Depression and what it's really like

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does it have fun bleepy music with whooshy-whirry sounds?

^ enlightening post (sarahell), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 02:09 (ten years ago) link

Ooh, that looks a decent concept at least. My GP and counsellor are trying to encourage me (unsuccessfully thus far) into doing some meaningful activity with my day rather than sitting around the house in my pyjamas talking shite on the internet, so maybe the game idea will spur me into actually doing it for myself? I'm terrible at routine, and love wasting time on stupid games, so turning my life into one sounds ideal.

ailsa, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 02:13 (ten years ago) link

it is admittedly fun for me trying to figure out how to balance it, i just haven't been able to yet -- i've not structured it so i'm in any real danger of "dying" or not having enough coins for my rewards, which aren't really that enticing anyway

if i were less depressed maybe (loooool) it could be a quality way to find (like literally determine) structure and balance in my life and also make "actually doing things" more tangible and accessible, but i'm worried that if i arranged it to 'force' me to do the new things i want/need to do in the back of my head and stop doing the things i shouldn't be doing until i've earned them, i'd just go fuck it and bail

my whole family is catholic so look at the pickle i'm in (zachlyon), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 02:14 (ten years ago) link

ailsa, you sorta have to give into it -- which is a good thing (cause it's still YOU in control, it's just there to help) and a bad thing (cause it's still on you to follow through). imo the actual in-game stuff (buying swords and shit) isn't interesting or worthwhile, but maybe you'd be different. i also haven't messed with a lot of that stuff so i don't really know what i'm talking about.

you have some manner of control over the mechanics but it mostly determines reward/punishment based on how often you do a thing, so the more often you do something the less you get for it, and if you keep missing out on your dailies your health goes down exponentially. not sure how useful it'd be for doing just one thing as opposed to a bunch of things. but hey, now i floss. except when i don't want to. not much of a loss rn.

this all must sound v nerdy if you don't know what i'm talking about

my whole family is catholic so look at the pickle i'm in (zachlyon), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 02:22 (ten years ago) link

i'm a second level cleric with 7 hp

the late great, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 02:24 (ten years ago) link

I think I get it, and I might try it. What's the worst that could happen, right?

ailsa, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 02:42 (ten years ago) link

now dont be like that

gelatinate mess (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 02:47 (ten years ago) link

"What is the source of the anxiety?"

just this hideous sticky feeling in my mouth that's been lasting for days. i have problems with the inside of my mouth which leaves large sections of it permanently sticky, sore and dried out, but it's not dry mouth. this has spread, thanks to a period of stress around new year, to my throat, tongue and uvula, so I permanently feel like I'm about to throw up, have a harsh cough, raw throat, feels like my uvula is constantly sticking to my tongue. add to that chronic pain elsewhere and you have one very miserable and frantic AM.

aisla and zachlyon, i hope you feel more positive soon. i whinge a lot, but i'm hoping to be there for others as well. best wishes to everyone in this thread.

president of the people's republic of antarctica (Arctic Mindbath), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 04:10 (ten years ago) link

drink lots of hot tea

the late great, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 04:51 (ten years ago) link

thanks late great. I picked up a bottle of medicated mouth & throat relief today, so I'm praying that works for me. The fact that my uvula keeps sticking to my tongue is driving me utterly round the bend.

Today I think I will stay in bed and try to relax, which will be easy considering my cat has decided to flop over my right leg and trap me here.

president of the people's republic of antarctica (Arctic Mindbath), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 13:38 (ten years ago) link

the late great, thanks for the worksheet!

mh, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 15:37 (ten years ago) link

Honey is my answer for everything tbh. Not to be all woo-woo but I believe honey is really good for wound care--anti-septic and moistening and soothing.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 15:44 (ten years ago) link

It's either that or aloe, and I definitely don't want to eat aloe gel.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 15:45 (ten years ago) link

mmm delicious aloe drinks

mh, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 15:46 (ten years ago) link

http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/poverty-matters/2014/jan/01/surgihoney-treatment-infected-wounds

IANAD or a med student even but here u go. Start gumming some nice honey and feel better soon!

