We got Ant-Man movie

They could play on Lang being a reformed criminal and have a double redemption for hero and mentor.

xp oh god noooooo

We got Ant-Man minus Wright: http://www.newsarama.com/21206-edgar-wright-marvel-part-ways-on-2015-s-ant-man.html

Whoa, that's kinda big. Hasn't he been talking about doing this forever?

Yeah, damn.

Yo wtf

And it's kinda weird to see too since this'll be the next film after Age of Ultron by about two and a half months and presumably important in setting things going for the next phase as such...then again maybe they're hoping that even if this screws up a bit then they can coast on the presumed Ultron afterburners.

conspiracy theory - maybe guardians of the galaxy is getting torn up by focus groups and studio is panicking and getting their damn dirty ape hands all over ant man

That...makes no sense?

Oh no they've gotten to Ned too

*is possessed*

nah i can see mj's point. this seemed to possibly be in line w/ guardians, a 'different' kind of comic book movie, and maybe early rxn to guardians is scaring marvel. maybe there's only so much deviation from house style marvel can stomach and wright couldn't rein it in that much. either way whatever interest i had in this was just drastically reduced.

yeah what balls said.

yep, balls otm, esp that last sentence.

The word from people on the crew is Wright got booted for being REALLY behind schedule and being ineffective at righting the ship and getting it back on track. Production has been bleeding money for a month and Marvel got fed up with him and they lost their confidence in his ability to manage a production of this size.

Ugh this is a bummer

feel like if two writers of community can handle a cap movie wright'd probably be fine at antman

ohhhh that's where they were from!!! man they did a great job

Directors, not writers

still, I wouldn't have expected two guys from Happy Endings to put out a top-tier superhero movie

Paul Rudd looked a bit rundown on SNL. Perhaps this is partly why.

Russos were directors on Arrested Development, directors and exec producers on Community, and had made at least two feature films before

I mean yeah if they have the wright approved script and all the visual aesthetic established this could still be good, but I'm kinda dubious some hires hand thrown in at the last second will show the same confidence and wit when it comes to a footage of character shrinking and growing in the blink of an eye.

hired hand, rather.

The most exciting thing about this movie was that it involved a power we've never seen, and a director whose previous work suggested he could display it in an inspired way

I admit, nice touch from Whedon

https://twitter.com/josswhedon/statuses/470141319831363584

<3

didn't know what that was so i searched and found the lol worst article of all time jfc cinemablend

if you can't trust anonymous reddit commenters who can you trust

if you can't trust anonymous rebutters on latino-review who can you

Not true. AT ALL.

The prep on this film has been forever and it was impossible to be behind schedule because the entire production was out on hiatus by Marvel for duration of the script's rewrite. Families left homes to work on the movie in Atlanta and were now suddenly in limbo.

So about the rewrite...

About 3 months ago, Marvel had notes. The meat of the notes were about the core morality of the piece, must include franchise characters. etc., These notes came from the big four at Marvel. Joe Cornish and Edgar Wright did two drafts to try and answer the notes without compromising their vision.

6 weeks ago Marvel took the script off them and gave the writing assignment to two very low credit writers. One of the writers were from Marvel's in house writing team. Edgar stayed cool, agreed to stay on the project, and read the draft.

The script came in this week and was completely undone. Poorer, homogenized, and not Edgar's vision. Edgar met with Marvel on Friday to formally exit and the announcement went out directly after.

Edgar & Joe were upset by the sudden, out of nowhere lack of faith in them as filmmakers. Fiege had always batted for them but this felt like it came from the higher ups.

Where does this leave the cast? Well, it is believed they don't have the option to walk like Edgar did.

sic where is that from?

latino-review.com

Scratch Adam McKay off the list of replacements for Ant-Man helmer Edgar Wright.

Negotiations began with McKay in earnest on Friday but the Anchorman director abruptly decided against taking the job on the film, The Hollywood Reporter has learned. The decision is said to be his alone.

A director search had been underway to helm the Marvel superhero tentpole since Wright officially exited the project on May 23. The film is set to star Paul Rudd as the title hero.

We're the Millers director Rawson Marshall Thurber and Zombieland's Ruben Fleischer were also in contention along with McKay to get the directing job, THR had earlier reported.

probably a good thing, McKay hasn't really done anything effects-oriented ever and has only done as much action as is in The Other Guys. the Zombieland guy seems like a good fit, that movie had a nice visual flair to it.

otoh it sucked

How hard can this be? The dudes who did Captain America 2 were best known for "Community." Thor 2 guy was also TV anono. Just hire some chump and save the budget for the FX team.

Kinda depressingly otm. The Feige/Quesada/Bendis et al brain trust exert more influence on these films than their individual directors. It would be interesting to see what an auteur with a particular visual style would bring to any of these films, but I'm not holding my breath waiting for that to happen. Maybe a Dr. Strange movie would be more stylized, more Craig Russellesque as it were...

Jim Rash & Nat Faxon should do it

i think we know who the men for the job are

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/514sGy2oc3L._SL290_.jpg

Why not?

How hard can this be? The dudes who did Captain America 2 were best known for "Community." Thor 2 guy was also TV anono. Just hire some chump and save the budget for the FX team.

Have you ever seen anything directed by Wright?

also alan taylor is kind of the opposite of a TV anono

Anono in the sense that he is not known as a film director, nor as a selling-point name a la Wright. He's a guy who gets it done, and there are lots of people like him, especially in TV. Hell, anyone who handled an episode of Game of Thrones could likely handle Ant-man. And the unlikely hodgepodge of people behind several of these superhero movies already ranges from genre auteurs like Raimi to competent technicians like Joe Johnston to Kenneth Branagh to fucking Jon Favreau. I mean, jeez, Shane Black directed Iron Man 3. Shane Black! Seriously, if this motley crue could all pull it off, plus the aforementioned, then anyone can.

BTW, Iron Man 3 had 1,834 credited visual effects crewmembers, something like 10 fewer than Avatar. When I saw that movie, it scrambled my brain wondering just what a director actually does when so much of his film is a massively complicated effects sequence. The irony being, I guess, that many of the most notable sequences of Iron Man 3 were those with RDJ just doofing around, sans suit.

and trevor slattery bumbling about

and gwenyth Paltrow consciously unpeppering

does seem that marvel's nu spooreero line is best thought of as the creation of its producers, with the director as a higher-up among an army of hired-hand technicians

he tells the fx ppl what to create. ideally.

there's storyboards, animatics, etc etc

its not like they all just go off by themselves, all 1,834, and vote on what to do.

When I saw that movie, it scrambled my brain wondering just what a director actually does when so much of his film is a massively complicated effects sequence.

It's worth looking at the extras on the Pacific Rim DVD for some insight into this - Guillermo del Toro is super-hands-on with the effects team and it's easy to get a sense of how vital his input is into making the CGI and effects sequences what they are.