Bronte Siblings: FITE!

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Only 50 pages in, and The Tenant is even more wonderful than I remember. Voting Anne!

But don't read her poetry.

http://www.harkavagrant.com/history/brontessm.png

Also voting Anne, I think.

I'll have to dig up my copy of England Is Mine; remember the take/gloss on Branwell in the 'Lucifer Over Lancashire': Billy Liar, Branwell Bronte, John Cooper Clarke, Mark E. Smith, and the North' chapter being decent.

Haha, that Hark A Vagrant comic is excellent and pretty OTM. But it's also right, in that for all the glorifying of melancholy brooding arseholes that goes on in the other two's books, Anne provides a quite realistic counterpoint of "Look, I cleaned up Branwell's vom-stains, this is not glamourous, this is gross."

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Quite right.

somewhat ashamed to say the only work of any of these i've read was charlotte's "the professor" this summer, and it wasn't very good

Aw nuts, I'm sorry I missed this poll.

I love all the Bronte sisters, that Kate Beaton OTM with that comic, but would have voted Charlotte because Jane Eyre is one of my favorite books ever.

Alfred OTM about the hatefulness of Wuthering Heights. I've always been annoyed when it gets categorized as a love story. What book are those people even reading?

i just recommended to a friend on twitter that he read c bronte's villette, because lucy snowe is such a delightfully mean narrator, and then having been reminded of how much i love this book i have been sitting up re-reading it on project gutenberg, unable to stop.

Can't believe 2 people actually voted for Branwell! This is p much the distribution I expected, but that surprised me. Didn't expect that red-headed rogue to get any votes.

Glad I voted for Anne, though. Last night, while re-reading the scene in Tenant where Helen turned down Bore'em's proposal, I was simultaneously both air-punching and saying "You go, girl!" but also collapsing in giggling fits at the wit and sharpness displayed. It's a very funny scene, while also being very pithy, very much like the political bite under the frothy humour of Austen.

And yeah. The idea that Wuthering Heights is nothing but "a love story" ... bloody hell, I know our culture has some fucked up ideas about romance and abusiveness (as captured perfectly in that comic) but Wuthering Heights is a *revenge* story that happens to have some love subplots in it. To read it only as a love story is deliberate point-missing (and probably tells more about the conception of "what women authors write about" rather than the actual themes of that book.)

I need to read Vilette next. I keep thinking I've read it, but I'm not sure I have.

(God, I have come to love the Brontes, though, because they write women who *are* mean and spiteful and sharp and shrewish and incisive and all those things women are ~not supposed to be~ and still get to be the heroine of the story anyway without being reduced to 1-dimensional shrew stereotypes. That gratifies me so much. Reading women who don't have to be ~nice~ or be "likeable" all the time, women who get to be complex and complicated and multi-faceted, with good parts and bad parts, just like real human beings!

Mallory Ortberg, I L U

http://the-toast.net/2014/01/14/are-you-in-a-bronte-novel/

^^^How to tell if you are in a Bronte novel

Happy Anne-Day

http://forbookssake.net/2014/01/17/bookish-birthdays-anne-bronte/

Do we blame Charlotte for making Anne's work less known - as a result of her temporarily blocking further editions of Anne's second novel, leading to a mangled edition being widely read for decades ?

Not that she's to blame for the mangled editition, Thomas Hodgson is, but that probably wouldn't have been the text followed if she didn't block the original in the first place.

Reading the Glass Town/Angria/Gondal writings. Amazing – teenage ultra-high intensity flare outs of gothic/romantic noise – naive and absurdly over-gifted. Really strange tone coming from public figures/stories inserted into private shared world, w/ rumbling angst beneath. Feel like I need an all brontes, all the time phase.

what are you reading it in? i hesitated over it on two for one oxford classics a while back but wd have had to buy Hume or Locke or the bible or smth to get the full value for money, which made the prospect of getting round to the bronte volume somewhat depressing

yes, the Oxford Classics. Bit steep (given I am generally reading the Brontes in a Delphi Classics kindle edition), but I felt like I hadn't been buying enough books lately.

^ I'm reading the impressive and I think important "Charlotte Brontë - The Imagination in History" by Heather Glen at the moment. It's a bit wordy, but in the opening chapter she posits that the CB juvenilia was sophisticated and has strong ties to her later novels, and

"is not an obsessive return to a private structure of feeling - the insistent "first-person stress" that Raymond Williams found in Brontë's writings - but an imaginative intelligance at work. Theirs is the 'seccentric' viewpoint of history's spectral others - those excluded from official narratives, without effective agency, those who have 'no claim'. The focus in each is on the private experience of a solitary individual, unable to shape or even to understand the world in which she finds herself; the perspective not that of the authoritative, but of the uncomprehending, the situated, embodied gaze. 'I looked up,' says Lord Charles in 'Strange Events','and thick obscurity was before my eyes':'the returning sense of sight came upon me,' says Lucy,'red, as if it swam in blood' (Villette 165). Yet in each there comes also into focus the quite distinctive outline of that which the narrator confronts. And the presence of that looming other, impenetrable or impervious, points, it is beginning to seem, to their author's imaginative concern with a 'most real and substantial' world."

*eccentric

As good a place as any other to mention this in: BBC One announces new drama by award-winning writer Sally Wainwright
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2015/to-walk-invisible?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_press_office&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=corporate

Two hour biopic for BBC. I'm pleased Sally Wainwright is doing it, and super excited in general, but fear I'll be the fanboy nitpicking and whining. The story is almost too perfect for a biopic so if they mess up or leave out some of the very much Hollywood-worthy scenes from real life it'll be frustrating.

Two things I absolutely need to see in this

1 (likely to be included): 'Acton' and 'Currer' revealing themselves to be the Miss Brontës when showing up unannounced at the publisher's, to comical response.*
2 (less likely): Charlotte angrily listing W Makepeace Thackeray's faults to his face as she was ""moved to speak to him of some of his short-comings (literary of course), one by one the faults came into my mind and one by one I brought them out and sought some explanation or defence""

* "When the clerk came with the message to see him, (publisher) Smith sent out to ask for their names which the Brontës declined to give, saying they had come on a private matter. Ever corteous, Smith concealed his impatiance and went out to meet the two "rather quaintly dressed little ladies, pale-faced and anxious-looking", who were waiting for him. An amused Charlotte later reported their first meeting.

"Did you wish to see me, Ma'am?'
'Is it Mr Smith?', I said, looking up through my spectacles at a young, tall, gentlemanly man.
'It is'.
I then put his own letter into his hand directed to 'Currer Bell'. He looked at it - then me - yet again - I laughed at his queer perplexity - A recognition took place - I gave my real name - 'Miss Brontë' - We were both hurried from the shop into a little back room.. Smith hurried out and returned quickly with one whom he introduced as Mr Williams - a pale, mild, stooping man of fifty - very much like a faded Tom Dixon - Another recognition - long, nervous shaking of hands.. Mr Smith loquacious:
'Allow me to introduce you to my mother and sisters - How long do you stay in Town? You must make the most of the time - to-night you must go to the Italian opera - you must see the Exhibition - Mr Thackeray would be pleased to see you - If Mr Lewes knew 'Currer Bell' was in town - he would have to be shut up - I will ask them both to dinner at my house &c'

Annoyed to discover 200 pages into The Tenant of Wildfell Hall that I've been reading a completely abridged edition.