Rudimentary Peni VS Flux of Pink Indians

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ohhh man they brickwalled the fuck out of this, check the waveforms:

https://soundcloud.com/sleeve-the-dj/sets/rudi-peni-comparison

sleeve, Friday, 3 January 2014 02:31 (ten years ago) link

(new LP remaster is the second track)

sleeve, Friday, 3 January 2014 02:32 (ten years ago) link

via Prindle website, for posterity:

Okay, it's Grant's fault. View these quotes from Ian Glasper's excellent 2006 book The Day The Country Died: A History of Anarcho Punk 1980-1984:

"My favourite release is definitely Cacophony." - Nick Blinko

"For me, (Cacophony) was the most interesting thing that we had done musically, in terms of all those weird time signatures, and the lyrics are fascinating... even if I don't understand all of them! I just think that the band as a whole put in a really good performance, and it was the best thing Nick has ever done vocally; I think he was at the absolute pinnacle of his creativity on that album." - Jon Greville

"The different style of Cacophony was not intended. It just came out that way, and in retrospect I regard it as a move in the wrong direction, into self-indulgence. As a result of that, in recent years, I have pushed to build upon and improve the more 'traditional' Peni style." - Grant Matthews

Thanks a lot, ASSHOLE.

sleeve, Friday, 3 January 2014 02:36 (ten years ago) link

Thanks for the information.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 6 January 2014 21:55 (ten years ago) link

five months pass...

I really taken my time on finally listening to that soundcloud comparison. They all sound fine to me but I'm not an audiophile.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 21 June 2014 16:33 (nine years ago) link

subhumans reissues were so terrible. i don't even want to know about the crass reissues on cd. if some of the most perfectly recorded records ever made were fucked up somehow for cd it would be sad indeed. best to stick with old pressings. peni records are amazing in their natural form. same with flux. you can't improve on that stuff.

scott seward, Saturday, 21 June 2014 17:41 (nine years ago) link

eight months pass...

Nick Blinko might just be my favorite punk vocalist. finally getting around to buying Cacophony, though used to play the shit out of Death Church.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 7 March 2015 22:55 (nine years ago) link

You have EPs of RP right? Because that shit is GRRRRREAAAATTTTT

^^^ NOT METAL (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 7 March 2015 22:58 (nine years ago) link

actually I need that one too.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 7 March 2015 22:59 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

holy shit

tt has introduced me to rudimentary peni. death church was really good but CACOPHONY oh my giddy fuck

imago, Thursday, 29 September 2016 21:28 (seven years ago) link

Peni is the best band of all time.

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 29 September 2016 21:33 (seven years ago) link

this album/band is just...i can't even

imago, Thursday, 29 September 2016 21:40 (seven years ago) link

incredible

imago, Thursday, 29 September 2016 21:40 (seven years ago) link

carnivores are like tombstones

am0n, Thursday, 29 September 2016 21:55 (seven years ago) link

It's too bad Nate C doesn't hang out anymore-- he wrote an entire in depth treatment on cacophony which he submitted to 33 1/3 one year

I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 29 September 2016 22:31 (seven years ago) link

Never got published?

"raw buttin' these toilet seats" (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 29 September 2016 22:45 (seven years ago) link

Peni is one of those bands from the first Sublime album that I kept meaning to check out but never did.

how's life, Thursday, 29 September 2016 22:46 (seven years ago) link

Xpost not by 33 1/3 but maybe he placed it elsewhere

I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 29 September 2016 23:46 (seven years ago) link

imago I am very glad you are getting yr head ripped open by this masterpiece

sleeve, Friday, 30 September 2016 00:30 (seven years ago) link

keen to see what you make of the RP album about the imaginary pope

The Codling Of The London Suede (Legal Warning Across The Atlantic) (DJ Mencap), Friday, 30 September 2016 08:55 (seven years ago) link

it's great and the songs are intense as hell, it would be improved slightly by curbing that fucking papus adrianus thing, but i guess you can't fuck with the artist's vision idk

imago, Friday, 30 September 2016 11:39 (seven years ago) link

eight months pass...

aaaaactually it's just as good as cacophony p much, which makes it one of the best things ever

imago, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 13:37 (six years ago) link

I HATED that record, I guess I will try again

it ain't no Cacophony, though, chill dude :)

sleeve, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 14:42 (six years ago) link

it's beautiful, furious, quite quite mad but also perfect for midsummer

imago, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 14:48 (six years ago) link

quite apart from anything else the instrumentation is monumental, possibly his best riffs ever underpinned by a seriously and understandably pissed-off rhythm section. and like all the best heatstrokes all the songs linger on and on until you're entranced & damaged beyond repair

imago, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 14:50 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

....and now I'm listening to The Fucking Cunts Treat Us Like Pricks

fuck me it's AWESOME

imago, Thursday, 19 October 2017 07:36 (six years ago) link

'The Falklands War' is...monumental

imago, Thursday, 19 October 2017 07:54 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

Pope Adrian 37th Psychristiatric is firmly ensconced as my summer solstice album :)

imago, Friday, 21 June 2019 13:22 (four years ago) link

Peni is one of those bands from the first Sublime album that I kept meaning to check out but never did.

