GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

Schumer's character was in season 2 too, before her Comedy Central show debuted, so i don't think of her appearances on Girls as a 'star cameo' or w/e

She is awful

"i figured my shit out when i was five years old" is one of the best lines from the show thusfar

in general, i like that jessa is just a delusional, petulant jerk at this point with no redeeming attributes save being beautiful. her rebellious antics at the rehab center were just pathetic and destructive; not glamorous in the least, although you can kind of see why she would think of them that way, and the dissonance between this mcmurphian fantasy and the reality of her situation is something more than cringeworthy. A- for these scenes, and the minus is just because I didn't get the point of that old british guy

lol at "the only people who say that are people without money" re: college is the best years of your life!!!

I would be all in on a show about Jessa, Shoshanna and Adam.

and the minus is just because I didn't get the point of that old british guy

i'm not sure i agree with how it was handled, but surely this was a way for Jessa to get close to someone as a father figure sort only to have her completely crushed when it turns out he just wants to fuck her too

is that place with chocolate cups real???

and the minus is just because I didn't get the point of that old british guy

i'm not sure i agree with how it was handled, but surely this was a way for Jessa to get close to someone as a father figure sort only to have her completely crushed when it turns out he just wants to fuck her too

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I think it also served to deglamorize and give the lie to his glamorous rebellious mystique, at bottom he's a fucked-up pill junkie. so he's no longer a role model in that fashion either.

hard to feel for her though since the episode sets her up as the most unbelievably unsympathetic character I've seen on TV for some time.

she really did remind me, uncomfortably, of those friends whose assurances and promises just go in one ear and out the other because you know they mean absolutely nothing

Withnail!

I liked Ray's amused face when Adam's ex was yelling at him.

Some odd moments where continuity was sacrificed for throw-away gags in this. Like Shoshanna's rocking chair taking up most of the room on the back seat, I was wondering where Jessa was going to sit coming back. Lo and behold, the rocking chair was nowhere to be seen on the return journey. Unless I missed something?

ray's glee in the background of that confrontation was hilarious.

xpost You're right- either they forgot or there was a scene with them ditching the chair that got cut.

the rehab/group therapy scenes in particular were great

are you for real, I thought all that stuff was pretty bad, acting-wise and writing-wise. it sounded like they were all reading stilted lines off cue cards, Kim Gordon included.

mostly liked the episodes though

I thought the awkward young guy in the rehab group was funny. The way he was trying to tell off Jessa yet tripping all over his own sentences.
As small as Kim's part was, she could not sell it. I feel like that's why she was out of frame for most of her lines. Funny cameo though.

Lo and behold, the rocking chair was nowhere to be seen on the return journey.

lol I noticed this too. bad continuity/editing

Not really in my opinion, nothing wrong with letting the viewer fill in the gaps.

So yeah IMO you don't give us Richard e grant as a dissipated wit unless you want us to think abt withnail and a case could be made that jessa is the show's withnail. Hilarious, charismatic, gaping void inside, terrified, destructive.

Tho I guess here it is ' withnail' who leaves 'I'

i kind of imagine Dunham leaving continuity errors in on purpose like "Louie does it, I can do it! ART!"

i liked that you see shosh weirdly bouncing in the car backseat, like is their rental car going to break down or what is the deal and then in the hotel shes still bouncing in the foreground of the shot its just her weird energy

Feel this is mostly otm: Working Girls

Jessa is the most sympathetic character to me now. I've been in rehab, and I was playing the Jessa role there, I guess. Someone needs to do that, since for-profit rehabs are horrible institutions, run by fools, that only care about getting their numbers up.

Interesting. I've never been to rehab but in those scenes it looked like she was sabotaging peoples' sincere if hackneyed attempts at sincerity and - if they are buying into the idea of group therapy - recovery, and also like she had no sympathy for uncool/unglamorous/pathetic people, which is an attitude I am put off by.

She wasn't targeting the institution is my point, and certainly not for principled reasons. I was repelled by her behavior but also I loved those scenes because I could understand why she was resistant to cooperating, as if to do so would mean aligning herself with this sad, broken lot.

i feel like discussing those scenes as if they were naturalistic is mb beside the point

I'm a little unclear as to how/why Jessa landed in rehab in the first place

She's an addict

Her grandmother 'intervened'?

I can't remember the full spiel she gave but it sounded like her rent/living expenses/money from grandma was contingent on her doing rehab, and that maybe this was a regular cycle

"You don't show em the tits they wanna see, and show em the tits they don't wanna see!"

OMG, this is awesome. I demand t-shirts, posters, bumper stickers, all emblazoned with Paul Newman's mug.

Speaking of continuity issues, and/or dubiously intentional post-Louie surreality (and with a hat tip to Get Bent for piping up about this):

IRL it takes about two hours to drive from NYC to Woodstock. In the show, they start during the day, stop over for dinner, STAY in a MOTEL OVERNIGHT, and arrive at the rehab center sometime THE NEXT DAY.

Part of me thinks it was a hyooge meta commentary on how the characters are so dysfunctional it takes them two days to make what should be a two-hour trip.

Haha okay yeah part of me was seriously doubting the length of that trip. I've driven from Philly area to way upstate many times and it never took more than a day

Was it def in Woodstcok through or was that just part of the lie she told Marine?

maybe that was a really long hike lol

Could have been Woodstock, VT!

the acting in this is still pretty good. apart from that i can't think of anything positive to say about either of these episodes. i was a huge fan of season 1, btw.

actually some of the photography is pretty good and so was the scene with adam and the ex-gf, so i exaggerate. It wasn't even though it was just dull and uninspired.

I definitely thought "why is this trip to Woodstock taking so long?" but then thought maybe they were in Woodstock at the point she made the phone call but the destination of the drive was farther

like in no scenario would you need an airport to get from Woodstock to NYC, maybe she's up in New England or something

i enjoyed the exchanges between Shosh & Adam, and I definitely saw the Richard E Grant turn coming from a long way off.

I think if anything it probably just confirmed all the things that rehab was trying to get Jessa to let go of, the innate distrust/keeping your personal shit locked down tight

guys, have u ever followed the subway trip in The Warriors? Makes no sense at all.

The more we talk about it, the more I think the 2 day epic journey to woodstock is (intentional) comedy gold.

My impression was that Woodstock was where they stopped to eat.

Wasn't super excited by the first two episodes. I thought the rehab scenes kind of seemed to be mocking all the addicts in a very cheap and mean way and I didn't like that at all. Marnie and Shoshana are almost unwatchably annoying, and Marnie's mom is worse than either of them. Jessa and Adam remain the characters that make the show enjoyable for me, although I enjoyed watching Hannah sort of give in to wanting to be in a relationship.

Sorry that came out unclear, but what I mean is that I felt like the show was actually kind of taking Jessa's view of them as pathetic and whiny and unsympathetic.

the song over the end credits of this ep was amazing

i think by these ppl (39 twitter followers currently) - https://twitter.com/ZeroDeZire

seems to be impossible to find anywhere on the internet to listen to that song. at least in the 30 seconds I looked.

As I was watching the third episode of season three, I couldn't help but think the birthday party was like coming to the IL Xor message board.

Then I thought, who would be Hannah? Who would be Shosh?

I think we should start a thread entitled "Match the GIRLS personage with the IL XOR user".