Should I buy an Apple laptop?

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Macs are worthless toys, but they're better than PCs.

Dave Fischer, Saturday, 16 November 2002 02:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

Both the 12" and the 14.1" screens only go as high as 1024x768, so 'usefulness' isn't really the question (ie. you'll still be able to fit the same amount on each screen). I wasn't crazy about the 12" screen at first (I had a 15" on my old laptop) but I must admit, there's something about the machine's compact design that's almost perversely appealing.

Sean C! Glad you saw this thread; I obv. took yr advice re: the iBooks and took the plunge. So far, I'm pretty happy I did (although I'm holding off on a full thumbs up until I get another 512 megs of ram, hopefully soon...)

mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 16 November 2002 04:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

hmm...I'm a PC person, but then, a good chunk of that is habit and convenience, I don't know how to access things quickly in the Mac OS.. Plus the academic dept where I'm doing a little web maintenance has a couple of iMacs and I had both of them crash the same morning, which was frustrating, and so far the simplest tasks have caused me major headaches.
I've got a new IBM Thinkpad & couldn't be happier with it so far, sturdy, fast enough for what I do right now (a little web dev, and classwork).. let's see how it goes once I load up Photoshop. When I was shopping around, I was hearing bad things abt Compaq/HP in particular, that they just didn't make quality hardware anymore.

daria g, Saturday, 16 November 2002 05:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

five months pass...
Is this worth buying:

iBook: P92, 600 Mhz, 12.1", 128 MB, 20 GB, Combo Drive (DVD-CDRW), Internal Modem -

£475?

Cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 11 May 2003 13:31 (twenty years ago) link

I know nothing about apples.

but I could still say that that's mem. is too lo.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 11 May 2003 13:33 (twenty years ago) link

oh, but someone was saying mem. was cheap and easy to fit even in their laptops.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 11 May 2003 13:34 (twenty years ago) link

But you can't just pop an Apple open and smack some more memory in, can you? Or are their laptops more scalable?

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 11 May 2003 13:55 (twenty years ago) link

That sounds like a very good deal, Cozen.

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 11 May 2003 13:55 (twenty years ago) link

(Thanks N., I thought so, it's a reconditioned model supplied by a relation who is an Apple Insider).

I should take it and add some (cheap?) memory (easily?)?

Cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 11 May 2003 14:05 (twenty years ago) link


But you can't just pop an Apple open and smack some more memory in

Yes, you can. If I can do it, anyone can - Cozen you should get it.

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Sunday, 11 May 2003 14:13 (twenty years ago) link

Score, I'm swayed. Now all I need is the delivery of my iPod, the UEFA Cup and the Scottish Premiership title and I'll be super happy.

Cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 11 May 2003 14:16 (twenty years ago) link

Cozen, how did you win an iPod? I am jealous.

Nicole (Nicole), Sunday, 11 May 2003 14:18 (twenty years ago) link

Yes, not that I don't think you deserve it - is it one of the new ones?

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Sunday, 11 May 2003 14:19 (twenty years ago) link

Be very careful buying 'bargain' powerbooks etc on Ebay - there are a lot of scams around, usually involving payment by money order... the fraudsters hack legit accounts with good feedback. I was tempted by a 17" for $1500 and did some research. See for example:

http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~christi/cattery/second-golden-age.html

voice of reason, Saturday, 24 May 2003 15:48 (twenty years ago) link

Be very careful buying 'bargain' powerbooks etc on Ebay - there are a lot of scams around, usually involving payment by money order... the fraudsters hack legit accounts with good feedback. I was tempted by a 17" Powerbook for $1500 and did some research. See for example:

http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~christi/cattery/second-golden-age.html

voice of reason, Saturday, 24 May 2003 15:49 (twenty years ago) link

sorry for the double submit. I realised I needed to say a 17" what. I thought you might think I meant a cinema display or something, but obviously it looks much funnier than that...

voice of unreason, Saturday, 24 May 2003 15:51 (twenty years ago) link

You never know if you're going to get ripped off, I suppose, but I got my PowerBook on eBay, and payed by money order. I got a beautiful laptop, carefully packaged, and loaded with software; couldn't be happier.

