up bitches i still dig this can anybody recommend other 60s type ish with real memorable hooks that i can go live inside whenever i get tired of how fuckin b.s. rap in 09 is

and what, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 05:39 (ten years ago) link

lol this song always reminds me how i eff w/ these dudes

and what, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 05:41 (ten years ago) link

i heartily recommend outrageous cherry

Lemonade In Hammocks (electricsound), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 05:57 (ten years ago) link

five months pass...

I guess I never paid enough attention to their "indie rock" album Brief History of Amazing Letdowns. Suddenly it sounds awfully good.

Someone was playing "Ginger" at a bakery that I went to the other day, and jesus it's great! I saw a movie not long ago (Keeping Up With The Steins) that has "Any Place I've Lived" over the closing credits. Took me a while to realize who it was. Their stealth album?

dlp9001, Sunday, 28 June 2009 19:51 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

Whoa I didn't realize somebody was talking about them so recently (relatively) on here. I found that album used in April or May and I love it. Its their most consistent of their early period (which I guess is easier since its their briefest) but yeah it hasn't aged one bit as far as I'm concerned.

Evan, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 04:53 (ten years ago) link

i am otm all over this thread

suzi cointreau (electricsound), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 04:57 (ten years ago) link

Loves them Lilys.

'Better..' is a desert island record.

Why they never made it on that stupid Neu tribute disc is beyond me.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 11:04 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

People who like really big sounding songs should do themselves a favor and listen to "Eskimo" off of the Tone Bender EP.

Evan, Monday, 15 February 2010 14:23 (nine years ago) link

been listening to the 3-way a lot recently and loving it.

mizzell, Monday, 15 February 2010 14:41 (nine years ago) link

I tried that one, but I can't get behind it. Its not bad, but I just feel cheated by them cause its so opposite of the sound they had that I love. This problem would have been 90% solved if they just decided to go by a different band name when they went all Kinks-y.

Evan, Monday, 15 February 2010 14:45 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Eccsame the Photon Band is pure nostalgia for me.
It may not be their most unique or consistent record, but it always pleases me.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 16:59 (nine years ago) link

Is Day Of The Monkey on that one? I love that song.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:25 (nine years ago) link

Its so great, but whenever I try to play it for (most) people I know, they seem bored. As an album, not for pop fans.

Evan, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:29 (nine years ago) link

Day of the Monkey is on that one and it was the song I was listening to when I wrote the post.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:33 (nine years ago) link

To my ears it's inconsistent in sound and almost a little too low-key in places but I really love that album. It gets better with repeated listening.

You Weaked It! (MaresNest), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:40 (nine years ago) link

Oh it also totally soundtracked my first sexual experience so that probably has something to do with my fondness for it.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:43 (nine years ago) link

Also I disagree with you Trip on the uniqueness. Definitely their most unique.

Evan, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:49 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, I guess that makes sense, too.
Such a schizo band.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:57 (nine years ago) link

so weird that the 3-Way gets so much hate. sure its pastiche, but that is some of the best-written pastiche ever. the arrangements are just INSANE, packed with so much detail, tons of bizarre changes and chords all held together by a seemingly endless supply of memorable hooks. I don't think its their best and I like all their incarnations, just felt this album needed defending.

mark roflr (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:59 (nine years ago) link

yeah I completely agree

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 18:02 (nine years ago) link

also I saw this dude live a few months ago and it was quite possibly the worst show I've seen in a while

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 18:03 (nine years ago) link

i think the 3 way is my favorite. haven't been able to get into eccsame, but i just heard it for the first time in the last year or so, and i was into better and 3 way when they came out.

mizzell, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 18:16 (nine years ago) link

I don't hate the 3-Way, but I love the early stuff sooo much that 3-Way is a betrayal, regardless of its quality on its own.

Evan, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 18:45 (nine years ago) link

band doesn't owe you anything FYI

mark roflr (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 18:52 (nine years ago) link

Haha I know, I didn't mean it that way. I really just can't get enough of their earlier sound. Again I don't dislike the later stuff.

