Gabor Szabo: Who Cares About His MIddle Eastern Modalities Aside From Me And Hurting?

60s stuff is safe?
I bet I'm seeing the 70s stuff

xpost!

with some exceptions of course, mizrab & rambler both have a few tracks of the east~meets~west sound, and night flight is essential if only for "keep smiling"

but i'd say my essential short list, in order, would be:

1. dreams
2. bacchanal
3. jazz raga
4. spellbinder
5. more sorcery

if u spot any of those cheap buy ASAP

are you deliberately excluding the sorcerer or is it just implicit that it is the mothership

almost anything from the 60's is great, but i'm personally averse to a lot of the pop music covers

"faces" from 77 is prob the only one i could go without ever hearing again entirely

xpost lol i guess sorcerer would be my #6? maybe i need to relisten soon!

ha you should! i need to check your list but it's so good. the spacy first half especially.
i have a higher tolerance for gabor doing like a mellow instrumental lucy in the sky with diamonds than i do hearing jose feliciano but that stuff is kinda forgettable, yeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttwcTL5uolg

^^ have this on the "his greatest hits" double LP from 1971, also a must-buy, only a few duds on it

the recently released 1965 recordings w/ szabo, charles lloyd, ron carter + pet larocca are pretty awesome. maybe charles lloyd needs his own thread, that'd be wildly popular.
does gabor get cred for being a feedback pioneer? he's doing some cool stuff here, which seems pretty ahead of the curve for 1965.

I enjoyed "Night Flight", went well in groove and decadent "yacht" mixes I made.

Chico Hamilton's Man from Two Worlds is a good one to check out, as that is probably the best all around group Szabo played with.

― earlnash, Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:14 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

second this

I haven't listened to this dude for years, I dug out Bacchanal tonight and damn it is so good.

bacchanal is so good

yeah it is! didn't realize until recently that it's jim keltner playing drums there (went on to play with ... pretty much everyone).

had no idea he a) had a drug problem and b) went to scientology to take their cure, with predictable results (ie lawsuits)

hey who didn't get through the 70s without a drug problem or a flirtation with a cult or both

lol true I just kinda figured he was a square

you headz probably know this one, but szabo playing eight miles high is a nice 60s thang
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWE_RfZW74Y

Been listening to Bacchanal and Dreams a lot today and they sound like his strongest albums, that fragile melody on his Love Is Blue makes me want to cry.

does gabor get cred for being a feedback pioneer?

I think a little bit, but what he does with it is so subtle and controlled I don't know if people really catch it.

Possibly posted upthread, but this is seriously great. I could easily picture this jam on a Three Lobed LP

www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1UeCtGGBuo

This stuff rules. Thanks.

Fantasy concert I am going to image in my head: The Pentangle, Gabor Szabo, Popol Vuh.

imagINe that is. Can't type anymore.

mizrab is the best

yeah i could listen to mizrab over and over and never get tired of it.
gonna reemphasize my recommendation of that charles lloyd live thing! been listening to it a ton, just wonderful music throughout.

does gabor get cred for being a feedback pioneer?

I think a little bit, but what he does with it is so subtle and controlled I don't know if people really catch it.

― master shammer (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, February 7, 2015 6:04 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

In the John French Beefheart book he mentions them (orig magic band) seeing Szabo play in the early 60s and being impressed with his feedback use

oh no kidding! that is cool. i have a hunch jerry garcia was listening as well.

thought i'd arrived at the end of the road wrt szabo' output till i discovered his work with the chico hamilton quintet:

https://youtu.be/0BJNxVf_iLM

https://youtu.be/_Wn4-NSu64w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BJNxVf_iLM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wn4-NSu64w

Yeah "El Chico" is a really good album! Man From Two Worlds has Gabor on it too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzYsnq9-JvQ

maybe charles lloyd needs his own thread, that'd be wildly popular.

― tylerw, Friday, February 6, 2015 2:21 PM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm all for this. I've been enjoying lots of Charles Lloyd these days, especially Big Sur Tapestry and some of his new age-y things. "Forest Flower" is of course classic, and the most recent one I heard (Hyperion with Higgins?) was excellent as well. Could use a proper thorough S&D, I'm just sorta dipping into his catalog at random and there is--predictably--quite a bit to hear

Charles Lloyd’s latest record is appearing in some year end roundups: 8: Kindred Spirits, Live From The Lobero.

But I can to post about an interesting spinoff from Gabor Szabo’s band I just became aware of, something called The Advancement. How to describe their single album? Kind of psych, proggy horror movie giallo vibe.

I too care about Gabor's middle eastern modalities but.. the album he plays sitar on? That is some of the worst sitar playing I've ever heard in my life, I think I could play sitar better. Why didn't anyone on the session tell him it was miles out of tune?

Dunno, but there’s nothing out of tune on The Advancement album.

Don't remember seeing this thread before---how long, o Lord, before I give this guy theee attention he deserves? Mentions of Lloyd remind me of my Rolling Jazz 2019 post:
Looking for Charles Lloyd on Bandcamp, found Manhattan Stories (2014), comprised of
Two 1965 New York Concerts, Disc 1 recorded at Judson Hall & Disc 2 recorded at Slugs' Saloon.
A remarkable and previously unrecorded quartet featuring three jazz giants: guitarist Gábor Szabó, bassist Ron Carter and drummer Pete La Roca.
'It was a specific time and place'; Lloyd told Manhattan Stories annotator Don Heckman. 'We all felt like the boundaries were being dissolved and we could do or try anything. This is a music of freedom and wonder -- we were young and on the move.'
Which is just what the sample track, "Sweet Georgia Brown," sounds like (17' 49", but quite spritely). Especially digging the interplay of guitar and sax, bass and cymbals, also succinct solos, esp. PLR's and Szabo's---the latter bright and brittle, autumn leaves, but def not drifting. What other Szabo should I check? Used to see his LPs...
https://charleslloyd.bandcamp.com/

Checking that out now, thanks

There was a piece on szabo in ugly things 2 issues back. Possibly 3 by now.