Star Trek: Classic or Dud?

So I guess maybe only half her plumbing is different.

i don't know if this ties in troi but betazoids are also notorious for disliking horse riding.

w/r/t troi, betazoids have different plumbing.

is Troi the only one in a onesie? Yar had the guys' uniform and Crusher wore her flowing gowns or whatever the fuck

maybe it is a betazoid thing

http://nintendo3dscommunity.com/uploads/gallery/album_64/gallery_1_64_38263.jpg

*rips up lovenote, gallops off*

HALF-BETAZOID YALL.

is Troi the only one in a onesie? Yar had the guys' uniform and Crusher wore her flowing gowns or whatever the fuck

Oh gods I thought you were referring to Wesley Crusher there for a min.

well so i googled "how does deanna troi pee" and i got some pretty, uh.... good...? fanfiction...

bi-pee is in the eye of the beholder

so in the end we've determined that Betazoids pee with their fingers or something

They pee with their empathy.

You can't spell EMPATH without pee etc.

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http://instagram.com/p/klrUvDqA8h/#

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can't believe how amateur this convo was

Star Trek ships all have artificial gravity and forcefields so they don't need special pee cups or whatever

As for waste, just read about how a replicator works

A replicator was a device that used transporter technology to dematerialize quantities of matter and then rematerialize that matter in another form. It was also capable of inverting its function, thus disposing of leftovers and dishes and storing the bulk material again.

So you're probably eating and wearing what used to be poop.

As for how Troi pees, she suffers for her ridiculous 1980s-inspired leotard and just peels the whole damn thing off.

Star Trek ships all have artificial gravity and forcefields so they don't need special pee cups or whatever

gravity and forcefields not the issue, it's getting out of the uniform to pee that is the issue.

maybe she just pees in her leotard and throws it into the replicator and gets a new one

maybe the uniforms have a spage-age slit you can't see that makes them tear away, its not that complicated

i loved the Space Age Slits

velcro crotch, problem solved

Whole new problem created.

is it though? is it... really.

This all sounds like a, ehm, "movie" I watched not long ago.

have just bought the TOS dvds and am 4 episodes in.

they've cleaned up the pictures and replaced the old model spaceships with cgi (which i'm not sure needed doing). but the worst thing is they've re-recorded the theme tune. it's supposedly identical but it's not. the voiceover they found in a cupboard but i'm sure it's a different take.

Is it still boring as hell or did they fix that too?

:o

they have made the gorn blink.

replaced the old model spaceships with cgi (which i'm not sure needed doing).

It reminds me of the re-released Red Dwarf series 1-5 - they swapped out the old model footage for CGI stuff and it just seems wrong somehow. With TOS, it seems to make the fake nature of the effects more pronounced. Because I'm so used to seeing the Enterprise as a miniature model, I just automatically think of it as looking like that, so when I see the CGI Enterprise, it looks doubly fake.

i don't like it when they do that either, but maybe they feel the need to justify the HD remastering with this junk. they even did it with Next Generation, right?

It was much better done for TNG.

It's a lot less noticable in the TNG remasters.
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/observations/tng-r-changes.htm

whoa, that cleanup looks awesome. i actually may want to rewatch the first season for this!

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/observations/angelone/16a-angelone-r.jpg

hmm I don't think the DVDs of TOS I have have any re-done effects/models. they sure don't look like it to my eyes anyway. was there an earlier, non-fucked with edition?

yeah, there was at least one, maybe two full DVD set releases before they did the current remasters

I have these: http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-The-Original-Series/dp/B0002JJBZY

they're perfect imho

TNG remastered DVDs are great.

the blurays let you choose between the old footage and the new (but are expensive at £80). the dvds only have the new (and were only £30). new packaging is dreadful though - 6/8ths of the cds had fallen out the paper slots in the post.

they've also re-done the theme. it sounds slightly wrong.

The onesie/pee problem is really only a problem with Troi... All the other female crew members are shown to wear the same unisex uniform as the men. (Except for Dr. Crusher, who has her own "doctor uniform", but that one has separate pants too.) And after the first two seasons she gets a rotating set of uniforms: one of them has pants and one has a dress, so the onesie appears much less after that. It seems that her being a counselor and not a ranked officer gives her more leeway in what she can wear... Maybe she thought the unitard looked cool, but after a couple of years of toilet problems decided wearing pants or a skirt would be nice for a change.

I knew I could count on you to take this issue seriously Tuomas :)

I've and buying the TNG Blurays, and I can confirm they look really nice. The digital rework is mostly quite subtle and not noticable; since the original series already had digital effects, the changes don't look so dissonant as the do in the Star Wars special editions or the TOS. Also, from what I've gathered they pretty much had to recreate some of the effects, because the original CGI images would looked awful in HD. But the rubberhead aliens and all the other practical effects are left intact, thankfully there's no SW level revision going on there.

I meant to say Blurays, not DVDs.

I am unashamed to say that I love Troi's monochromatic aqua blue dress ensemble and hope that becomes standard women's dress before I die.

We should do a Best Troi looks poll (making sure to include her as a Romulan).

this always bugged me how much it looked like they just stuck antennae on troi
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d4/Phantasy_Star_II.jpg

The blu-rays for TOS have the original theme song with the original audio as an option. Although I'm usually a purist about such things, I actually like 90% of the new CGI effects, so I usually turn that option on but switch to the original audio.

Anybody else try playing Star Trek Trexels?

I am unashamed to say that I love Troi's monochromatic aqua blue dress ensemble and hope that becomes standard women's dress before I die.

I love this one too! So Atlantean!

http://media.tumblr.com/223e5184a20a89177bae62572457da0e/tumblr_inline_mozp99lZIh1qz4rgp.jpg

Though I do also like the regular uniform they gave Troi later on. IIRC it was actually a plot point that some high official in Starfleet told Troi she can't just dress however she likes, she has to wear the same uniform as everyone else.

http://images.wikia.com/memoryalpha/en/images/5/54/Negotiations.jpg

In the TNG pilot she actually had a similar uniform, but with a minidress:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UlXkqJ-q8nI/UDi3Y_h6LzI/AAAAAAAALp8/3ai4PFeblqk/s1600/Tasha-Yar-wearing-skirt-uniform-1024x768.png

I don't think it looks bad, but I'm still glad they got rid of it, because it kinda reeked of TOS era sexism.

yeah the short sleeve/miniskirt look didn't work on TNG at all. i do love both Troi outfits above

Oh yeah, I'd forgotten Tasha Yar had one too in the pilot. Mandatory minidresses and short sleeves on women just feels stupid in the supposedly egalitarian Starfleet. Especially on Yar, who was supposed to be masculine, physical counterpart to Troi's feminine empath.

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also lol i forgot it was DICK JONES' fault that Troi got the unisex outfit