The Wolf of Wall Street (new Scorsese)

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lol at morbs - 'wait the dad's an accountant and the son's a stockbroker - gotta be jews right?'

balls, Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:02 (ten years ago) link

Jordan Belfort is Jewish.

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:04 (ten years ago) link

RR sounds like a Borscht Belt comic, fuckface. xp

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:05 (ten years ago) link

it is kinda weird to think that this schmuck has inspired two movies now, it's not like his story is so amazing it needs several takes, he's not amy fisher.

balls, Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:07 (ten years ago) link

his book is prob just one of those things where you read it and are all wow so cinimatic

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:08 (ten years ago) link

Hill and DiCaprio are the Leopold + Loeb of penny ante financial scams.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:08 (ten years ago) link

boiler room's so fictionalized that who knows who is who but i'd like to think vin diesel and jonah hill played the same guy.

balls, Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:09 (ten years ago) link

i guess it was leos thing, he owned the rights and had been wanting to make it for a while then roped marty in

i use their nicknames cause im in leos entorage

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:10 (ten years ago) link

we do get to see the 'consequences' so we get to actually see confirmation that these asshole stockbrokers that are basically stealing normal ppl's money are in fact bad guys. like in wolf of wall street who knows, maybe belfort ripped off a bunch of child molesters, we have no way of knowing, the movie's too ambiguous.

balls, Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:11 (ten years ago) link

it seems like the only reason scorsese still makes movies is because leo finds something and pushes it on him

Hungry4Ass, Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:12 (ten years ago) link

its true i think about the child molesters

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:12 (ten years ago) link

we do get to see the 'consequences' so we get to actually see confirmation that these asshole stockbrokers that are basically stealing normal ppl's money are in fact bad guys. like in wolf of wall street who knows, maybe belfort ripped off a bunch of child molesters, we have no way of knowing, the movie's too ambiguous.

― balls, Wednesday, January 1, 2014 11:11 PM (50 seconds ago) Bookmark

lol

Hungry4Ass, Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:13 (ten years ago) link

lol xp

balls, Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:13 (ten years ago) link

im being so misconstrued itt, its not fair

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:13 (ten years ago) link

sending Kyle Chandler to talk to you on your yacht, lag.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:18 (ten years ago) link

It was said up thread but that yacht scene was just, wow: from genial jousting to GET THE FUCK OFF MY YACHT

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:21 (ten years ago) link

im just an honest appreciatior of film who likes fleshed out multidimensional characters decisive plotting

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:22 (ten years ago) link

on the yacht he was more mad at himself than anything

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:23 (ten years ago) link

Maybe it's just cuz of the little Kyle chandler stuff I've seen but during his initial cutaways I was like "ugh that dude is always a Boy Scout/FBI agent" and then when he finally gets some lines his slow burn fuck you to Leo was pretty unexpected and awesome. Loved the ambiguity of his subway ride too.

da croupier, Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:24 (ten years ago) link

yeah the yacht scene was great

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:24 (ten years ago) link

Didn't Kyle keep calling it a boat, too? Or do I misremember?

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:25 (ten years ago) link

ha yes totally messing w him

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:26 (ten years ago) link

ever been on one of these before
what a boat

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:26 (ten years ago) link

Lagoon I bet you'll like this more the second time when you can focus on the sweet stuff and get over wishing it was something more. I was like that with Pineapple Express.

da croupier, Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:27 (ten years ago) link

i enjoyed the movie a lot actually, but def i feel like it couldve been great

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:28 (ten years ago) link

pineapple express was good too

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:30 (ten years ago) link

also, unzip when Margot is onscreen

xxp

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:30 (ten years ago) link

the prospect of watching this a second time is a circle undreamt of by Dante.

