An Actual Warren Ellis C/D ILC Thread

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Let me be the one to say it: TRANSMETROPOLITAN has a moment or two, but is fundamentally bollocks.

rogermexico., Wednesday, 24 September 2008 17:05 (fifteen years ago) link

You might want to reread the thread there, rog.

David R., Wednesday, 24 September 2008 17:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I still think that my favorite Ellis thing is his Stormwatch run, followed closely by his Excalibur run (which is why, slow start aside, I have high hopes for his AXM run).

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link

WE's Excalibur run was part of that Counter-X business, right? Or was he on the book leading up to it?

David R., Wednesday, 24 September 2008 18:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Pretty sure his Excalibur run was well before the Counter-X stuff; in fact, I think it was the Excalibur run that led Marvel to let him do Counter-X.

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Hey my name is mud and I just discovered THE INTERNET:

In 1994, Warren Ellis assumed writing duties (issue #83) and, using his dark sense of humor, helped the book gain its own voice once again. Revisions made in his time on the book included reverting "Britannic" back to Captain Britain once more and adding Pete Wisdom, an often-obnoxious British spy, often considered Ellis’ alter ego, who could manifest solar energy, often in the form of 'hot knives' from his fingers. In a bold move, Ellis made Wisdom (an archetypical chain-smoking sarcastic obnoxious Englishman that Ellis writes into almost all his books) the romantic interest of the once young and innocent Shadowcat. At the insistence of Marvel editors, Ellis also added Wolfsbane (Rahne Sinclair), a Scottish werewolf-like young woman from the X-Men spin-off New Mutants and Colossus (Peter Rasputin), a Russian X-Man who could turn his flesh into “organic steel.”

Dan, if you're a fan of Pete Wisdom, you shd definitely check out the Wisdom MAX mini that came out a few years ago.

David R., Wednesday, 24 September 2008 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I might have that...? I dunno, if it didn't come out during one of my self-imposed comic book moratorium periods, I have it.

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 19:54 (fifteen years ago) link

It had 4 Skrulls posing as the Beatles, and Wisdom making time w/ a with-wings fairy.

David R., Wednesday, 24 September 2008 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Which is to say you'd probably remember it if you did read it.

David R., Wednesday, 24 September 2008 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link

haha okay I do not have that

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Planetary - I think some of the single issues are the best. The big storyline dealing with the Fourth Man is interesting, but I think some of the single issues are really amazing. As amazing as John Cassaday's artwork might be, I kind of wish that Ellis could have done a few more arcs in between with maybe some guest artists to fill in more back story dealing with Elijah Snow, but hey you get what you get and what you get is pretty strong.

Desolation Jones - I think this is my favorite series that Ellis has done. The main character is so damaged. Sad thing is that half way through the second arc which has this killer tie to Philip K. Dick, the series has gone dead letter office. Supposedly it might still get finished and I hope it does, as it was really cool.

Fell - What is cool about Richard Fell as a central character is that even though the situation is totally bleak, the character is a bit more optimistic than your usual Ellis protagonist. This book is also pretty funny at times.

Global Frequency - This is a cool mini-series. Every issue is a stand alone and I think should be given to all newer comic writers, as he packs alot of plot into every issue. I'd love for there to be a bunch more of this book. It also seems like a crossover between this and Planetary would make sense and be awesome if done.

Ocean - This is a scifi action movie mini series with really nice artwork. There are a couple of really amazing scenes in this book.

Red - This the best of all of the short mini-series that Ellis did for Wildstorm in a couple of year period. The story is simple enough, it is pretty much a bad ass evil retired ex-CIA agent gets reactivated and the sXXt hits the fan.

Mek - This one has some interesting ideas, but I did not really like the artwork. Some of the themes of this book are being explored again in Doktor Sleepless.

Strange Kiss- I didn't really care for this one. It was kind of ugly, but not interesting. I haven't really followed up on any of the other Gravel series.

Doktor Sleepless - This book covers similar ideas from Transmetropolitan and other series. It is a slow dense read for a comic, but things are starting to tie together in interesting ways. It is not an 'action' book, but kind of like some of Grant Morrison's comics, it makes you think and I have found myself re-reading them.

Ministry of Space - This is a good enough series, not really long enough to have a real dense storyline. The artwork is really killer and the guy can draw some amazing looking space craft. I'd love to read a longer scifi series like this one by Warren Ellis.

Orbiter - This one is a decent read and has some interesting ideas on the concept of 'first contact'.

Down- This is another gangster movie written as a comic. It is an OK read.