Evan, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 18:57 (nine years ago) link

funnily enough the only songs that worked live for me were one off of amazing letdowns

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 19:02 (nine years ago) link

ones

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 19:03 (nine years ago) link

eleven months pass...

anyone have mp3s of the Which Studies The Past? 7" they'd like to share?

mizzell, Monday, 28 February 2011 21:40 (eight years ago) link

also interested in the better-era b-sides, touch the water and more than that is deserved

mizzell, Monday, 28 February 2011 21:43 (eight years ago) link

the 2nd of 'better' with the blue cover has those 2 b-sides on it, i'm sure that's probably hanging round the blogs somewhere

i did have the 'studies' mp3s but they were such a poor rip i deleted them, sorry... i need to rip my own copy but that will probably happen shortly after the loveless reissue comes out

haydens gonna hade (electricsound), Monday, 28 February 2011 21:46 (eight years ago) link

2nd issue of 'better'

haydens gonna hade (electricsound), Monday, 28 February 2011 21:46 (eight years ago) link

might be able to help you out, mizzy. let me take a peak when i get home. you have both versions of "better" too?

A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Monday, 28 February 2011 22:08 (eight years ago) link

I've been listening to 'Better' for years and it vexes me that I still don't know exactly why there are two versions, I even asked Kurt once.

Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Monday, 28 February 2011 22:11 (eight years ago) link

isn't it plus orchestration or something? i don't think i've ever heard the second version of better. is it worth it iyo?

dell (del), Monday, 28 February 2011 22:13 (eight years ago) link

There's different tracks, additional instruments and production. You should check out both.

It's more the why than the what that has piqued me all these years.

Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Monday, 28 February 2011 22:22 (eight years ago) link

oh ok, thanks

well there's that second version of precollection w/different production and extra songs...confusing

dell (del), Monday, 28 February 2011 22:24 (eight years ago) link

also what was his response when you asked him about it?

dell (del), Monday, 28 February 2011 22:25 (eight years ago) link

Ah well, it was in a very noisy club, I was DJ'ing/trying to concentrate and I was kinda drunk and he's so frigging tall and I was a bit overwhelmed really, so I can't really remember.

Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 22:14 (eight years ago) link

Okay, I have located my 4 CD copies of Lilys' Better Can't Make Your Life Better:
1) US edition #1 on Primary/Elektra (tracks #10-11 = The Sammael Sea/Returns Every Morning)
2) JP edition #1 on east/west Japan with bonus: Welfare Murder Plot/Baby's A Dealer (aka Who Studies The Past? subpop single of the month)
3) UK edition #2 on Che (remixed with strings, bassoon, bass harmonica, etc.), tracks #10-12 = Touch The Water*/Returns Every Morning/More Than That Is Deserved
*Apples In Stereo cover
4) JP edition #2 again on east/west Japan with bonus tracks which look like it is the Services For The Soon To Be Departed EP tacked on.

A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:08 (eight years ago) link

2) JP edition #1 on east/west Japan with bonus: Welfare Murder Plot/Baby's A Dealer (aka Who Studies The Past? subpop single of the month)

welp there's one for the wishlist

fat either way, of course (electricsound), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:08 (eight years ago) link

cover arts:
1-2 have the pink/blue hand diamonds on peachy/yellow background
3-4 have the red/yellow hands on ocean blue back ground

A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:09 (eight years ago) link

Would love to hear those tracks on the first two.

Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:10 (eight years ago) link

y'all want #2 then? I can U/L the full CD and then just the last 2 songs.

A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:55 (eight years ago) link

pls pls

fat either way, of course (electricsound), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:58 (eight years ago) link

Not seeing it... :-( Hopefully MaresNest can find it.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 28 February 2019 20:37 (seven months ago) link

seven months pass...

https://i.imgur.com/ubQgRrF.jpg

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 19 October 2019 06:38 (three days ago) link

Grunge album coming soon?

I did eventually track down Send in The Subs in 192kbps, still hoping for a copy of it, I also grabbed a great VPRO session from that same person.

Maresn3st, Saturday, 19 October 2019 20:12 (three days ago) link


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