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 15:47 (ten years ago) link

It's been hard for me to admit it to myself but I'm depressed again. I'm not very skilled at noticing my own moods and emotions until they get really bad, and around Xmas time I started to notice it. Was considering going back to therapy, but it seemed kind of shameful to do so, which is somewhat hypocritical of me because I was unashamed when I was going to therapy, and I've encouraged several friends to try therapy. Logically I knew I should go back if I need the help, but emotionally it felt like regression.

Any thoughts about myself fell away when my father passed away unexpectedly a few days after Xmas. Thankfully we have a lot of friends and family who were able to help us get through things, but because he died abroad, there were a lot more complications and it required my mom, brother, and I to take an emergency trip to India. I didn't get too many moments to think until we got home about two weeks after his death. Even now, we're still dealing with some logistical things, but the whole experience has forced me to look at myself and realize that I'm still depressed, and was so even before he died. I'm gonna be starting therapy again, with the same therapist who helped me two years ago, but it's different than the last time. Previously we were working on my social anxiety, which I thought at that time was the cause of my depression. But the depressed feelings I've been having the past month or so aren't caused by anxiety, I don't think. We're gonna be delving into uncharted waters, which is scary for me. It's harder to find hope that things will be ok, but with my therapist's help I mostly overcame the social anxiety, so maybe we can do this too.

Anyway, I just needed to vent and make my own thoughts clear to myself. This year has been fucking awful. I've talked about a lot of this with close friends, but it's hard to be 100% honest with them.

Vinnie, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 15:52 (ten years ago) link

is it bad that i don't feel as if i can confront my brother about his alcoholism?

Chris, Thursday, 23 January 2014 19:41 (ten years ago) link

depends what you mean by "bad"

the late great, Thursday, 23 January 2014 19:44 (ten years ago) link

@Chris: Well people train for some time to be professional alcohol counsellors so you shouldn't feel as if you have to just know how to do that?

cardamon, Saturday, 25 January 2014 02:31 (ten years ago) link

Him being your brother probably makes it harder. So no, you shouldn't feel bad at all (in my opinion).

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 17:39 (ten years ago) link

Chris, it would most likely be a pointless, if not damaging, exercise anyway.

mean-spirited schadenfreude-loving spewer of sleaze (sunny successor), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 17:50 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Feel like I need to talk to a doctor about going back on anti-depressants, and probably maybe also a therapist, but also feel like a) don't want to go through the humiliating and expensive experience of looking for a therapist and b) might be at that point where anti-depressants might just motivate me enough to hurt myself somehow.

I hate my fucking life.

Ian from Etobicoke (Phil D.), Thursday, 13 February 2014 15:42 (ten years ago) link

So I am LESS lachrymal after months of taking antidepressants again but I have this near-constant message from my brain "kill yourself kill yourself" D:
but just now realized it is maybe a medication side effect?? is this a thing?

lord of the files (Crabbits), Saturday, 22 February 2014 16:14 (ten years ago) link

Sorry TO BE REAL

lord of the files (Crabbits), Saturday, 22 February 2014 16:14 (ten years ago) link

poor fucking ilx only hears from me when it's breaking point to twell someone what a sad saddo I am

lord of the files (Crabbits), Saturday, 22 February 2014 16:15 (ten years ago) link

Dude that really sounds like med side.effects - go see yr dr asap

just1n3, Saturday, 22 February 2014 16:17 (ten years ago) link

that sounds like a good idea, first thing.

j., Saturday, 22 February 2014 16:20 (ten years ago) link

agree, that's not the sort of side effect you should have to endure in order to be less lachrymal.

we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Saturday, 22 February 2014 16:23 (ten years ago) link

for real Crabs, for real. getting on/back on/new meds will have this kind of effect sometimes, but if it's this bad definitely consider more options for meds. /hugs

Nhex, Saturday, 22 February 2014 17:47 (ten years ago) link

afaik, 'suicidal thoughts' is listed as a potential side effect from a lot of anti-depressants. It is very possible that's what's going on. Do seek medical advice, plz. Crabbits, you're an excellent human being and ilx has often seen your brilliant sense of humor. Take care of yourself.

