GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

Was it def in Woodstcok through or was that just part of the lie she told Marine?

maybe that was a really long hike lol

Could have been Woodstock, VT!

the acting in this is still pretty good. apart from that i can't think of anything positive to say about either of these episodes. i was a huge fan of season 1, btw.

actually some of the photography is pretty good and so was the scene with adam and the ex-gf, so i exaggerate. It wasn't even though it was just dull and uninspired.

I definitely thought "why is this trip to Woodstock taking so long?" but then thought maybe they were in Woodstock at the point she made the phone call but the destination of the drive was farther

like in no scenario would you need an airport to get from Woodstock to NYC, maybe she's up in New England or something

i enjoyed the exchanges between Shosh & Adam, and I definitely saw the Richard E Grant turn coming from a long way off.

I think if anything it probably just confirmed all the things that rehab was trying to get Jessa to let go of, the innate distrust/keeping your personal shit locked down tight

guys, have u ever followed the subway trip in The Warriors? Makes no sense at all.

The more we talk about it, the more I think the 2 day epic journey to woodstock is (intentional) comedy gold.

My impression was that Woodstock was where they stopped to eat.

Wasn't super excited by the first two episodes. I thought the rehab scenes kind of seemed to be mocking all the addicts in a very cheap and mean way and I didn't like that at all. Marnie and Shoshana are almost unwatchably annoying, and Marnie's mom is worse than either of them. Jessa and Adam remain the characters that make the show enjoyable for me, although I enjoyed watching Hannah sort of give in to wanting to be in a relationship.

Sorry that came out unclear, but what I mean is that I felt like the show was actually kind of taking Jessa's view of them as pathetic and whiny and unsympathetic.

the song over the end credits of this ep was amazing

i think by these ppl (39 twitter followers currently) - https://twitter.com/ZeroDeZire

seems to be impossible to find anywhere on the internet to listen to that song. at least in the 30 seconds I looked.

As I was watching the third episode of season three, I couldn't help but think the birthday party was like coming to the IL Xor message board.

Then I thought, who would be Hannah? Who would be Shosh?

I think we should start a thread entitled "Match the GIRLS personage with the IL XOR user".

lol'd at multiple Smashing Pumpkins refs in this one

well okay two

two more than i expected. but the ep did manage to make me feel old, what with it being the token "old guy" character wearing the same pumpkins shirt i used to have.

Marnie and Shoshana are almost unwatchably annoying

Aren't they supposed to be?

Marnie's whole Edie Brickell video was amazing and will forever justify this show's existence.

xp sure, but how many times do I need to watch Shoshanna being shrill and breathless and one-note and doing her caricatured, sheltered jewish summer camp girl schtick? It's exhausting.

I'm going to take a chance and say you don't need to watch Shosh at all or, conversely, you can watch her as many times as you desire, because no one is forcing you to watch the show.

I'm sorry if someone or something is, however.

First Ray doesn't want to be friends w/her and now you, Hurting 2?!

will still keep watching but show jumped the shark

no one is forcing you to watch the show.

Excellent point. And if you love the show so much, why don't you marry it.

"no one is forcing you to watch the show"

why do people who say this exist?

no one is forcing you to watch the show.

Excellent point. And if you love the show so much, why don't you marry it.

― signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Tuesday, January 21, 2014 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Your pseudo-question presupposes that I have not.

"no one is forcing you to watch the show"

why do people who say this exist?

― flopson, Tuesday, January 21, 2014 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i like how confrontations in this show are never satisfying or cathartic. ray just looked and felt stupid in this episode.

otm, i actually really liked the way ray's fight just kind of petered off with a p minimal impact on everyone else

What did we think of John Cameron Mitchell?

ray just looked and felt stupid in this episode.

As the bridge between his old life chasing young ladies and his new life as the mgr of Ray's (or Grumpy's or whatever they're calling it), I felt this was pretty comparable to the storyline of Jessa and the dad where she was an au pair.

Normal Adam is uninteresting, as well. I want to see more of late season 2 Adam.

I want to to see a comedy spin-off where Adam's sister gets discovered and has a team of handlers to get her through the day while she dances like a sub-par Elaine, rolls her eyes like a madwoman and hangs out bottom-less in bathrooms frustrated at not being able to break plastic sippy cups. Hi-jinks!

I do have to say that that bit where she tried to harangue Ray into dancing with her and then biting him... man that just hit too close to home to not be funny. I have totally had similar things happen to me at shows

^^^

I'll be slightly offended if they just introduced this character who handles her mental health issues somewhat worse than Adam (though they both are obviously quirky at best) and then conveniently discard her.

she was pretty much the only worthwhile thing in the ep

The passive-aggressive part where Marnie ropes Hanah into singing their nostalgic duet (after Hannah has explicitly told her she'd rather leave that in the past), followed by Marnie trying to convince the back room crowd not to ditch for the fight (despite Hannah's obv discomfort) left me wishing I found her less insufferable. In the insufferable battle (subtext: annoying twenty-something girls), I feel like I would have a wary crush on Jessa, would like Hannah in the right circumstances and not for too long at a time, would simply die of boredom with Marnie and avoid her and would find Shoshanna perplexing. Her speech pattern alone would both apall and fascinate me. I'm sure I would never bother to see the good side of Ray unless I lived right next to the cafe and Adam would fascinate me but from afar. I'm not sure I would ever trust him.

she was pretty much the only worthwhile thing in the ep

Awesome for the lols, truly, but I'm really ambivalent about characters like this unless they're written with understanding and sympathy. She kissed Hannah's dad on the lips, rolled her eyes like a banshee, wept manipulatively, bit Ray and then broke into her brother's place entirely w/o his consent and terrified Hannah in the bathroom (I have to admit I entirely saw this coming and she still startled the fcuk out of me) and cut her hand, oh so dramatically, on a glass she broke in her own fist. Guilty lols unless they do something w/her and her brother...

adam's sister was a bit much.

on the other hand i really like bringing out the undercurrent of just meanness in shosh. was also great with ray just saying "fuck it i don't want to be your friend".

the sister is written pretty much w/o any sympathy or understanding. but there is this underlying narrative of the life lesson that sometimes you think you want to be nice to people and helpful and then just... you sort of get that you should avoid them.

i envy anyone for whom the sister was not immediately familiar

agreed on shoshanna she's like a vanessa bayer SNL character

I think part of my problem is that I don't even think Zosia Mamet is that good. But the character is very one-note, and even when they write in "character development" for her, it feels very forced.

I thought Ray's conversation w/Shosh had as much to do with her moving on (and being preditably callow) and his being a little more sentimental and then realizing, 'wtf, I don't want to be friends with you, you'd be a terrible friend.' Not so much a taking sides thing as a different ages/personalities thing.

The apt scenes with Caroline was definitely written to contrast Adam's rational mistrust with Hannah's generous naivete. Classic urban story...

flopson, according to her imdb, everything I'd ever have seen her in is pretty old. Interesting that she lived ten years at the Chelsea Hotel as a child, though.

shosh meant more to ray than he meant to her. i don't know if it has to do with age or callousness. it's just a painful thing that basically everyone experiences at some point.

I want to to see a comedy spin-off where Adam's sister gets discovered and has a team of handlers to get her through the day while she dances like a sub-par Elaine, rolls her eyes like a madwoman and hangs out bottom-less in bathrooms frustrated at not being able to break plastic sippy cups. Hi-jinks!

― Le passé, non seulement n'est pas fugace, il reste sur place (Michael White), Tuesday, January 21, 2014 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink