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http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2014/01/15/mapped_syrian_civil_war_deaths

also lol pat buchanon xp

Mordy , Wednesday, 15 January 2014 21:54 (ten years ago) link

thought that said 'fat buchanon' i was like damn dude

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 22:41 (ten years ago) link

body positivity!

Mordy , Wednesday, 15 January 2014 22:47 (ten years ago) link

'no body positivity for fascists'

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 22:50 (ten years ago) link

Arab Neighbors Take Split Paths in Constitutions
By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK and CARLOTTA GALL
Tunisia and Egypt, whose revolts ignited the Arab Spring, provide a dual lesson in the pitfalls and potentials for democracy in the region as they move toward new charters.

Still haven't read this NY Times article, but mean to

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 22:59 (ten years ago) link

tunisia is like new poster child of arab democracy acc to bbc this morning + nyt here:

TUNIS — Tunisia’s National Constituent Assembly is close to passing a new Constitution that legislators across the political spectrum, human rights organizations and constitutional experts are hailing as a triumph of consensus politics.

Two years in the making and now in its third draft, the charter is a carefully worded blend of ideas that has won the support of both Ennahda, the Islamist party that leads the interim government, and the secular opposition. It is being hailed as one of the most liberal constitutions in an Arab nation.

“They finally found some equilibrium,” said Ghazi Gherairi, secretary general of the International Academy of Constitutional Law in Tunis, the capital. “It is a result of consensus, and this is new in the Arab world.”

i haven't read the other article yet but i assume the contrast is that egypt is busy putting pre-revolution military rule back into place. apparently the big comparisons of the day for sisi are nasser and sadat

Mordy , Thursday, 16 January 2014 04:08 (ten years ago) link

NY T re Egypt in that article:

The difference, scholars said, lies in the shape of the shards left after each country’s revolt. Tunisia’s brutal security police virtually collapsed during its revolt, while its small, professionalized military historically had no interest in political power. In civilian politics, its Islamist and secular factions were relatively evenly matched, with the Islamists winning only a plurality in Tunisia’s first free vote. Each side needed the other to govern.

In Egypt, where the military has been a political player since Gamal Abdel Nasser’s 1952 coup, the generals stepped in to remove President Hosni Mubarak, himself a onetime military man, and never fully receded. Further complicating matters, each side of the political divide had reason to hope it might rule alone: The Islamists dominated the elections, while their opponents knew the military was waiting in the wings.
“The opposition knew that, first, it might never win another election and, second, the military was there,” Mr. Brown said.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 16 January 2014 16:31 (ten years ago) link

GENEVA — A recent series of mass executions attributed to jihadist rebels in Syria may constitute war crimes and crimes against humanity, Navi Pillay, the United Nations human rights chief, said on Thursday.

Mass executions of civilians and of fighters who were no longer participating in hostilities were reported in the northern cities of Aleppo, Idlib and Raqqa. They were carried out by armed opposition groups in Syria, in particular by the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, Ms. Pillay said in a statement, citing what she described as reliable testimony by witnesses.

Mordy , Thursday, 16 January 2014 18:57 (ten years ago) link

That's ISIS, the Al-queda one, right?

curmudgeon, Thursday, 16 January 2014 19:07 (ten years ago) link

yeah, it's ISIS - very bleak stuff

Mordy , Thursday, 16 January 2014 19:11 (ten years ago) link

re pervasive accusations that AIPAC is behind the Iran sanctions legislation:

Despite growing support in the Senate for Iran sanctions legislation, Democratic leaders have yet to feel insurmountable pressure to bring the measure to the floor.

One major reason: The American Israel Public Affairs Committee is mostly keeping quiet.

The powerful pro-Israel lobby has not engaged in a shoe-leather lobbying campaign to woo wayward senators and push Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) to schedule a vote on the bill, according to several key senators and aides. While the group supports the bill — authored by Sens. Mark Kirk (R-Ill.) and Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) — it is not yet putting its political muscle behind a push for an immediate vote.

“I don’t know where AIPAC is. I haven’t talked to anybody,” said Senate Armed Services Chairman Carl Levin (D-Mich.), who opposes any vote for additional sanctions at this time.

As of now, the Menendez-Kirk bill has 59 public supporters, including 43 of 45 Senate Republicans. But dozens of Democrats remain publicly undecided on the bill and seem unlikely to cross the Obama administration and openly back the legislation at this time. And AIPAC isn’t yet twisting Democratic arms.

A number of senators on both sides of the sanctions debate said they’d heard little from AIPAC on the issue, suggesting that wavering lawmakers are feeling little pressure from the group. With its clout on Capitol Hill and ties to deep-pocketed Jewish donors, the group’s muscle could be enough to change the political calculation over how to proceed on the contentious issue.

“I don’t know what they’re doing,” said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), a leading defense hawk and strong supporter of getting a vote on the bill.

...California Sen. Barbara Boxer, a Jewish Democrat, said she’s met with AIPAC “many times” on the issue of Iran. But asked if the group had been pressing her to support the Iran sanctions measure, she replied “not at all.”

“They respect my position, which is that sanctions are totally appropriate if this fails,” she said, referring to the diplomatic talks.

But other senators have not yet heard from the group and indicated they were entirely unaware of AIPAC’s activities on the Hill.

“I really have not talked to AIPAC about it,” said Sen. Ben Cardin of Maryland, a Jewish liberal and one of the few Senate Democrats publicly backing the Kirk-Menendez legislation.

Mordy , Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:33 (ten years ago) link

Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman’s plan to transfer jurisdiction of some Israeli Arab towns, with their approximately 300,000 residents, to a future Palestinian state has the support of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Justice Minister Tzipi Livni, according to senior officials in Likud-Beytenu quoted by Maariv Friday. There was no confirmation of the report.

Unnamed official sources told the newspaper that Netanyahu has concluded that, in the event of an agreement with the Palestinians, the demographic factor must be taken into consideration, which would mean amending the borders to include some Israeli Arab towns in the new Palestinian state as Israel would include some West Bank Jewish settlements. The officials said that, during negotiations with the Palestinian Authority in recent months, Livni brought up the names of specific towns and villages to be included in the Palestinian state.

I'm not a huge fan of the idea, but mondopeeps screaming about ethnic cleansing are insane. If it's ethnic cleansing to force Palestinians to belong to the Palestinian state than it's certainly ethnic cleansing to force settlers to move (and also raises the question of why the world needs a Palestinian state if the Palestinians don't want to live there).

Mordy , Friday, 17 January 2014 17:50 (ten years ago) link

it's certainly ethnic cleansing to force settlers to move

I lose your analogy a bit here. I'm not sure how a view regarding which state long-time Palestinian residents should be a part of, is analagous to how we should analyze recent non-Palestinian settlers in that area.

Also, just as some Jews may not want to live in Israel, perhaps some Palestinians want to stay in Israel

curmudgeon, Friday, 17 January 2014 18:19 (ten years ago) link

American Jews not wanting to live in Israel should not be used as a reason to say there's no need for Israel, similiarly with Palestinians.

curmudgeon, Friday, 17 January 2014 18:20 (ten years ago) link

I just mean that if redrawing the border is ethnic cleansing (as I've seen claimed) then forcing someone to actually uproot their home and move bc of their ethnicity is the same. Re the second point, America doesn't share a border w/ Israel, but yr right I was being a little cheeky about the fact that plenty of Palestinians would prefer to live in Israel than in a future Palestinian State.

Mordy , Friday, 17 January 2014 18:23 (ten years ago) link

I just mean that if redrawing the border is ethnic cleansing (as I've seen claimed) then forcing someone to actually uproot their home and move bc of their ethnicity is the same.

I do not agree that these are the same

curmudgeon, Friday, 17 January 2014 19:18 (ten years ago) link

it's more of an a fortiori than an equivalence

Mordy , Friday, 17 January 2014 19:20 (ten years ago) link

hey what if jan brewer decided a bunch of heavily hispanic border towns were just gonna be mexico now, haha right??

goole, Friday, 17 January 2014 20:09 (ten years ago) link

i guess the question is whether those israeli arabs have any say in having their citizenship stripped, "transfer of jurisdiction" is pretty vague.

plus according to that quote it is "in the event of an agreement with the Palestinians" which means never i take it. so this is trolling?

goole, Friday, 17 January 2014 20:12 (ten years ago) link

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/20/world/syria-torture-photos-amanpour/

(CNN) -- A team of internationally renowned war crimes prosecutors and forensic experts has found "direct evidence" of "systematic torture and killing" by the Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's regime, the lawyers on the team say in a new report.