Aimless, Saturday, 22 February 2014 19:08 (ten years ago) link

Hey Crabbs: 1. you are awesome 2. go and see yr doc

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 22 February 2014 19:33 (ten years ago) link

Does that voice/mental meme have persuasion to it or is it more of an imp of the perverse voice like yr brain tongueing at a sore tooth? Thinking of you crabbs pls take this to your prescriber...

grape is the flavor of my true love's hair (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 22 February 2014 20:00 (ten years ago) link

It's mostly just a distressing intrusive thought but worrying enough that I try to always have someone to hang out with or talk to on the phone, and the times I don't are when I get worried (eg this morning when I posted this)

lord of the files (Crabbits), Saturday, 22 February 2014 23:14 (ten years ago) link

ma'am you are a very important person in the world. please take care of yourself. signed, a fellow teacher who has dark moments.

rhyme heals all goons (m bison), Saturday, 22 February 2014 23:18 (ten years ago) link

calling my doc Monday fyi thanks everyone

lord of the files (Crabbits), Saturday, 22 February 2014 23:19 (ten years ago) link

took lexapro until it gave me suicidal thoughts, back in high school. it was definitely "intrusive thoughts", really literally, just like someone took my brain and spliced in images of my suicide at a random arbitrary point. i still get (non-suicidal) intrusive thoughts but never quite like that.

fun fact everyone i've ever known who has taken lexapro has had a really shitty time with it

i had a shitty time with it for several years! actually, i think the generic version has less-shitty side effects for me.

kilt by defrock (get bent), Sunday, 23 February 2014 08:16 (ten years ago) link

anyone have thoughts about celexa vs lexapro, or more accurately the generic versions therein

have a nice blood (mh), Sunday, 23 February 2014 17:22 (ten years ago) link

It's hard to use feedback on specific drugs from people, I think - unfortunately, until you try it, there's no way of telling how any drug is going to effect you. I had a couple years of bad times before finally figuring out that old Prozac did the trick.

Nhex, Sunday, 23 February 2014 18:30 (ten years ago) link

I've been on celexa/citalopram since last September and it's been awesome - I've haven't felt this normal in years, I have so much more energy, and I've had basically no side effects.

just1n3, Sunday, 23 February 2014 19:06 (ten years ago) link

So nice to hear a success story! (high fives just1n3)

Aimless, Sunday, 23 February 2014 19:07 (ten years ago) link

echo to just1ne but add like 7-10 years duration

quincie, Monday, 24 February 2014 01:43 (ten years ago) link

oh at some point there was a citalopram to escitalopram (celexa to lexapro) switch; same active molecule so nbd.

quincie, Monday, 24 February 2014 01:45 (ten years ago) link

do psychiatrists ever have evening hours? is that a thing?

death and darkness and other night kinda shit (crüt), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 01:00 (ten years ago) link

I don't really want to have to take time off work for this

death and darkness and other night kinda shit (crüt), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 01:01 (ten years ago) link

Yes! My standing appointment is at 5:30 but I know that she sees patients later than that as she's offered me an 8 o'clock before.

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 01:31 (ten years ago) link

Actually, I'm seeing her at 8 tomorrow night.

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 01:31 (ten years ago) link

psych i'm trying (desperately) to see basically works like 14 hour days and does nothing else

a commentary on self-absorbed youth culture in the social media age (zachlyon), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 02:41 (ten years ago) link

yeesh

death and darkness and other night kinda shit (crüt), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 02:48 (ten years ago) link

I need to get an appointment with a real therapist person who can help me. Please bump thread in two weeks if it's not already bumped to make sure I have figured that out.

have a nice blood (mh), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 02:53 (ten years ago) link


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