Cosey Fanni Tutti: Classic or Dud?

Listened for a while, then the stream died.

I listened, and I'm going to the Chicago gig

stoked

jealous!

I saw them at the Metro in 1987 and they were really great

Still bummed I didn't get to see them, but they've been recording these new/live versions so there's something to look forward to:Chris Carter and Cosey Fanny Tutti will release Carter Tutti Plays Chris & Cosey on February 17th, 2015

I've been (skim) reading her autobiography/memoir, which I don't think is even out yet. It's fascinating up until when TG reform, then it's just a bunch of boring old rock musicians bitching and kvetching about boring old rock subjects like management, money, recording etc. Gen is the absolute villain of the book, a terrible man, terrible man - that's according, not only to Cosey, though she has most cause, but Chris, Sleazy and most people who crossed his path - if the book is to believed, that is.

So, is that them on the cover of the UFO album, "Force it" or wot?

have an irrational dislike of chris/cosey ever since they beefed with thighps <3

Hadn't heard about that, what was the beef about?

Answering my own question:

https://twitter.com/coseyfannitutti/status/607629459785674752

Although if what she said was true (and I have no reason to doubt her) surely it's Thighpaulsandra you should be disliking?

in matters such as this i basically think 'ok, who was closer to the artist in question', and trust them

also thighpaulsandra is 10x the musician of any of the surviving hidden reverse crew

Was tickled by the fact that Cosey fancied Gen because he looked like the lead singer of Quintessence. Not that she fancied him that much, certainly not with the intensity induced by the pert buttocks of Chris Carter.

And then there's Chris and Cosey's friendship with Frank Warren. You couldn't make it up.

I think you'll find Chris and Cosey were members of TG, and as such had more of a right to TG archives than Thighpaulsandra ever did. Plus, has he denied selling stuff? If not, then it's a question of fact, not one of trust.

Plus, the idea that Thighpaulsandra is 10x Chris & Cosey as musicians is wtf.

Trust the judgement, I mean

While they were ex-members, wasn't there a huge falling-out?

You mean because Gen was allowing all and sundry to put out TG product without the permission of the rest of the band, and from which they received no financial gain?

I know what you meant but it's a stretch to say that Thighpaulsandra's judgement on what to do with TG archival material should be trusted merely because he was closer to Sleazy than C&C were at the time (if indeed that is the case)

xp

Reading interviews with TPS I'd say it's very likely that he and Sleazy were close right up until his death, but there's also talk of unpaid debts that he's now evening-out. I don't know. It's all a sordid business when money and legacy gets involved. I do think it's possible to over-venerate the objects of artistic creation.

I've got the book preordered but it's not out for a couple weeks here, I think.

Seeing C&C perform a few years back was a great experience, and I hope I get the experience to see them with Nik Void at some point. Probably something I should prioritize, if the opportunity arises.

I came to the realization after reading a few interviews that Chris & Cosey are nearly exactly my parents' ages, which is a bit of a weird perspective

C & C never fell out with Sleazy and were in contact with him hours before he died - he'd emailed them to rant and rave about Gen's latest shenanigans.

exactly

imago, selling Coil's master tapes to the highest bidder on eBay for personal gain is total bullshit, full stop, take off yr fucking rose colored prog-snob glasses

"better musician", fuck off with that

what C&C should I listen to to challenge that notion?

any of it

Had the Coil tapes not been 'baked' and transferred (and thus not actually useable as media any more)? IRDK but that was my understanding. Maybe people were still upset.

Imago - try Re-Education Through Labour, Driving Blind & CC's The Space Between album.

Stick to what you know

Let's get back to the important stuff,

"I had begun to fall for Gen. My attraction was partly influenced by my crush on Phil 'Shiva' Jones, of the band Quintessence. Gen had a similar pretty 'Indian Prince' look."

Can't way to see the cast for this:

https://www.screendaily.com/news/andrew-hulme-to-direct-art-sex-music-about-uk-performance-artist-cosey-fanni-tutti-exclusive/5146685.article

Purely based on looks, Lesley Sharp could play CFT.

will watch

Big Cosey fan but found her book surprisingly dull. The last third - the tedious TG reunion stuff - in particular is a major slog

MY NEW BOOK!!! Was out in the garden when this proof was delivered. WOW! 2 years of writing. ⁦available August. @FaberBooks⁩ ⁦@hannahknowl3s⁩ ⁦@alexavh⁩ #deliaderbyshire #margerykempe pic.twitter.com/BnK079iaD4

— Cosey Fanni Tutti (@coseyfannitutti) April 14, 2022

cool, I'm listening to Carter Tutti right now

i was just listening to C&C's Heartbeat

looking forward to this. i'm hopefully going to do a Q&A with Cosey when it comes out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua2J2cengE0

thank you so much, I saw this tour!

Wooo-ha! Thanks for the link!

Thanks! I'm still sad that there was no demand to see them play in the UK in this era and they only ever played North America or mainland Europe.

It felt like every second gig i went to back then there was some "shock / gore" footage being shown but i'm still a little surprised they were rocking the texas chainsaw massacre footage.

i'd love to know what was in CC's flightcase.

Thought the revive would have been about Cosey's new book:

https://www.faber.co.uk/product/9780571362189-re-sisters/

Cosey's new book is most excellent.