Their report, based on thousands of photographs of dead bodies of alleged detainees killed in Syrian government custody, would stand up in an international criminal tribunal, the group says.

CNN's "Amanpour" was given the report in a joint exclusive with The Guardian newspaper.

"This is a smoking gun," said David Crane, one of the report's authors. "Any prosecutor would like this kind of evidence -- the photos and the process. This is direct evidence of the regime's killing machine."

Mordy , Tuesday, 21 January 2014 19:16 (ten years ago) link

near the end of that piece:

Syria is not a member of the International Criminal Court. The only way the court could prosecute someone from Syria would be through a referral from the United Nations Security Council.
Because of Russia's support for the Assad regime, and because it has veto power on the council, such a referral seems unlikely, at least for the time being.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 21 January 2014 21:03 (ten years ago) link

this is so fucked: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/116241/burma-2014-countryside-concentration-camps

Mordy , Sunday, 26 January 2014 22:46 (ten years ago) link

(i know it doesn't really fit the purvey of this thread but idk where we're talking about myanmar if anywhere?)

Mordy , Sunday, 26 January 2014 22:47 (ten years ago) link

this profile is nuts:
http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=1713

Mordy , Thursday, 30 January 2014 16:53 (ten years ago) link

Yay Tunisia on their new constitution. Everything else here is too depressing and complicated.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 30 January 2014 20:54 (ten years ago) link

yay tunisia :)

Mordy , Thursday, 30 January 2014 20:54 (ten years ago) link

"touchy"

i have the new brutal HOOS if you want it (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 30 January 2014 21:02 (ten years ago) link

obv this whole "controversy" just made me like scarlett more

Mordy , Thursday, 30 January 2014 21:03 (ten years ago) link

obdsv

i have the new brutal HOOS if you want it (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 30 January 2014 21:21 (ten years ago) link

also i love my sodastream. we use it every day. i haven't bought seltzer in years.

Mordy , Thursday, 30 January 2014 21:22 (ten years ago) link

a disturbing amount of my twitter feed did agree that obv scarjo is a war criminal, clearly anyone can see that, etc this past week

balls, Friday, 31 January 2014 01:08 (ten years ago) link

http://africaindc.wordpress.com/2014/02/02/ethiopian-retail-establishments-protest-israeli-treatment-of-africans/

a January 22 protest march in front of the Embassy of Israel by diaspora Eritreans calling on Israel to respect the rights of African refugees.

protest took place in dc

curmudgeon, Sunday, 2 February 2014 17:46 (ten years ago) link

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/02/08/iran-says-warships-headed-close-to-us-borders/5316199/

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iranian warships dispatched to the Atlantic Ocean will travel close to U.S. maritime borders for the first time, a senior Iranian naval commander said Saturday.

The commander of Iran's Northern Navy Fleet, Admiral Afshin Rezayee Haddad, said the vessels have already entered the Atlantic Ocean via waters near South Africa, the official IRNA news agency reported.

The fleet, consisting of a destroyer and a helicopter-carrying supply ship, began its voyage last month from the southern Iranian port city of Bandar Abbas. The ships, carrying some 30 navy academy cadets for training along with their regular crews, are on a three-month mission.

The voyage comes amid an ongoing push by Iran to demonstrate its ability to project power across the Middle East and beyond.

IRNA quoted Haddad as saying the fleet is approaching U.S. maritime borders for the first time. The Islamic Republic considers the move as a response to U.S. naval deployments near its own coastlines. The U.S. Navy's 5th fleet is based in Bahrain, just across the Persian Gulf.

