This is the POLL We Live In: Genesis - Invisible Touch

My local AOR station played "Home By the Sea" all the time.

Trying to think of any other musicians who maintained a highly successful solo career while still being part of a similarly successful band, and drawing a blank. Is Phil the only one?

In miniature, Gwen Stefani had a pretty successful solo outing at the time. Not sure this is a great or relevant example, though. There are other, better ones I'm not thinking of.

Stevie Nicks, too.

fuck, this album is the bald Thriller
― Barack 2 Chainz Obama (some dude), Wednesday, July 18, 2012 3:33 AM (20 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this might be my favorite thing ever written on ILM
Serious thank yous

― Walter Galt, Wednesday, July 18, 2012 11:52 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

never read this thread before, and yes this is so otm

and re: arctic mindbath's question, my dad loved phil's solo stuff, suckered in there by the supremes cover and sticking around for face value thru but seriously. invisible touch was the only genesis album he bought, and when i started to explore the genesis back catalogue as a pre-teen he was very much "woah! there be prog monsters! you won't like it!" which turned out to not be true, but there you go.

xxpost Bryan Ferry

Only foreign city sirens can cut through,
Nylon sheets and blankets help to minimize the cold.
But they can't keep out the chilling sounds.
Will the nightmare soon give way to dreaming
That she is here with me?

"in too deep" was robbed

is this the most recently revived genesis thread? can't be. I'm either wrong or time flies much too fast.

anyway, is there any other instance of a rock n roll band losing the lead singer, and the drummer steps up to the plate? in such spectacular fashion?

can we all just have a moment to think about phil collins?

i feel like dave grohl fulfills the spirit of this, if not the letter.

hm, good call, I guess if krist had been a foo (which I believe was considered?) and the foo's had ever played a nirvana song, that would be pretty dang close.

Distrust anyone who doesn't think "Invisible Touch" is a flat-out brilliant pop song.

It's pretty good, but most of this album is pretty good.

BRAZILIAN4LYFE

It blew my mind when I found out that, even though it was released while Phil Collins was having mega solo success, and the album went to #1 in the UK album chart... it did not yield any UK Top 10 hits.

Invisible Touch - #15
In Too Deep - #19
Land of Confusion - #14
Tonight Tonight Tonight - #18
Throwing It All Away - #22

just looked and their two highest ever charting UK singles were "No Son of Mine" (#6) and "Mama" (#4), which I would not have guessed

yet every single went top five or better in the United States.

hahahaha "No Son of Mine"???? Really??????

I don't remember ever hearing either of those on the radio or anything. They had a bunch of singles get to #7, including the ones that they are probably best know for over here (Follow You Follow Me, I Can't Dance, also a live version Invisible Touch that came out in 1992)

I remember hearing 'No Son of Mine' on the radio, but I heard 'I Can't Dance' so much more that you'd be forgiven for thinking it was the bigger hit.

I remember hearing "I Can't Dance" and actually bursting into laughter as I leaned over to turn off the radio

I heard every WCD single on the radio through "Hold On My Heart" -- especially "Hold On My Heart."

x-post:

Your reaction to the video must have been priceless, then!

I couldn't actually get to the television to turn it off, I was laughing so hard

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me and this thread

Irony is there is some great stuff on that last Genesis album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHGqGmzzQaY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBz6nXgef9Q

That album came out as this fifteen year old Genesis obsessive was discovering Nirvana and grunge and everything that came with it and also hip hop. I still have some affection for the chorus to No Son Of Mine, but I remember little else and what I do remember I hatehatehate

Collins/Genesis holds a lot of nostalgic cache that stops me being objective about them and their place in the world. 'Land of Confusion' has a more memorable and satisfying hook than Invisible Touch, which simply doesn't do it for me. My partner and I have been jamming 'Jesus He Knows Me' a fair bit lately.

Not enough early epics, I know.

Not enough Paperlate.

fuck, this album is the bald Thriller

― Barack 2 Chainz Obama (some dude), Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:33 PM (four years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

shitty poll results; somehow, expected.

"Land of Confusion" will always be the best Genesis single.

This album is fucking perfection.

There's a lot on this album that I love. Domino is awesome (part 1 would probably have gotten my vote, but I'd have felt bad about not voting for part 2 as well). Title track, Tonight Tonight Tonight, Land of Confusion and Throwing It All Away - all excellent singles. Brazilian is cool.

The remaining two songs (both of which got zero votes) bring it all down a little for me. In Too Deep borders the slimy sappy ballads I'd expect from an outfit like 3T (you know, Michael Jackson's nephews). Anything She Does has good parts, but I can't stand the horns and bass instrumental bits.

Still, I find the album's mostly pretty great.

The correct two songs got shut out.

Pretty sure I told this story before, but I was in some NYC shop one day and "Throwing It All Away" came on, and I saw not one, not two, but three people independently humming or singing along with it.

That song is great, the midlife boomer ballad in excess

I don't care what people say about late Phil Collins-era Genesis, a lot of bands would kill to write a song as good as 'Throwing It All Away' - also 'Invisible Touch' is as perfect a slice of '80s pop as you can get.

"Throwing It All Away" is also one of his most unlikely awesome Bonham grooves. When the drums come in, it's just this really swinging kind of stomp.

Collins sounds nothing like Bonham.

Even at his most aggressive on the kit, and even with the high reverb/noise gate processing, Collins had a far lighter, even jazzier touch on the kit than Bonham.

No one sounds more like Bonham than Bonham, and obviously Phil is fancier. But dude, "Squonk" (for example) is as Bonham-y as it gets. It's not a coincidence that Plant went for Collins.

I don't hear Bonham much on Squonk, but mores in Dodo

Yeah, maybe "Dodo," too. I'm thinking specifically of certain Bonham grooves, songs like "The Ocean" and "Kashmir" (and to a similar extent "When the Levee Breaks") where he's able to convey this heaviness without deviating much from pretty simple, straightforward beats. It's surprising how few drummers can pull this off. Or I should say, it's impressive how well a drummer as typically busy as Collins can pull it off.

I don't think Collins sounds like Bonham on 'Squonk' either... again, much lighter.

I don't think it comes across that way either, but a Bonham style is what he was going for. They've said that Squonk was their attempt to sound like Kashmir and When the Levee Breaks.