Reload - This one has some really nice artwork by Paul Gulacy, but I think the story doesn't quite hold together. I'm going to re-read it again at some point, as I have the issues.

Hellblazer - I liked both of the story arcs he did on Hellblazer. The Haunted one I thought was particularly good.

The Authority - This didn't blow me away as I think it did some others. It has nice artwork some interesting points and is worth reading, I just didn't think it was the best of all of the Warren Ellis that I have read.

Ultimate Galactus Trilogy - First two parts I thought were pretty killer, especially the first part in Russia, but the ending wasn't quite as cool as the start. It is still decent.

earlnash, Thursday, 25 September 2008 22:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Ellis on Stormwatch >>>>>>>>> Ellis on Authority (and I loved The Authority)

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Thursday, 25 September 2008 22:22 (fifteen years ago) link

seeing as wellis wz my first step back ino reading comics as an impressionable teen (as opposed to an impressionable nine year old) & also the WARREN ELLIS FORUM was one of the first places i spent time BEING ON THE INTERNET (lol 90s) i was quite confused with reading all the work for hire stuff he dismissed so fervently--like stormwatch, which is pretty great in spots--and not wanting to admit to myself it was, largely, better than his 'own' work

ultimate fantastic four = pretty good + a shame they got rid of him on it, i think

thomp, Sunday, 28 September 2008 06:25 (fifteen years ago) link

From the latest Bad Signal mailout (no, I don't know why I still subscribe to it either):

Also spent three hours writing a single page of FELL script
on Saturday night, which indicates that issue may have
gotten more complicated than it needed to be, ha ha.

Heard from John Cassaday over the weekend -- sounds like
he's about halfway through issue 27 of PLANETARY.

JESUS.

Telephone thing, Monday, 29 September 2008 16:25 (fifteen years ago) link

LOVE TAKES TIME

David R., Monday, 29 September 2008 16:28 (fifteen years ago) link

-----------I enjoyed Planetary, even if it ended badly.

I love this line!

Niles Caulder, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 14:27 (fifteen years ago) link

His "own" work mostly sucks, from what I've read (a few Avatar things and a couple of Transmet trades, easily enough to put me off any more forevs). Stormwatch, Planetary, Nextwave, all great. He's about the same as Millar, really, far as I can see. So desp to be Grant or Alan he forgets how good he is at writing great "standard" stuff. Prob a horrible thing to say, but that's the impression I've gotten off both their creatory crap. I plan on buying some more Stormwatch tomorrow, actually.

Niles Caulder, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 14:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Has anyone else here read Atmospherics? The "twist", the horrible bragging introduction, I didn't buy another comic of his for more than a year after. Thankfully I only paid about $2 for it.

Niles Caulder, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 14:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Millar's creator work basically has convinced me he is a wholly repellent human being.

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 14:53 (fifteen years ago) link

You might want to reread the thread there, rog.

Am I not alone? Reread but still missed it. A comfort nonetheless.

rogermexico., Tuesday, 30 September 2008 22:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I love this line!

ooh?

and issue 27 of Planetary. mmm.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Sunday, 5 October 2008 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Well it still isn't out, is it? Last I heard was upthread, also that it's 96 pages or so. As it stands it certainly has a shitty ending, tho.

Niles Caulder, Monday, 6 October 2008 03:00 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Aetheric Mechanics - I liked this one quite a bit. I thought it was a fun twist on Sherlock Holmes and some other ideas and I thought the conlcusion worked well. This worked better than some of his other short stories, as it was pretty much 'annual' length at 48 pages.

Anna Mercury - This wasn't bad, it was kind of an modern pulp action movie. The story is pretty much an origin arc setup, but it is pretty good. There are some cool art-deco look to the New Ataraxia world that Anna is trying to save.

Doktor Sleepless has really come together for me. Ellis is taking a different angle in the second arc and I'm really finding it interesting.

earlnash, Sunday, 25 January 2009 02:46 (fifteen years ago) link

You know, on Planetary ending badly - what was so suckass was the way they built up the Four as these incredibly scary bad guys, but then when he met the two remaining ones he was able to defeat them by pulling a fast one on them. Hrrrm.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Sunday, 25 January 2009 14:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Works for me, a fast one >> big fighty any time.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 26 January 2009 10:28 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Hah, but maybe the Planetary post-end issue will add something... but I doubt it.

mh, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 01:36 (fifteen years ago) link

eight years pass...
five months pass...

^ classic.

Wes Brodicus, Sunday, 29 October 2017 10:39 (six years ago) link


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