Mordy , Sunday, 9 February 2014 19:06 (ten years ago) link

What thread should this go on?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/lynching-of-christian-man-by-muslims-is-sign-of-chaos-in-central-african-republic/2014/02/09/ecd02e54-91d5-11e3-b3f7-f5107432ca45_story.html?hpid=z1

Pumandele’s body was taken inside his small house. His father, Gilbert, seemed confused by his son’s unexpected demise. “He’s a civilian,” he said. “He doesn’t own a gun. He doesn’t carry a knife. Why? Why?”

It was a question no one in the crowds outside could answer. They possessed only anger and blame. The war had reached their home. Pumandele, they said, was the first in their community to be killed by the sectarian violence.

Some blamed the roughly 6,500 French and African soldiers, authorized by the U.N. Security Council, for being unable to protect their community. Others blamed the nation’s politicians, whose government collapsed after a coup in March by Muslim Seleka rebels, who tormented the majority-Christian population. That prompted the rise of the anti-Balaka, Christian vigilantes who are targeting Muslims.

“We want PK5 to be completely disarmed,” said Kisito Ngoni, 38, a neighbor.

“Let’s take his body to the United Nations office,” suggested Aime Neka, 32, Pumandele’s uncle. “We’ll demonstrate there until they find a solution to the violence

curmudgeon, Monday, 10 February 2014 21:44 (ten years ago) link

if i lived in israel i'd vote for bennett; dude is money:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/14/opinion/putting-all-israelis-to-work.html

Mordy , Friday, 14 February 2014 18:03 (ten years ago) link

^ btw, this article is an amazing read and i highly recommend

Mordy , Monday, 17 February 2014 15:57 (ten years ago) link

if this is true, holy fuck:
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Egyptian-reports-highlight-alleged-Morsi-al-Qaida-cooperation-340556

Mordy , Tuesday, 18 February 2014 19:43 (ten years ago) link

But this too, from the NY Times:

QUOTATION OF THE DAY
"This is a dangerous decision. It validates an attack not just on me and my two colleagues, but on freedom of speech across Egypt."
PETER GRESTE, a journalist for Al Jazeera English, imprisoned under a widening crackdown by Egypt's government that has ensnared scores of reporters, bloggers and teachers.

curmudgeon, Friday, 21 February 2014 15:54 (ten years ago) link

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-26323638

Egypt's government has apparently resigned.

Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Monday, 24 February 2014 11:24 (ten years ago) link

well.

i have the new brutal HOOS if you want it (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 24 February 2014 15:39 (ten years ago) link

"The country is facing huge dangers. It is time we stood together to protect it and help it get out of this narrow tunnel," he added.

"This is neither the time for demands by public workers nor the time for personal interests, but the time for us to put our country's interests above all others."

u'd think the country's interest would include a stable government for the 2 months until elections

Mordy , Monday, 24 February 2014 15:42 (ten years ago) link

Do you think Al-Sisi cares about that?

from that BBC article

The cabinet's decision to submit its resignation to interim President Adly Mansour was made after a 30-minute meeting on Monday attended by Field Marshal Abdul Fattah al-Sisi, the commander-in-chief of the armed forces, defence minister and first deputy prime minister.

The field marshal is widely expected to announce soon that he will step down from both posts and run for president.

According to the new constitution approved in January, an election must take place by mid-April. Correspondents say Field Marshal Sisi would be likely to win, given his popularity and the lack of any serious rivals.

curmudgeon, Monday, 24 February 2014 15:52 (ten years ago) link

http://www.mrdrybones.com/blog/D14223_2.gif

Mordy , Monday, 24 February 2014 17:22 (ten years ago) link

http://i63.tinypic.com/ighkco.png

Mordy, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 21:41 (eight years ago) link

Hailey is not likely to be appointed as a National Security Advisor, so we may all breathe a bit easier.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 22:01 (eight years ago) link

Taliban vs. ISIS fite!

Anyway, it's not a three, it's a yogh. (Tom D.), Friday, 18 December 2015 13:51 (eight years ago) link

Interesting.

Meanwhile, talks at the UN today should solve everything in Syria!

UNITED NATIONS — Diplomats from more than a dozen countries were expected to meet Friday morning in New York, with an eye to drawing the Syrian war to a close and to focusing the world’s attention on the threat of the Islamic State. But whether they can put aside their rivalries and fulfill promises they have made in pursuit of a cease-fire and peace talks by January remains unclear.

