Search & Destroy: Flying Nun

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rage has played stacks of old FN clips in the past, can't remember if i've seen any Clean but i've definitely seen at least 4 Bats videos from up-to-and-including law of things era

the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 03:12 (nineteen years ago) link

flyinf nun is like the worst label in the world now. i used to live for the days when my fnun newsletter would show up in the mailbox. it's cool to see the gordons rocking out in their cardigan sweaters. shayne carter's awful sweater is a treat too.

keith m (keithmcl), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 03:14 (nineteen years ago) link

i wish instead of arsing about with reissues (also, where's the Bird-Dog reissue you bastards?!) they could spend a little more time signing better bands, for which Pan Am and the D4 don't qualify

the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 03:21 (nineteen years ago) link

i won't rabbit on about my love for the early nun material (im a huge fan), but don't write off all material that's on nun these days, sure they're a major, but the mint chicks debut ep is SUPERB.. PanAm suck sure, and Hassellhoff Experiment are no longer around (they were ok..), i really dig the D4 (who are a great bunch of guys, and don't deserve to be written off just because they're rock'n'roll), HDU have made some top-notch mogwai type stuff (i prefer them to mogwai, in fact), Betchadupa are a bit kid-bop, but are fun live and improve with every release (they're barely out of their teens)..

chris andrews (fraew), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 03:38 (nineteen years ago) link

i do like the mint chicks. i heard HDU's first release and didn't like it at all, have they changed significantly since then? it just seems such a shame that they sign so few new bands. is there really that little out there? for better or worse, FN still has the highest international profile of any NZ label

the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 03:49 (nineteen years ago) link

yes, they did a complete turnaround within a single EP (working with Dale Cotton on the HDU++ remix ep), really its VERY good stuff.. even if the 'being junkies lines are true..

chris andrews (fraew), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 03:53 (nineteen years ago) link

essentially the best stuff at the moment is self-released or through small start-ups, though Arc Life was wonderful for a few years (Mike Hex - who helped run the label, also of Noseflute fame and the amazing bands Squirm, Whitey Hiss, Hiss Explosion etc etc died earlier in the year)

chris andrews (fraew), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 03:54 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, Higher++, Memento Mori & Fire Works (despite unhelpful sequencing) are v.different & much improved from earlier stuff. my DJ name was gonna be Heroin Dependency Unit, hur hur hur.

haha thee Nun have been pursuing a few bands who would rather remain independent (& considering that's happened to the Munt Chux, I'm not surprised).

etc, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 04:12 (nineteen years ago) link

what happened to em?

the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 04:15 (nineteen years ago) link

hey what do you mean?, they're doing ok - had a bit of exposure in england, been touring like little monkeys. They're a damn tight band, though i'd rather not comment on their manager [he pulled them out of a gig i was booking / promoting]

chris andrews (fraew), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 04:18 (nineteen years ago) link

j0hn b4ker (& jul14n) can eat my fuc. they were having some issues w/ when/where they could play, the whole having to sit on new material (the ant1-t1ger EP, etc); & they've been forced to jump through a few hoops that . . . hmmmn. & I'm vaguely wondering if they're not as good now as they were four-five months ago, tho that could be burnout.

at least they're not the ch3cks, haha.

etc, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 04:22 (nineteen years ago) link

(um chris, is the recent news/rumour about n1ck & the sh0cking p1nks "lineup" true?)

etc, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 04:24 (nineteen years ago) link

which part?, gimme an email and i'll fill you in on all the details

chris andrews (fraew), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 04:41 (nineteen years ago) link

in another bizarre coincidence, n1ck's just emailed me. thanx for the offer, though.

etc, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 05:30 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...
no more commentary on that dvd? it's great for the first hour/half, then trails off. witness the demise... with hdu as great last gasp (everyone overlooks "sum of the few" which was a BRILLIANT record imho and i am sad that my copy has disappeared; does someone want to burn it for me - it's out of print)
d.kilgour had great 60s-dylan hair in the clean video. shayne carter sports bad 80s mullets. it was very nice to see wayne elsey (rip). why were there no puddle videos?

jwd, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 12:51 (nineteen years ago) link

what is the video for dave the pimp like? a song about a mercenary who has invited girls to stick their hands in his pockets only he's taken the pockets out of his pants. i thought king loser's '76 comeback' was supposed to be the best video ever, how come it's not on there? i've never seen it.

keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 01:08 (nineteen years ago) link

a 2nd edition is due out next month. hopefully with better selections..

oh and according to reliable sources, the toy love double cd IS a reality, and will be out soon with pretty much everything you could ever wish for concerning the band..

chris andrews (fraew), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 01:42 (nineteen years ago) link

"dave the pimp" has a great moment where graeme jefferies, in the midst of lipsyncing, bursts into gales of laughter. it's good.

jwd, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 02:13 (nineteen years ago) link

i love the wee interview bits with LBGP and the doublehappys vid.. but bring on the lesser seen videos!, according to bob scott the clean made 7 music vids all up, and of course theres affco, the scorched earth policy video, king loser, jpse and a ton of knox/tall dwarfs clips that NEVER see the light of day

chris andrews (fraew), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 02:37 (nineteen years ago) link

a skeptics video would be great. oh wait there is one on this dvd.

keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 03:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Woah .. a Toy Love 2cd set? YES!!

