Robert Plant's Solo career: classic, dud, search, destroy, etc.

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Rolan Bolan....heh.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 15 May 2005 21:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I read the other day that Plant has sold over 20 million records from his solo career alone. wow!

Al (sitcom), Monday, 16 May 2005 00:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Heh, good on him, actually. Sure a lot of it was a coast on the Led Zep afterburn but you know, he really does deserve it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 May 2005 01:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I was sure this was revived in light of the nice reviews for the new one... anybody heard it?

An unmentioned song I still go back to: the beautiful synth ballad "Thru With The Two Step" from Principle of Moments. Man, I wish he'd locked into that sound/vibe and just stayed there....

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Monday, 16 May 2005 05:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Can't say the new album knocked me out particularly - yes I know Jah Wobble's on it, but if Plant had done an album with Wobble (and Keith Levene?) in 1979 now THERE would have been something. Pretty much the standard post-"Kashmir" world metal muzak plod AFAIC.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 16 May 2005 06:24 (eighteen years ago) link

(X-post) - Wouldn't "Zolan Bolan" have been more appropriate?

I like Robert Plant's first three records (the Robbie Blunt trilogy) a lot, and appreciate the effort on Plant's part to make them NOT sound like Zeppelin. Which would've been a mistake, considering how his voice has deteriorated over the years - couldn't hit the high notes anymore. His next few weren't very good at all, although sampling the Beastie Boys was a clever move. "Calling To You" and "Tie Die On The Highway" were pretty spacey. (Incidentally, what the heck was up with those ultra-arcane song titles, anyway? Were they dope-inspired? pulled at random out of a hat? i-ching toss-results? or just inside jokes? Dunno; but one of the few that made sense: "Mystery Title"!

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 16 May 2005 06:47 (eighteen years ago) link

The old wheeze can still startle. I caught "Darkness Darkness" on Classic VH-1 a few nights ago and – wow. What he's lost in range he's gained in gravitas and grit.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 16 May 2005 12:32 (eighteen years ago) link

appreciate the effort on Plant's part to make them NOT sound like Zeppelin.

He has since irritatingly renounced said efforts, alas.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 16 May 2005 13:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I was sure this was revived in light of the nice reviews for the new one...

Actually I didn't even know there was one!

I have to say I kinda regret not getting The Principle of Moments back when I heard "Big Log" and "In the Mood" on the radio in upstate New York -- both reasonably big hits and spun quite a bit. I was 12 then and had I picked up the album and really gotten into it, it would have been interesting to see how I viewed Led Zep and much else in retrospect.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 May 2005 13:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Get Dreamland! It's great.

Sundar (sundar), Monday, 16 May 2005 14:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Ned, I was the same age when I got that record and I think I might appreciate it now more than I did at that age (in the throes of Zeppelin geeking). There's some sophisticated pop on that one and on Shaken n' Stirred ('85) that probably rubbed a lot of his fans' ears the wrong way.

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Monday, 16 May 2005 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I listened to the new one over the weekend. Didn't knock me out--nice "textures" and the only songs I really liked were the old-fashioned Led Zep 3-style folky ones. But I do like his voice better now, actually.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 16 May 2005 19:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Dreadful album cover the new one has, though I dare say it's better than Fate of Nations.....which is sort've like saying it's better than a paper plate smeared with yak dung.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 16 May 2005 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Sundar, have you heard the new one? Is it as good as Dreamland?

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 16 May 2005 19:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Ha, yak dung. Yeah, it's Plant's solo records that are deserving of John Lydon's Zeppelin epithet, that just looking at one of their covers made him want to throw up.

I think Zeppelin's cover art is/was unfairly derided...most of it is really good. Obv. it was Page (the former art student), who was in charge of hiring Hipgnosis.

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 04:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Funny that PIL ended up doing Kashmir live - apparently Lydon gave Planty a call asking for the lyrics.

One of the Hipgnosis guys (most likely Storm Thorgerson) proposed artwork for Houses Of The Holy with a picture of a tennis match on the cover. When asked what it meant, he said "Don't you get it? Racket!" and that was the end of that.

Deluxe (Damian), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 10:45 (eighteen years ago) link

One of the Hipgnosis guys --- Peter Christopherson -- went onto join Throbbing Gristle/PTV/COIL. In fact, that's Cosey & Genesis getting naked and randy on the cover of UFO's Force It (shot for Hipgnosis by Christoherpson)

Funny that PIL ended up doing Kashmir live

I saw them do as their opening number on the Album tour....only the band played it before Lydon took the stage (releaving him of the burden of singing it).

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:07 (eighteen years ago) link

the only songs I really liked were the old-fashioned Led Zep 3-style folky ones

I can't belive how many times I've heard the latest single in the last six weeks; it's not something that would make me search out this album, but the one acoustic track I did hear was surprisingly good. How many songs on the album are like that?

Vic Funk, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:22 (eighteen years ago) link

three-four acoustic things, as I remember. Album does sound Plant's been checking out Jeff Buckley or something, not sure if I mean this as a compliment or not.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 12:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Album does sound Plant's been checking out Jeff Buckley or something, not sure if I mean this as a compliment or not.

Oh, the pumping irony.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 19:15 (eighteen years ago) link

"Checking out Jeff Buckley" when one is Robert Plant = looking at a smudged photocopy of yourself.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link

My point, Ned.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 19:29 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm glad we had this talk.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Any love for "Shaken 'n' Stirred"?

