avant-garde, experimental, surreal film

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i agree with whoever said l'age d'or
the bit with the toes is so funny
much better than la chien andalou...

i thought the K foundation thing had been officially discredited now?

arthur woodlouse (arthur woodlouse), Friday, 16 May 2003 09:56 (twenty years ago) link

True Stories!

Matt (Matt), Friday, 16 May 2003 10:02 (twenty years ago) link

i thought the K foundation thing had been officially discredited now?

What do you mean by that? I heard Drummond & Cauty have destroyed all the existing copies of the film, but nothing about it being discredited.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 16 May 2003 10:14 (twenty years ago) link

i heard a rumour/read somewhere - sorry i cannot actually give you the facts because i havent got that kind of memory - that bill drummond had finally admitted it was a hoax

which surprises me. i kind of thought he had gone through with it. seemed like that kind of bloke from his writing. [naive fool that i am]

arthur woodlouse (arthur woodlouse), Friday, 16 May 2003 10:16 (twenty years ago) link

Weren't there a bunch of reporters there to witness it wasn't a hoax? You can see flashes of them in the film. Also, in the viewing I attended there was the guy who shot the film (KLF's roadie, apparently) speaking about it, and he sounded very honest. Of course that doesn't necessarily mean a thing.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 16 May 2003 10:26 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
Are there any DVD compilations of Maya Deren films?

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 2 October 2004 00:26 (nineteen years ago) link

more love for institue benjamenta here.

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 2 October 2004 00:38 (nineteen years ago) link

i wish, miloauckerman!

every once in a while i check amazon..i don't know how to start a request or a waiting list for a release, so all i do is hope..


now, the only maya deren- related dvd out at this point is the excellent documentary "in the mirror with maya deren" on zeitgiest films.

reo, Saturday, 2 October 2004 00:49 (nineteen years ago) link

-The Saddest Music in the World
-Delicatessen
-Fando & Lis
-Decasia

reo, Saturday, 2 October 2004 01:05 (nineteen years ago) link

John Smith - anything, particularly Associations, Slow Glass, Shepherd's Delight, Girl Chewing Gum, or The Black Tower. Fuck it, just volume 1 of the anthology

George Landow - On the Marriage Broker Joke...

Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 3 October 2004 12:20 (nineteen years ago) link

i believe that suprn0va.0rg has" meshes in the afternoon" as a torrent

how about "Holy Mountain" by Jodorowsky

You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Sunday, 3 October 2004 12:48 (nineteen years ago) link

John Waters has got to be on this list.

# Hairspray (1988)
# Desperate Living (1977)
# Female Trouble (1974)
# Pink Flamingos (1972)
# Multiple Maniacs (1970)

EComplex (EComplex), Sunday, 3 October 2004 14:57 (nineteen years ago) link

"Holy Mountain" is the ONLY surrealist film you need to see. Esp. the part about the psychedelic shotguns.

Adam Bruneau (oliver8bit), Sunday, 3 October 2004 16:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The BFI disc of L'Age d'Or will have Un Chien Andalou on it

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 3 October 2004 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link

"I have conquered the Holy Mountain -- horizontally"

The Color of Pomegranates -Sergei Paradjanov

WR Mysteries of the Organism -Dusan Makavejev
Sweet Movie - Dusan Makavejev

(under no circumstances read _any_ plot summary of Sweet Movie before watching the film)

http://www.brightlightsfilm.com/33/makavejev.html

All Bunuel after 1960 is worth watching at least once, also don't miss El

(Jon L), Sunday, 3 October 2004 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.wayney.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/surreal.htm

found this site looking for a good link for Zulawski's film Possession. have seen about 75% of these, which bodes well for the ones I haven't.

(Jon L), Sunday, 3 October 2004 20:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Troll 2 (seriously).

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 3 October 2004 22:47 (nineteen years ago) link

all buñuel is watching, period (i haven't seen the two musicals he made when he got to mexico)

i thought this was the thread where one of the noize dudes threw a hissy fit because they thought i criticized a brakhage film, but i guess not

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 3 October 2004 22:49 (nineteen years ago) link

WORTH watching

(sorry)

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 3 October 2004 22:49 (nineteen years ago) link

the surrealist film page linked a couple of posts back is great (yay places to d/l Un Chien Andalou) but has the worst layout/navigation I've seen in a long time.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 3 October 2004 23:29 (nineteen years ago) link

The ICA imprint has some nice films (including Patrick Keiller's "London" and "Robinson In Space" - two of my all time favourites) but a lot of the really great stuff is still only available on PAL VHS.