― how's life, Thursday, 29 September 2016 23:46 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol tbh I'm not really sure if I've ever heard a song by Sublime, but I gather they are somewhat different to Rudimentary Peni

Colonel Poo, Friday, 21 June 2019 13:25 (four years ago) link

this thread reminded me of the sad fact I missed seeing my friends' Rudi Peni cover band last year because I was sick and depressed.

sarahell, Friday, 21 June 2019 19:22 (four years ago) link

POGO POPE, POGO POPE, POGO POPE, POGO POPE
POGO POPE, POGO POPE, POGO POPE, POGO POPE
POGO POPE POGO, POGO POPE POGO
POGO POPE POGO, POGO POPE POGO

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 21 June 2019 20:01 (four years ago) link

I don't think I'm ever going to "get" that record, I still find it unlistenable :(

love all the rest of course

Ambient Police (sleeve), Friday, 21 June 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link

seven months pass...

WHEN YOU'RE IN A MARTIAN CHURCH

... that's Traore! (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 January 2020 03:46 (four years ago) link

I won the Flux of Pink Indians’ 'Strive to Survive Causing the Least Suffering Possible' album in a KUSF radio contest in the mid 80s. I had no idea who they were at the time. It was one of those records I ended up loving more because I had to stretch to grasp it. The LP itself is a beautiful object

Dan S, Thursday, 30 January 2020 03:06 (four years ago) link

I wish Death Church would get a repress, I missed out on the last one.

ringworm, Thursday, 30 January 2020 06:29 (four years ago) link

eleven months pass...

https://www.zagava.de/shop/nick-blinko?edition=19&versions=0
The paperback version on amazon might be a bit different. Newsletter said something about a new paperback version but I can't remember.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 2 January 2021 18:11 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

New ep and reissues on the way from Sealed Records!
https://www.punknews.org/article/74088/sealed-records-to-re-issue-rudimentary-peni-discography

ringworm, Saturday, 20 February 2021 07:17 (three years ago) link

awesome

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Saturday, 20 February 2021 16:03 (three years ago) link

Sealed records is a side-label of La Vida Es Un Mus, this is really good news because Paco the guy who runs that label is a total lifer and this isn't a reissue for money he really loves this stuff

CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 20 February 2021 16:19 (three years ago) link

Excellent news! Southern records reissues seemed a bit dubious quality-wise.

jvc, Saturday, 20 February 2021 16:21 (three years ago) link

Southern were a pretty shitty label for a lot of reasons towards the end.

I wonder if this means the Alternative LP on Corpus Christi might end up getting reissued at some point, Sealed have already put out a reissue of the Omega Tribe LP. I know Overground records were planning to reissue Alternative but Southern wanted too much money to license it.

CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 20 February 2021 16:27 (three years ago) link

love all those pics of the OG Ampex tapes in that Insta

It would be super cool if they reissued the first 2 EPs in original 7" packaging

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Saturday, 20 February 2021 16:29 (three years ago) link

awesome news! I'm hoping they reissue Archaic 10", I missed that one.

braised cod, Saturday, 20 February 2021 19:44 (three years ago) link

So is this yet another mastering to compare?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 20 February 2021 20:13 (three years ago) link

yes but I have a lot more faith in this one tbh

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Saturday, 20 February 2021 20:17 (three years ago) link

missed getting the last batch. so hopefully catch up with these.
& the Crass titles are reappearing in more comprehensive fashion too.

Stevolende, Saturday, 20 February 2021 20:19 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

Rudimentary Peni has a new album 'Great War' out today (and on streaming services)! Quick listen tells me it's a bit more varied than the last few releases and the singer uses his voice a lot more. Apparently this was recorded several years ago but shelved until now.

braised cod, Friday, 23 April 2021 09:59 (two years ago) link

wait WHAT

P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Friday, 23 April 2021 13:42 (two years ago) link

it's another EP tbf!

imago, Friday, 23 April 2021 14:06 (two years ago) link

Just read that someone is wearing a Rudimentary Peni t-shirt in Oscars nominated movie Sound of Metal

curmudgeon, Friday, 23 April 2021 14:07 (two years ago) link


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