― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, 30 August 2004 05:44 (nineteen years ago) link
also yeah the marine girls are amazing.
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, 30 August 2004 05:46 (nineteen years ago) link
You're right. And that's kindof scary, now that I think about it.
LTM seemed to be an attempt to mix the jazzy vibe of Eden with the socialism of the whole Red Wedge thing and Johnny Marr's layered guitar sound.
I suppose you mean the second album Love Not Money? I've never heard that Johnny Marr played on that. I'm a Johnny Marr freak so I don't think it's possible to talk of the "Johnny Marr sound" unless you're talking about something he actually did because I think his sound is pretty unmistakeable and not easily copied. I mean, there are things I hear him do that I think "no way could that be anybody else but him".
"Eden" is one of my favourite albums of all time, if we ignore the fact that as an American I don't know it by that title, and the U.S. version had a slightly different tracklisting. Still, all the key songs are there. The second and third albums have their highlights, too, but proved far less memorable. I bought "Walking Wounded" when it came out. I liked a few songs a lot, then sold it. But I think that might have been because of a certain relationship I was in at the time.
― Bimble (bimble), Monday, 30 August 2004 06:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Bimble (bimble), Monday, 30 August 2004 06:50 (nineteen years ago) link
I remember liking a lot of 'Temperamental', esp. 'Lullaby of Clubland' and 'Hatfield 1980'. I love the city songs over the minimal focus of the production. nice stuff.
Could never get into 'Idlewild' or 'Baby, the Stars...', which I generally attribute to the busier production. I came to LOVE Tracey's voice on the gorgeously ungussied 'Amplified Heart', and hearing it reverbed, etc. throws me off. The last two albums are different beasts, but there's a close recording of her voice again, which goes a long way.
― derrick (derrick), Monday, 30 August 2004 07:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― darren (darren), Monday, 30 August 2004 17:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― briania (briania), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!st, Monday, 30 August 2004 18:26 (nineteen years ago) link
it's kind of amazing that they manage to turn cap'n beefheart's "my head is my only house unless it rains" into a normal EBTG song, but on the downside the result isn't necessarily much more than a normal EBTG song.
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 22 October 2004 19:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 22 October 2004 19:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 22 October 2004 19:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Friday, 22 October 2004 19:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Friday, 22 October 2004 20:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 22 October 2004 20:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Friday, 22 October 2004 20:34 (nineteen years ago) link
how is their "back to mine" volume?
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:34 (nineteen years ago) link
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― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― jon dale, Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― karl76 (karl76), Sunday, 24 October 2004 13:52 (nineteen years ago) link
more please.
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 9 April 2005 15:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 9 April 2005 15:34 (nineteen years ago) link
a friend used to joke that ben and tracey suffered from opposite maladies: her eyes were too close together and his were too far apart. but they are both so cool i really feel bad making any such comments.
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 9 April 2005 15:50 (nineteen years ago) link
Surely you jest!
Okay, maybe you don't. Here's Andrew in all his finery:
http://www.ultra-pop.org/images/band/som.jpg http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Basement/4286/Eldritch.GIF
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 9 April 2005 15:55 (nineteen years ago) link
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― gear (gear), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 07:54 (eighteen years ago) link
Having said that, I do find it a little annoying that they nowadays behave as if their entire pre-"Missing" career is not worthy of any attention. Idlewild is, as noted at the start of the thread, a fab album melodically and lyrically; only its slightly dated and thin-sounding production lets it down. But the band doesn't perform any early tracks in their concerts (not that they've given any in a while), and the more recent remix album (Adapt or Die) should have offered them a chance to revisit and update those early tracks. Instead, all the remixes were of Wounded and Tempermental songs. Frankly I'm hurt.
― brittle-lemon (brittle-lemon), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 09:09 (eighteen years ago) link
just pulled this out of my shelf and played it for the first time in a long while
this is a really nice lp (mini-lp?) that time seems to have forgot
in fact i don't think anything ebtg-associated is particularly hip right now, least of all the early stuff
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 16 June 2006 07:11 (seventeen years ago) link
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― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:18 (seventeen years ago) link
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― brittle-lemon (brittle-lemon), Friday, 16 June 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Friday, 16 June 2006 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 16 June 2006 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link
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― Erick H (Erick H), Friday, 16 June 2006 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― brittle-lemon (brittle-lemon), Friday, 16 June 2006 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― Fryin' Berry, Buck Cherry (Bimble...), Friday, 16 June 2006 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― dh (djh), Friday, 16 June 2006 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link
I flirted with them again when Walking Wounded came out.
I wish I could hear Baby The Stars Shine Bright again but I don't have the vinyl with me anymore. :(
Has anyone heard this song by Working Week (having at least one former members of Young Marble Giants) that had Tracey Thorn and Robert Wyatt singing on it called "Venceremos" something like that? Oh my GOD that is great.
― Fryin' Berry, Buck Cherry (Bimble...), Saturday, 17 June 2006 02:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― nicky lo-fi (nicky lo-fi), Saturday, 17 June 2006 04:44 (seventeen years ago) link
i think i am the only person who likes this record
ben watt's lazy dog mix cds are pretty great... haven't heard his more recent mix project, whose name escapes me...
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 17 June 2006 07:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 17 June 2006 10:33 (seventeen years ago) link
“Mirrorball” ftw
― calstars, Sunday, 30 April 2023 21:08 (eleven months ago) link
Might be of interest (Ben Watt's Private Passions on Radio 3):
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001l4jf
― djh, Sunday, 7 May 2023 20:12 (eleven months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NljK-sXaMtk
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 29 August 2023 21:38 (seven months ago) link