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 03:15 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
new dvd w/chris knox designed package.

1. The Clean - Beatnik
2. Bored Games - Happy Endings
3. Tall Dwarfs - Turning Brown & Torn In Two
4. Doublehappys - The Other's Way
5. Bill Direen - Alligator Song
6. Chris Knox - Half Man, Half Mole
7. Look Blue Go Purple - Circumspect Penelope
8. The Chills - I Love My Leather Jacket
9. The Bats - Made Up In Blue
10. Jean-Paul Sartre Experience - Flex
11. Scorched Earth Policy - Johnny Frog
12. This Kind Of Punishment - Immigration Song
13. Skeptics - AFFCO
14. Axemen - Wharf With No Name
15. Verlaines - Bird Dog
16. S.P.U.D. - Motorway (live at the Rising Sun)
17. The Terminals - Uncoffined
18. Drill - No Trouble
19. NRA - Glitch '90
20. Straitjacket Fits - Down In Splendour
21. Sneaky Feelings - Cry You Out Of My Eyes
22. 3Ds - Outer Space
23. Able Tasmans - Big Bang Theory
24. David Kilgour - No No No
25. Headless Chickens - George
26. Bailter Space - X
27. Pop Art Toasters - What Am I Going To Do?
28. Superette - Killer Clown
29. King Loser - '76 Come Back Special
30. Loves Ugly Children - Suck
31. Bressa Creeting Cake - Papa People
32. Bike - Welcome To My World
33. HDU - Lull dark restart (Soundproof remix)
34. The Hasselhoff Experiment - What's The Deal With The Man In Red?
35. Garageland - Feel Alright
36. Betchadupa - Bits
37. The Subliminals - United State
38. The D4 - Get Loose
39. PanAm - Japanese Girls
40. The Mint Chicks - Blue Team Go!

etc, Saturday, 6 November 2004 02:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Axemen! Bill Direen! Scorched Earth Policy & the Terminals! This Kind Of Punishment! wtf NRA & Drill! I think that Hasselhoff Experiment vid was one of the first instances of the Back Of The Y crew making something (also, Bad Santa, &c). finally "AFFCO" & "Beatnik"!

STILL the wrong JPSE video! tho "Flex" IS my favourite JPSE track*; hope the video's ok.

*the Straitjacket Fits cover of this (off Roger Sings The Hits is pretty great as well - anyone want me to gmail it to them?

etc, Saturday, 6 November 2004 03:03 (nineteen years ago) link

destroy the mint chicks. now. please please please.

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Saturday, 6 November 2004 03:22 (nineteen years ago) link

STILL the wrong JPSE video! tho "Flex" IS my favourite JPSE track*; hope the video's ok.

It's great! And I'm very glad this is out because I was annoyed that the first DVD was missing a lot of tracks on it like, indeed, "Flex."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 6 November 2004 03:27 (nineteen years ago) link

'the other's way' is becoming the most covered flying nun track.
love's uglu children's first single and ep had a lot of promise thent hey turned into a run of the mill 'punk' band, lost all of the swirl and menace.

keith m (keithmcl), Saturday, 6 November 2004 13:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Search Goblin Mix, the Exploding Budgies, Chug "Flowers"

Jeremy (Jeremy), Saturday, 6 November 2004 14:51 (nineteen years ago) link

'the other's way' is becoming the most covered flying nun track.
love's uglu children's first single and ep had a lot of promise thent hey turned into a run of the mill 'punk' band, lost all of the swirl and menace.

-- keith m (keythkeyt...), November 6th, 2004.

it was all paul reid's fault!

nah prolly not.. but simon's been making good music since though. i dug the subliminals and sleepers union, though i dunno what he's gonna do now.. last time i talked to him he mentioned the possibility of doing another band with brendan moran (the subliminals / hassellhoff experiment), and was performing with dale cotton (conray)

chris andrews (fraew), Saturday, 6 November 2004 22:25 (nineteen years ago) link

four years pass...

electrodribble tribute to flying nun

http://www.morrmusic.com/artist/Various%20Artists/release/118

lolsdale street (electricsound), Sunday, 10 May 2009 11:06 (fourteen years ago) link

that comp is pretty dire.

keythkeythkeyth, Sunday, 10 May 2009 13:58 (fourteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Flying Nun Founder Regains Control Of Label

This is pretty good news, yes?