At issue is whether the world powers that all have large stakes in the war can end the fighting — and with it, help stem the refugee crisis in Europe and the threat posed by the Islamic State.

This is the third meeting of the so-called International Syria Support Group, which also includes the Arab League and the European Union. The group is led by the top envoys of the United States and Russia, and it includes the regional rivals Iran, Saudi Arabia and Turkey, which have vastly different agendas in Syria.

The last two rounds of talks, held in Vienna in October and November, produced a road map for diplomacy: a cease-fire by January; talks between the Syrian government and opposition parties, mediated by the United Nations; and elections in 18 months.

The talks this week aim to produce a United Nations Security Council resolution by the end of the day. That resolution is intended to give the international support group and the road map for peace the Council’s blessing, diplomats say, but it has been held up by crucial differences between Russia and the United States.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/19/world/middleeast/syria-talks-isis.html?_r=0

curmudgeon, Friday, 18 December 2015 15:43 (eight years ago) link

‪‎Israel‬ and ‪‎Turkey‬ have just agreed to renew full diplomatic ties.

Mordy, Friday, 18 December 2015 18:01 (eight years ago) link

Koplow says:

Turkey is in a serious bind now that its relationship with Russia has deteriorated in such a big way, and Israeli gas provides a way out. If Russia cancels the Turkish Stream project or even takes things one step further and halts natural gas shipments to Turkey entirely, Israeli gas won’t solve things in the short term but will provide a long term hedge against relying on Russia as a primary energy supplier. On the Israeli side, the simple truth is that no energy company is going to invest the resources to develop the Leviathan field without a viable export destination, and the two best large market options were always Egypt and Turkey. The first one is far less attractive now due to the recent Egyptian gas discoveries mitigating how much Israeli gas Egypt will want to buy over the long haul, leaving Turkey as the best destination remaining. There are still political hurdles to be overcome on both sides, and the technical hurdle of constructing a deepwater pipeline is nothing to sneeze at either, but the formal approval granted yesterday to Noble to develop Leviathan likely resulted directly from the reconciliation agreement with Turkey.

Mordy, Friday, 18 December 2015 18:39 (eight years ago) link

this round table looks really interesting too - i'll probably watch after work today:
https://www.wilsoncenter.org/event/the-syrian-crisis-and-israeli-security-challenges

Mordy, Friday, 18 December 2015 18:48 (eight years ago) link

there's a country in the region w/ a highly developed desalination industry - maybe rapprochement is on the longterm agenda for iran?

Mordy, Friday, 18 December 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link

wow more maybe big news, "The five permanent UN Security Council members have agreed the text of a draft UN resolution for the Syrian peace process, diplomats say."
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35138011

Mordy, Friday, 18 December 2015 20:37 (eight years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CU7HYk3UYAAAeQD.jpg

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 December 2015 22:57 (eight years ago) link

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/notorious-lebanese-militant-reported-killed-in-airstrike-outside-syrian-capital/2015/12/20/07153e67-ed03-4fba-8bbd-a8936ef70422_story.html

A notorious Lebanese militant leader, viewed by the United States and Israel as a terrorist and deeply involved in the Syrian civil war, was killed late Saturday in an airstrike on the outskirts of Damascus.

Suspicion for the attack, which killed Samir Kuntar and at least eight others affiliated with the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah, immediately fell on Israel. Kuntar was released by Israel in 2008 after he spent three decades in prison for his role in the killing of three Israelis, including a 4-year-old girl and her father.

Hezbollah, which is embroiled in the Syrian war in support of the regime, said it would take revenge on Israel for Kuntar’s death. A few hours later, three rockets were fired from southern Lebanon into northern Israel, sending residents in towns along the border into bomb shelters. There were no reports of casualties, and the Israeli military said it responded with targeted artillery fire at sites in southern Lebanon.

The Israeli military said in a statement that it “holds the Lebanese Army responsible for attacks emanating from its territory.”