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:31 (ten years ago) link

plz the only dante you know is joe dante

balls, Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:33 (ten years ago) link

I'm psyched to see it again, idk.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:35 (ten years ago) link

This is gonna be a+ pay cable channel flip fodder - and the kids will like it too!

da croupier, Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:37 (ten years ago) link

dang kids

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:38 (ten years ago) link

the next time i see this thing it will be on tv and since i can't imagine it will work edited for television (unlike the departed and obv unlike goodfellas which in some ways you haven't truly seen until you've seen it edited for television) maybe not even then. if you don't get margot in the doorway what's the point, you rob the movie of its nuance and subtle charms.

balls, Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:39 (ten years ago) link

its true this movie has so many subtle boobs in it

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:42 (ten years ago) link

thinking that a big part of liking this but not really caring once I walked out was that I just don't dig Leo.
the yacht scene was undermined because all I see is squinty Leo DiCaprio playing his usual part - when he tries to get FUCK YOU vicious it's just a big Pussy Posse kid throwing a fit (which, I guess, is true to the character but boring)

The Departed was not that good but had Marky Mark, Alec Baldwin and Jack hamming it up to distract from Matt Damon
Jonah Hill is no Marky, Alec or Jack.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:50 (ten years ago) link

distract from Matt Damon and Leo being boring

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 2 January 2014 04:50 (ten years ago) link

mother of god at the thought of jack saving the departed

balls, Thursday, 2 January 2014 05:10 (ten years ago) link

I thought this was decent, nothing more—some interesting stretches but some incredibly dull ones as well. Also way too long. Better than any of Marty's non-doc work lately, but that really does not say much.

A lot of the comedy here—such as the excruciatingly long quaaludes scene—seemed like it was repurposed from a Hangover film. If you gave Todd Phillips the same script, I think he'd make nearly the same movie, save for a few music cues.

avant-sarsgaard (litel), Thursday, 2 January 2014 08:18 (ten years ago) link

Todd Phillips could've brought it in under 2:45.

Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Thursday, 2 January 2014 12:49 (ten years ago) link

Todd Phillips would surely have injected that much needed dose of morality. But he knows his stuff:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/10/Frat-house-1998-rare-todd-phillips-banned-documentary-7d52f.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 January 2014 13:04 (ten years ago) link

The hand wringing about morality or lack thereof reminds me, very loosely, of the Errol Morris story of screening "Mr. Death" at Harvard, and having enough students leave questioning the Holocaust that he felt compelled to throw in a few talking heads saying, yes, the Holocaust happened, and yes, it was bad. Because some people need to be told, I guess. Or, I dunno, my fave commentary by Paul Verhoeven, yelling about critics calling "Starship Troopers" "fascist." "The protagonists, they are Nazis! They are bad!!!! Bad!!!!!"

Like I said upthread, only an asshole could watch these assholes and think, man, these are cool guys, not assholes, I want to be just like them.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 January 2014 13:12 (ten years ago) link

Showgirls is long too, but at least it's fun to watch throughout.

Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Thursday, 2 January 2014 13:14 (ten years ago) link

and it showcased its nineties kitsch just as flashily

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 January 2014 13:28 (ten years ago) link

"I never fly without my lucky hat"

Appross of nothing, just popped into my mind for some reason

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 2 January 2014 13:46 (ten years ago) link

do you think '90s pennystock brokers really knew the Freaks singalong?

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 January 2014 15:43 (ten years ago) link

I always think that when it shows up in a movie or show, which means I've thought that dozens and dozens of times over the years. They might not know what it's from, but the phrase itself has achieved ubiquity through cultural osmosis.

Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Thursday, 2 January 2014 16:18 (ten years ago) link

do you think '90s pennystock brokers really knew the Freaks singalong?

Maybe these dudes, because, OMG, actual midgets and freaks and retards and shit, lol

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 January 2014 16:26 (ten years ago) link

The retard child discussion was something else, just incredibly uncomfortable

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 2 January 2014 20:30 (ten years ago) link

Needed some Flashpoint/Steel Wheels.

tbd (Eazy), Thursday, 2 January 2014 21:37 (ten years ago) link


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