Sean (Sean), Saturday, 24 May 2003 15:56 (twenty years ago) link

I want a new computer so bad. The one I have is a dinosaur. My boyfriend says he is oging to build me one but I don't think he could build anything that would work.

blanca, Saturday, 24 May 2003 22:57 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...
Is anyone else's iBook really scuffed up round the plastic inner casing, like light scores and scratches just caused by carrying it around and general use? Also, what is an effective way to clean the white resin outer casing, the smudges seem permanent to me? And, finally, how to clean the screen (other than a 'lint free tissue') as it seems to always have these faint kinda 'burn' marks (not burn marks so much as touch marks)?

David. (Cozen), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 16:22 (twenty years ago) link

iBooks get scratched up. This is what happens and as far as I know there's little you can do about it. You can get a little piece of fabric-type stuff to put on your keyboard so it doesn't leave those keyboard marks on your screen.

My iBook is in the shop AGAIN. It keeps blowing through logic circuits like so many M&Ms. I am hoping Apple will just replace the computer at this point, but we'll see.

Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 16:28 (twenty years ago) link

Where do I get the fabric-type stuff, Chris?

I don't mind it getting scuffed up, I mean I bought it so I could use it as a laptop (out and about &c.) it just ruins the overall prettiness.

What is 'blowing through logic circuits' and should I worry or is it that-computer specific?

David. (Cozen), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 16:33 (twenty years ago) link

The logic board thing is something that happens to some iBooks but apparently not most. But apparently it does happen to mine. It just means it freezes up a lot and I have to take it to the shop to get repaired.

You can get the fabric things at computer stores. I am not sure what they are called, but if you ask for a laptop screen protector fabric thingy doo, they might have it. I don't have one, since the keyboard marks seem easy to clean off. But my bf has one, because he is fussy.

One of my friends wraps her iBook in a scarf but her computer is still getting all scratched up so ah well!

Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 16:38 (twenty years ago) link

Rah Apple!
-overall cost is lower
-more is included in initial cost, no nickel and diming for audio/video cards etc
-less susecptibility to viruses
-more sophisticated networking capabilities
-it's more fun
-it's faster better and faster and better

Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 03:27 (twenty years ago) link

I don't know if you can really just say "overall cost is lower"...

s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 03:28 (twenty years ago) link

What about getting one of those laptop "wetsuits"-- little cases made of neoprene that fasten to the laptop with elastic at the corners? Then they zip around the edges to close them, and have little handles. Apparently they're quite good at providing scratch protection & light cushioning in bags. Also rubbing alcohol seems to work really well on most marks I've gotten on my case.

lyra (lyra), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 03:45 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...
Just got the 15" Powerbook a week ago today. (My first Mac.)

So awesome! I can't wait until I dig its teeth into my high-end video stuff in a few months. I'm never going back to Windows. I may go to a *nix one day, but never back to MS.

Just wondering, though, are there any good programs for some simple WYSIWYG HTML? I don't need anything as mighty as Dreamweaver, however.

Girolamo Savonarola, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 20:03 (twenty years ago) link

What is Dreamweaver?!

raphael diligent (Cozen), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 20:47 (twenty years ago) link

I bought Airport (£20!!!) and am getting Panther pretty soon. All I need now is Reason, Fruityloops and Ableton Live.

raphael diligent (Cozen), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 20:47 (twenty years ago) link

What is Dreamweaver?!

Girolamo Savonarola, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 22:02 (twenty years ago) link

four years pass...

