Mama Can't Buy You Love: The Official ILM Track-By-Track ELTON JOHN 1978-1988 Listening Thread

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The song to which we owe the thread title?

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link

that's the one!

col, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 19:55 (ten years ago) link

OK I can't find final ASM b-side "Strangers" anywhere, so let's go straight to:

"Mama Can't Buy You Love

http://youtu.be/fw1ulSbMBiw

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 December 2013 14:59 (ten years ago) link

such a shame that the re-issued/remixed version of Are You Ready For Love was used as a freakin advert for Sky TV.

piscesx, Thursday, 26 December 2013 11:26 (ten years ago) link

"Are You Ready For Love

http://youtu.be/4QSA7pSvh-o

I wish Dionne Warwick had sung this.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 December 2013 14:19 (ten years ago) link

catching up:

"Mama Can't Buy You Love": Didn't recall this one for a sec, then the chorus kicked in and bam: suddenly back in '79. Though it's not really "contemporary" sounding: it feels like an '73-'74 oldie that resurfaced at the peak of disco. Makes sense the track was cut a few years earlier, w/ EJ going for an early '70s Philly Soul sound.

"Ready for Love": agree Warwick (or the Three Degrees) could've done wonders with this. Again, bit of a throwback sound.

col, Thursday, 26 December 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link

"Three Way Love Affair" B-side of "Are You Ready for Love"?

http://youtu.be/9K9D8S3LhB0

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c57/djtaddia/45%20Lot%20Vol%20XXX/poasdfghj235.jpg

col, Friday, 27 December 2013 14:43 (ten years ago) link

the sound of Philly Soul in its dotage. Chorus is okay, but repeated 434 times as here it becomes hateful

col, Friday, 27 December 2013 14:46 (ten years ago) link

It's a mystery why EJ flopped with this material. Did he chose terrible songs?

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 December 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link

think it was more timing: this stuff seems really old hat in the year of "Good Times" and "Rapper's Delight." If it had come out in 1975, maybe it's a bigger hit

col, Friday, 27 December 2013 14:59 (ten years ago) link

"Johnny B. Goode"

http://youtu.be/0O2S5G0spr0

http://flaxmanrecords.com/wp-content/uploads/elton-john-victim-of-love.jpg

col, Saturday, 28 December 2013 14:29 (ten years ago) link

this is just ghastly

col, Saturday, 28 December 2013 14:32 (ten years ago) link

holy christ. This is "Victim of Love"-level terrible.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 December 2013 14:33 (ten years ago) link

who starts off their disco album with a cover of "johnny b goode" FFS? acc. to wiki there's an 8 minute version on the album, which i blessedly didn't find on youtube

col, Saturday, 28 December 2013 14:36 (ten years ago) link

The slap bass and cowbell and backing vocals suggest energy.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 29 December 2013 15:53 (ten years ago) link

holy christ. This is "Victim of Love"-level terrible.

― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

Eagles "Victim of Love," of course

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 29 December 2013 15:53 (ten years ago) link

well, "Born Bad" isn't found anywhere. Listened to it on Spotify: it's decent. Generic disco beat, popped bass, a hoarse-sounding Elton singing a vocal he probably cut after a heavy lunch, a "bad to the bone" lyric that its performer can't really sell.

col, Monday, 30 December 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link

oh, and guitar solo that sounds like it was lifted off an Aldo Nova record

col, Monday, 30 December 2013 19:04 (ten years ago) link

21 at 33, I can see you from the opposite shore.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 December 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link

Nah you gotta week at least til we get there. Don't forget the two France Gall duets.

Jeff W, Monday, 30 December 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link

"Born Bad" is on grooveshark: http://grooveshark.com/#!/s/Born+Bad/3Qj5p1?src=5

I'm so behind on these.

Maintenance Engineer of Foolhardiness (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 30 December 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link

aren't you lucky

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 December 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link

"Thunder in the Night"

http://youtu.be/C_3gMWOqszI

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 14:57 (ten years ago) link

I'll say this: if Hercules & Love Affair created the first minute in 2008 no one would blink.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 14:58 (ten years ago) link

Oh, why did he have to start singing? was pretty great until then. "My woman says she ain't my woman!" The choruses on this record really are subpar: this like the sort of disco you'd hear in a nightclub scene in "Falcon Crest."

col, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link

Those clavinets work.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link

i'm way behind on this thread, but checking in to say this starts out sounding exactly how i would expect, and want, disco era elton to sound. but yeah that chorus is completely underwhelming. would it be asking too much to want early-'70s elton to flash forward for a minute and finish late-'70s elton's song?

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 17:46 (ten years ago) link

as it turns out, Elton didn't write (or play) a note on this record. Blame due to the stellar composing team of Pete Bellotte, Stefan Wisnet, Gunther Moll and a few others

col, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 18:13 (ten years ago) link

described in a bio as "German disco songsmiths." Other details: EJ flew to Munich and cut all his vocals for Victim in a single day, in about eight hours.

col, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 18:16 (ten years ago) link

Same formula as "thunder in the night": the first minute sounds like something that would get a Best New Music on P'fork, then Elton stumbles in.

col, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 13:37 (ten years ago) link

cavecairo70
1 year ago

Caribou is a masterpiece compared to this album!!

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 13:41 (ten years ago) link

i'd bet EJ hasn't listened to this record since it was made, if he even listened to it then

col, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 13:45 (ten years ago) link

didn't he go to Russia around this time? i recall that being a big deal. there was a TV special.

piscesx, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 15:02 (ten years ago) link

"Street Boogie"

http://youtu.be/xHZdk0jtpd0

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/xHZdk0jtpd0/hqdefault.jpg

col, Thursday, 2 January 2014 12:40 (ten years ago) link

"Street boogie got a hold on me" eh

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 January 2014 13:04 (ten years ago) link

Chicago's "Street Player" is 100x better than this

col, Thursday, 2 January 2014 14:34 (ten years ago) link

man, we're dying on the vine here. let's finish off this mess of an album:

"Victim of Love"

http://youtu.be/PkkhoCpvLZU

http://eil.com/images/main/Elton+John+-+Victim+Of+Love+-+7%22+RECORD-171661.jpg

col, Saturday, 4 January 2014 14:18 (ten years ago) link

The single!

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 January 2014 14:21 (ten years ago) link

he sounds like Gary Numan singing over a France Joli track.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 January 2014 14:22 (ten years ago) link

What a weird, anonymous way to do a disco cash-in album. You feel that if EJ could've outsourced his vocals to some German soundalike, he would've.

col, Saturday, 4 January 2014 14:43 (ten years ago) link

This farrago confirms my theory about "dated" as a pejorative: a track's dated if it uses the most obvious, recognizable patterns and sounds of the day without alteration (Donna Summer hasn't dated one jot).

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 January 2014 14:53 (ten years ago) link

B-side "Strangers" not available, so here we go into 21 at 33!

Chasing the Crown

http://youtu.be/KdLgZVSq0Fg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Elton_John_in_1980s.jpg

I swear, hearing those power chords was like walking out of a smoky bar into sunlight and air.

yeah, it's nice to hear the "Elderberry Wine"/"Bitch is Back" Elton return after that dismal exile in Munich. Guitar and backing vocals are garish, Taupin's lyric is Bernie trying to do "Sympathy for the Devil" on a budget, but this is the most awake EJ's sounded since the Ford Administration.

col, Sunday, 5 January 2014 16:41 (ten years ago) link

I gotta say: its success mystifies me. The electric piano part, the chorus horns – ick.


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