In Lebanon, Hezbollah’s al-Manar TV station confirmed Kuntar’s death, reporting early Sunday that four Israeli missiles had struck a residential building in Jaramana, just outside Damascus, the Syrian capital.

curmudgeon, Monday, 21 December 2015 15:24 (eight years ago) link

on that note: http://imgur.com/Ys1nuCs

Mordy, Monday, 21 December 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/19/un-resolution-syria-creates-framework-yawning-gaps-assad

The resolution creates a framework, but one that leaves yawning gaps between its timbers. It is not clear whether the regime will show up to the January talks brokered by the UN special envoy, Staffan di Mistura, though Damascus will presumably come under strong pressure from Moscow and Tehran to attend.

There are also a lot of questions of the relationship between the Riyadh opposition and the balance of forces inside rebel-held territory. If the disconnect is too great, the talks will lead nowhere and will not bring a ceasefire. But inclusivity brings with it a cost.

Neither the protagonists nor their international sponsors agree on the list of terrorist groups to be excluded. There is consensus on Islamic State (now known to almost all parties by the Arabic acronym Daesh), and near-consensus on the al-Nusrah Front. After that, agreement breaks down. And the discord was evident from the contrasting tone of the remarks from John Kerry and Sergei Lavrov after the resolution was passed. Russia is currently bombing groups and communities supported by the west.

Jordan was given the job of distinguishing between the acceptable and unacceptable but has essentially passed the buck, simply collating the differing views of the outside powers.

curmudgeon, Monday, 21 December 2015 17:25 (eight years ago) link

i wonder if hezbollah could survive nasrallah's assassination at this point - the whole party seems tenuous atm.

Mordy, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 16:58 (eight years ago) link

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Ex-wife-of-Lebanese-terrorist-Samir-Kuntar-says-his-death-was-justified-438055

Kuntar's ex-wife believes that regardless of who killed him, her ex-husband's murder was justified because his intention was not to fight against Israel but to harm Syrians and the Palestinian people.

"Kuntar and Hezbollah are on the Arab land of Syria not in order to fight Israel, the Zionist enemy, or any aggression," she said in an interview with the Saudi al-Arabia Network.

"They are there to fight the Syrian people and the Palestinian people. We show no solidarity with murderers. Murders should be killed," she added.

I mean one would hope she'd condemn him for murdering a family including 2 young children (the horrific details can be read on the wiki page) but you can only expect so much.

Mordy, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 17:39 (eight years ago) link

(trigger warning: i have a strong tolerance for such things and i felt nauseated reading about what he did)

Mordy, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 17:40 (eight years ago) link

i can't believe they broadcast this kind of filth on al-j - essentially advocating for genocide against alawites

Mordy, Sunday, 27 December 2015 20:32 (eight years ago) link

that is kind of unbelievable. are those polls a plausible reflection of wider sunni sentiment?

ogmor, Sunday, 27 December 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link

2012 tales of Sunni hatred of Alawites

If the fighters seeking to oust Mr. Assad sometimes portray their battle as a struggle for democracy, the Sunni Muslim children of the Zaatari camp tell a much uglier story of sectarian revenge. Asked for their own views of the grown-up battle that drove them from their homes, child after child brought up their hatred of the Alawites and a thirst for revenge. Children as young as 10 or 11 vowed never to play with Syrian Alawite children or even pledged to kill them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/04/world/middleeast/in-syrian-conflict-children-speak-of-revenge-against-alawites.html?_r=0

curmudgeon, Monday, 28 December 2015 06:23 (eight years ago) link

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35192109

For IS the loss of Ramadi was inevitable almost from the start but permanent control was probably not their goal. Instead, IS has repeatedly used Ramadi to distract the ISF from attacking the Islamic State's stronghold in Mosul, 450km (280 miles) to the north.....More likely, the slow preparatory phases of the battle for Mosul will now unfold in the first half of 2016.
First, IS' next defensive bulwarks will be ground down - the oil refining hub Qayyarah and other Tigris River Valley towns south of Mosul.
Then the city will be slowly encircled in the summer and air strikes will intensify on IS leadership and logistical targets. Then the assault will begin once the summer heat dies down in the autumn of 2016.

Wow, not till Autumn 2016...

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 29 December 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link


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