Tous Les Garcons S'Appellent Little Lord Travolta (nordicskilla), Sunday, 3 October 2004 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

An Evening w/ Ernie Gehr at NYC MoMA tonight (there were still tix 2 hrs ago).

http://moma.org/calendar/films.php?id=6243

Dr Morbius, Monday, 29 October 2007 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Recent obits for Curtis Harrington refer to a series of early underground movies, including one, 'Wormwood Star', featuring the fabulous Marjorie Cameron from 'Inauguration of the Pleasure Dome'.

Anyone seen any of this?

Soukesian, Monday, 29 October 2007 20:30 (sixteen years ago) link

By next year, every expensive uptown arts venue that screens a-g film will be devoted entirely to Ernie Gehr.

C0L1N B..., Monday, 29 October 2007 23:03 (sixteen years ago) link

'Pleasure Dome' is fucking awesome! There's a collection of Kenneth Anger's films (vol. 1, more forthcoming I hope) on DVD now from Fantomas, I got it through Netflix. I liked all five of them on the DVD. Marjorie Cameron was the wife of Jack Parsons, crazy fucking world.

Abbott, Monday, 29 October 2007 23:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Chappaqua, anyone?

ian, Monday, 29 October 2007 23:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Anger v.2 is out.

Gehr was a funny little guy, talking about his friendship w/ Michael Snow: "Then he moved to Canada. And there was no email, it was the '60s! People were living in caves!"

Serene Velocity is hypnotic, for those who aren't susceptible to seizures... Side/Walk/Shuttle might be in my top 3 San Francisco films now.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 13:59 (sixteen years ago) link

pleasure dome is def. my favorite anger

impudent harlot, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 14:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Didn't Jack Parsons claim at one point that Marjorie Cameron wasn't actually human, that she was the magic(k)al result of a ritual that he and L Ron Hubbard had been working?

aldo, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 14:50 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

So, anyone want to talk about structural film? I know virtually nothing about it, but nevertheless assigned myself the task of writing about it.

On that note, I love how This video is a response to Global Swine Flu Cases Close To Pandemic Level

EDB, Saturday, 23 January 2010 02:01 (fourteen years ago) link

five months pass...

I'm kind of amazed at what's on Youtube sometimes. Nothing beats seeing an actual PRINT of the Lipsett though!

Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_avIZO8DoOs

Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link

fucking love arthur lipsett, even though he's been a big influence on george lucas / coppolla etc it is astounding to me that I made it to 2009 before hearing about him. bruce conner is cool and everything but where the hell were the prints of lipsett's films when I was in film studies 101?

I have a copy of this and I even listen to it: http://www.discogs.com/Arthur-Lipsett-Arthur-Lipsett-Soundtracks/release/792458

http://www.diagonalthoughts.com/?p=64

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link

I have the Lipsett soundtracks too!

Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link

we're pretty much legion

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Woah love the split frame in that last one.

Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh man, I love that Martin Arnold, I haven't been able to see it since we watched a 16mm print in my sophomore year of college.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link

this has been boggling me lately:

http://thesoundofeye.blogspot.com/

bug holocaust (sleeve), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link

ha I see they took down the Ira Cohen film that was reissued by Arthur...

has arlen specter never heard clarence thomas's laugh? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm pleased da intawebs has somewhat put pay to the "harder core than thou" aspect of fanboyism that has historically plagued the appreciation of "such" film. i think there's much experimental which doesn't evoke any feeling of "magic" - fair enough - the "real", scabrous, harsh & unforgiving in a situationist / docu style has it's place. but i will say in defence of the magical to check at your leisure fellini's "satyricon" & "casanova" & power rangers lost galaxy "return of the magna defender" i do not joke here.
can you help me tho, i wonder? i'm looking for an old film i thought was either man ray or duchamp (might not be): something like " poeme cinematique " or similar title - very art deco surrealist i think perhaps concentrating on NY or Paris architecture, shadows, the play of light on water etc any ideas? vielen dank !

igloo ferrigno (bob snoom), Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Ballet Mecanique?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SgsqmQJAq0

Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Thursday, 1 July 2010 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I have more vivid memories of reading Richard Roud's Straub book than the films themselves, intriguing though they were.
I should get around to watching Sicilia!, which James Quant of TIFF was always talking up.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 21 November 2022 03:56 (one year ago) link

nine months pass...

couple of days left to catch two, imo, unmissable online retrospectives of female experiemntal filmmakers:

ellie epp on ultra dogme: https://ultradogme.com/2023/08/18/ellie-epp/

jun kurosawa on equinox: https://equinox.film

devvvine, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 12:24 (seven months ago) link

👍

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 12:55 (seven months ago) link


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