So... my old Powerbook G4 which I purchased in 2002 (I think) is finally on its last legs. The disk drive doesn't work and one of the hinges broke this weekend. While I can still use it, it has lost much of its functionality.
I'm thinking of buying a new MacBook but I'm wondering if there's any reason to believe that the prices on them will drop in the next few weeks/months?
Advice/suggestions?

wmlynch, Thursday, 14 February 2008 05:26 (sixteen years ago) link

(Blimey, toby's undergone a conversion) since 2002)

You might check the mac buyers guide:

http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#MacBook

Bob Six, Thursday, 14 February 2008 07:35 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Should I get a MacBook Air? Does anyone have one here?

youn, Saturday, 26 April 2008 16:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Problem with macbook air is its just too big and too expensive for a secondary/travel laptop

water, Saturday, 26 April 2008 16:18 (sixteen years ago) link

um, are you really willing to pay an extra $799 dollars so that your computer can be slightly (.32") thinner than the macbook? have you ever complained about the thickness of your laptop? because if not, than you might as well save your money.

remy bean, Saturday, 26 April 2008 16:22 (sixteen years ago) link

manufactured demand say what

remy bean, Saturday, 26 April 2008 16:22 (sixteen years ago) link

but what if you are very weak?

youn, Saturday, 26 April 2008 16:25 (sixteen years ago) link

maybe you should get a desktop so you won't have to strain yourself carrying it around

dan m, Saturday, 26 April 2008 16:27 (sixteen years ago) link

or do squats with the extra two pounds of macbook weight over your head to build up your muscles

remy bean, Saturday, 26 April 2008 16:30 (sixteen years ago) link

three vs five pound barbell weight makes a big difference, you know.

youn, Saturday, 26 April 2008 16:35 (sixteen years ago) link

macbook air - the first laptop for women and small children

youn, Saturday, 26 April 2008 16:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I cannot believe how overpriced the mac laptops are at the moment (not just the Air). When I bought my MB Pro 2 years ago it seemed a bit expensive but now you can get an equivalent laptop for about half of what Apple are charging. It seems to be the only reason to buy one is if you are a designer or something and absolutely require mac os.

tpp, Saturday, 26 April 2008 18:41 (sixteen years ago) link

equivalent

designer or something

absolutely require mac os

libcrypt, Sunday, 27 April 2008 00:15 (sixteen years ago) link

In which case, stay the fuck home and get a desktop machine.

Rock Hardy, Sunday, 27 April 2008 00:45 (sixteen years ago) link

t seems to be the only reason to buy one is if you are a designer or something and absolutely require mac os.

i agree they are overpriced but apple laptops have always been. if you do web development and require a unix installation though having one is nice, that way you don't have to deal with some annoying linux package.

akm, Sunday, 27 April 2008 18:31 (sixteen years ago) link

os x is a fucking miracle compared with other operating systems, is the reason to get one

although have people now booted os x onto all manner of intel boxen? i would imagine they have

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 27 April 2008 20:23 (sixteen years ago) link

i can't get past the NO CD DRIVE thing, with the macbook Air.

Surmounter, Sunday, 27 April 2008 20:25 (sixteen years ago) link

although have people now booted os x onto all manner of intel boxen? i would imagine they have

has this happened? I didn't think so

akm, Sunday, 27 April 2008 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link

are you saying its easy to install unix on a mac? i read reviews and the consensus seems to be that getting a macbook is the better option.

youn, Sunday, 27 April 2008 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Mac OS X is Unix

Ed, Sunday, 27 April 2008 20:59 (sixteen years ago) link

I’d plug in headphones to see if it’s a software generated sound. If not, the only moving part would be a cooling fan, which may be gunked with dust.
My MacBook generates a quiet hiss when it turns on speakers to put out a sound - only audible in quiet environments, and lingers a couple of seconds after the sound.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 07:03 (five years ago) link

i'll try that. this has the definite profile of an EVENT of some sort, but as far as i know i have done nothing that would have caused it to start happening. uncanny!!

j., Wednesday, 28 November 2018 07:07 (five years ago) link

i read a neat trick to grep fs_usage's output for 'aiff' to catch accesses to the system sounds' files, which unfortunately does not catch even other UI sound effects like trash-emptying, let alone whatever this is. but maybe i'll be able to spy something happening in the console if i'm ever paying enough attention when the sound happens again.

j., Wednesday, 28 November 2018 10:21 (five years ago) link


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