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Wednesday, 23 December 2009 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Hopefully, yes! Apparently with full control just using Warners for distro, tho there have been other reports saying Warners have some sort of other stake in it. Should clear the way for a nice reissuing project too (hopefully we'll get some vinyl)

Bill E, Wednesday, 23 December 2009 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link

The letter 5 'the lost years'

keythhtyek, Wednesday, 23 December 2009 23:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Woohoo! Open the vaults and flood the market with wonderful kiwi jangle/electro/general weirdness!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 24 December 2009 00:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Getting handed back the reins to an independent music company must be a bit of a poison chalice these days

badg, Thursday, 24 December 2009 00:27 (fourteen years ago) link

yes and no. the brand still has value, despite all efforts to destroy it over the last fifteen years

happy christmas your ass (electricsound), Thursday, 24 December 2009 00:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Great Christmas present this news. Seems weird for this to be happening with Chris Knox still out of action.

Anyone seen the reformed 3d's? Playing a few gigs in Jan/Feb and have already played the Merge show in the U.S How were they?

Hinklepicker, Saturday, 26 December 2009 05:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Martin Phillipps has already expressed his hope that the Chills' back catalogue will now, finally, be properly reissued ...

ithappens, Monday, 28 December 2009 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link

and if it isn't at least he can add roger shepherd to his list of mythical bogeymen that have held him back although really, roger shepherd is probably already on that list. i don't think this means much unless he knows better rocks to look under in new zealand for new and interesting artists/groups. releasing mediocre/awful end of career records by once great bands like the clean and the chills and the verlaines doesn't find me inspired.

keythhtyek, Monday, 28 December 2009 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link

^that, basically

tacoma chameleon (electricsound), Monday, 28 December 2009 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link

I've always wanted to see a collection that was a box of cd-5s of all the great FN 12" EPs. Bored Games, Scorched Earth Policy, Bats, Max Block, and so on. Perfect repros in 5" cardboard sleeves. Orange, Alpaca Brothers, Children's Hour. There were a lot, of course. Don't know if that could make any money, though. Maybe they'll do vinyl now.

Michael Train, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 02:51 (fourteen years ago) link

@NT: I've also wanted to see a collection of the early EPs (and singles, too). Sadly, though, I think that it's just too late for physical media. The most that we can probably hope for is that every single FN release (inc. Roger Sings the Hits!) will be available digitally in all territories. I just don't think there are enough paying fans out there to support the CD release of the obscure stuff. (Or even of big albums like Bird-Dog, for that matter.) I mean, 2000 copies of the FN box were pressed and it's still in print three years later. Not a good sign.

goldwax, Friday, 1 January 2010 17:47 (fourteen years ago) link

FN box, as great as it is, is overpriced by about 50%. Nevertheless, your point is a valid one and I'm coming to terms with digital-only releases overtaking physical releases within the first few years of this decade for me.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 1 January 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link

i have no problem with the idea of digital-only reissues. 4AD did something similar with their first couple of years if 45s - these are only available digitally but sound great, very cool thing for them to do

avocado constant (electricsound), Saturday, 2 January 2010 00:17 (fourteen years ago) link

flying nun was always pretty good at reissuing or compiling things anyhow, they didn't seem to have that 'you had to be there' attitude of say Sarah Records.

keythhtyek, Saturday, 2 January 2010 00:27 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

First thing out supposedly a 3D's Boxset. They play quite a few shows this month in NZ. Can't wait.

Hinklepicker, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 08:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Wow wow wow!

dlp9001, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link

anyone know a NZ track which goes "why can't i get you...out of my heaaad" (or possibly hair)? male vocal

zvookster, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

More Nun videos up at NZ on Screen here: http://www.nzonscreen.com/watch/music-video/flying_nun

Bill E, Friday, 12 March 2010 03:06 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

So, what's going on with FN? No website, just a Twitter feed that doesn't says a lot but it doesn't make much sense to me.

goldwax, Sunday, 23 May 2010 06:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Hinklepicker square otm here, only non Compilation Anthology track I really love is Platypus, but Art School/Hold Onto the Rail omissions are unforgivable.

Odditties version of Thums Off is p great imo though.

chicken (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 11:12 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

I love "Some Fantasy" by DoubleHappys.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 6 November 2014 00:24 (nine years ago) link

three years pass...

So obviously not really Flying Nun, but there's no Toy Love specific thread so -- sad news to report about Jane Walker's passing:

https://www.facebook.com/AudioCultureNZ/photos/a.506398366094767/1934325256635397/?type=1&theater

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 October 2018 01:40 (five years ago) link


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