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 19:32 (eighteen years ago) link

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/078944951X.01._PIdp-schmoo2,TopRight,7,-26_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

100 Best Album Covers

If these are the 100 best, rock and roll is a very boring beast.

I recieved this book as a gift a few years ago, and man, is it pretentious and dull. Here is 2% of the list:
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000025NCI.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00004YS2O.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

That's right. Yer lookin' at TWO OF THE ONE-HUNDRED BEST ALBUM COVERS OF ALL TIME.

Some of the list is some of the hundred best, but there's a lot of stinkers in there, too. I would only suggest reading this at the bookstore while waiting for your mate to finish shopping.

(I would've put this on another thread, but A.) Storm Thorgerson's name has already been dropped in here like he was Candyman and B.) This is an Alex in NYC thread, so album cover talk shouldn't be discouraged.)

Take a wild guess which LZ cover they liked the best?

http://www.starland.com/sf-sc/sf01/images/Monolith/Monolith.jpg

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 19:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Any love for "Shaken 'n' Stirred"
Hip to Hoo. Kallalou Kallalou!

Funny that PIL ended up doing Kashmir live
Someone, somewhere HAS to have a copy of this...?

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 21:38 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Playing Walking Into Clarksdale right now much louder than I've ever played it before. It is now a much, much better album than I remember. "Most High" - daaaamn.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I quite like the new one, Mighty Rearranger, as well as the accompanying show.

Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Curious to hear it, actually.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 20:57 (eighteen years ago) link

It's good! I wasn't sure what to expect but it's not half bad at all. Yeah, as Edd and others mentioned upthread, there are a couple/three numbers that have the pleasant whiff of Zep III. And he doesn't embarass himself on the rockers. And the band (same as Dreamland, minus Thompson and one other) continues to be quite good. I don't think it's quite as good as Dreamland (nothing as moving/arresting as the "Song to the Siren" and "Hey Joe" covers), but it's a keeper. Nice little album. Even the drum and bass track sounds ok.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 18 July 2005 02:44 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...
On a whilm I bought Shaken 'n' Stirrled a few hours ago for dirt cheap...to call it strange would be an understatement. How does an album sound simultaneously dated (the keyb sound) and like nothing else (samples atop polyrhythms and weirdly textured guitar). Was he listening to Big Audio Dynamite?

I'll have more to write when I've absorbed it, but this proves that the man was NOT coasting (I checked this album's sales, just as a by-the-way; it's his lowest-selling '80s album, and the Zep fans didn't forgive him until he made Now & Zen.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 21:01 (eighteen years ago) link

*er, the title should say "Stirred."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link

"Too Loud" is great.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 22:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I have a strong affection for the first three Plant solo albums and really should hear these recent ones.

Zwan (miccio), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 22:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Was he listening to Big Audio Dynamite?

Not sure about BAD - quite possible, given the man's eclectic tastes. One of his main inspirations around this time was Peter Gabriel.

Deluxe (Damian), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 23:03 (eighteen years ago) link

A shame he largely abandoned this album's sound. Dreamland however is pretty great, especially "Darkness, Darkness."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 23:22 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
CUZ YOU'RE TOO LOUD TOO LOUD TOO LOUD!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 29 May 2006 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

three years pass...

a shame that there was no Youtube when i originally posted in this thread, about how 80s cheesy the video for "sea of love" is. here it is, in all of its Zorba-the-Greek/Frank-Zappa-lookalike-standing-around-a-xylophone-and-wearing-a-speedo glory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9-026ZCKR8

there can be only but steam that smells of shit and weaklingness (Eisbaer), Friday, 19 February 2010 05:27 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

hey so fate of nations is actually an outstanding fucking record just fyi

Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Friday, 2 April 2010 14:41 (fourteen years ago) link

I liked "29 Palms" at the time. There aren't many Plant solo moments I haven't enjoyed, actually.

yeah it's like even the ones that don't seem good at the time come to sound pretty awesome if you just set 'em aside to ripen

Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Friday, 2 April 2010 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Back in '06, Rhino boxed all his solo stuff; I reviewed it for the Voice. (Please ignore the clumsy placement of the parenthetical about Phil Collins; yes, I know he didn't drum for Led Zeppelin.)

http://www.villagevoice.com/2006-11-28/music/whole-lotta-universal-love/

neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Friday, 2 April 2010 15:14 (fourteen years ago) link

a "colonalist Paul Simon way"?!

Sorry – I know this ain't the Vampire Weekend thread.

need moar talking about how amazing his videos were --

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImpSyGTzot0

Stormy Davis, Saturday, 10 April 2010 08:46 (fourteen years ago) link

I am so in love with that 'In the Mood' vid

Stormy Davis, Saturday, 10 April 2010 08:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Did he ever say exactly why he dislikes those early solo records?

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Saturday, 10 April 2010 08:51 (fourteen years ago) link

*does* he dislike them? where did you ever get that impression?

Stormy Davis, Saturday, 10 April 2010 08:57 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

I may be under the spell of xhuxk's interview/review of Now & Zen, but so what: the album sounds great now.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 31 July 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link

I remember being a kid and hearing "In the Mood" and just feeling like it was so wonderfully from outer space. Classic for all time.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 31 July 2011 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

"Lighten up, baby, I'm in love with you!"

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 May 2021 09:33 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

you were pumping iron while i was pumping irony

mookieproof, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 03:11 (nine months ago) link

Heaven knows!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 03:13 (nine months ago) link


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