Genesis Live

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W&W is mainly let down by cloudy mix and production (the only case where I think the remix/remasters bettered the original), always felt like there was a veil over the music or a blanket on the speakers. The second side of the album is tremendous.

akm, Monday, 23 December 2013 14:56 (ten years ago) link

That Ylvis song is basically just a Genesis rip-off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tYyqf0KJWY

jmm, Monday, 23 December 2013 16:58 (ten years ago) link

Could be bullshit but I heard a radio DJ last week say that Collins and Gabriel are in talks for a real Genesis reunion...

Nate Carson, Thursday, 26 December 2013 22:48 (ten years ago) link

They're always in talks. Genesis may be the only huge act constantly breaking up and reuniting where every member old and new is still friends.

I thought Phil could not play drums?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 December 2013 22:53 (ten years ago) link

I have heard Phil can't drum from a whole bunch of people. Didn't know Genesis were all still friends though, doesn't Gabriel routinely refuse to sign off on reissue extras & stuff?

combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 26 December 2013 22:55 (ten years ago) link

Money talks.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 26 December 2013 23:56 (ten years ago) link

Gabriel recently acknowledged recently that them all being still alive might be good reason to consider playing together once more

PaulTMA, Friday, 27 December 2013 00:54 (ten years ago) link

collins recently returned to drumming.

akm, Friday, 27 December 2013 01:11 (ten years ago) link

i wouldn't be surprised if they didn't pull off a show or two at the 02 or something. would have to be very different from the old shows, I'd expect.

akm, Friday, 27 December 2013 01:12 (ten years ago) link

They're always in talks. Genesis may be the only huge act constantly breaking up and reuniting where every member old and new is still friends.

Would maybe put Roxy in here too, if not exactly best buddies.

Master of Treacle, Friday, 27 December 2013 02:58 (ten years ago) link

the roxy thing is infuriating to me, mainly because I missed their last tour, and thought there was one coming up, but they backtracked on all their statements. I guess the album resulted in Olympia, which I like a lot, but still

akm, Saturday, 28 December 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, almost all the Roxy guys appear on each others records, still. Though not always all at once, and Ferry doesn't cameo.

Peter always participates in Genesis biz, but he moves so slowly they rarely wait for him.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 28 December 2013 16:43 (ten years ago) link

four years pass...

Holy shit, those are the best things ever.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:42 (six years ago) link

These have been around for a while; funny that Peter is now selling them though his official store.

Apropos of the thread:

https://progarchy.com/2015/02/01/genesis-lego/

dinnerboat, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:58 (six years ago) link

Uh, LEGO, don;t know what Phil's been telling you but his hair was never that thick

"Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:34 (six years ago) link

Got a press release about that Genesis covers band The Musical Box playing Hammersmith Apollo in the spring and I am FUCKING TEMPTED

"Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:35 (six years ago) link

Why does Phil have "Sifilis" on his shirt?

StanM, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:49 (six years ago) link

go see the musical box they are awesome!

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:38 (six years ago) link

i have a ticket for the SF show I need to unload (show is on Monday), I'm going to be out of town. mr schwitterz?

akm, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:53 (six years ago) link

The Musical Box are awesome! What set are they doing?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 21:03 (six years ago) link

i wish akm! ill be outta town too.

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 21:09 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijNOt6e2v-o

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 21:09 (six years ago) link

The best one I saw them do was when they had a bald left-handed drummer who sang like Phil! Apparently they got him from (shock) a Phil tribute band.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 21:10 (six years ago) link

they're doing both the black and white sets of the selling england by the pound tour. which is great; but I've seen them do those three times already so I'm not broken up about it. I did see them do the Lamb a few years ago and it was pretty much everything I'd hoped for. I hope they do it again.

akm, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 21:56 (six years ago) link

three years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIZwg1t2iAo

Maresn3st, Thursday, 15 April 2021 09:57 (three years ago) link

Wow, that's incredible quality.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 April 2021 11:42 (three years ago) link

Amazing. The description of the restoration is incredible too; I'd love to see some of the outtakes where the AI thinks the curtains are made of hair. I imagine in a decade there'll be a fully immersive VR version of clips like these.

dinnerboat, Thursday, 15 April 2021 13:24 (three years ago) link

whoa, that's unbelievable. kinda want to see what the original footage looked like.

funny how the camera barely captures Steve. you almost forget he was in the band. you can hear him though

also: was Phil Collins the sexiest man in prog in the mid-70s? or does Peter Hammill take the crown?

frogbs, Thursday, 15 April 2021 13:33 (three years ago) link

that is some astounding clean up work. There are really very few film clips of this period (shepperton studios is the famous one) and the quality of them has been getting better and better every year as more people do restorations on them.

akm, Thursday, 15 April 2021 19:53 (three years ago) link

incredible... can't wait to see more old stuff being restored like this

StanM, Friday, 16 April 2021 14:43 (three years ago) link

Damn, that is incredible.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 April 2021 14:47 (three years ago) link

yeah that's the most exciting part of this to me. imagine a Magma or Can concert film like this

frogbs, Friday, 16 April 2021 14:47 (three years ago) link

Original footage, FYI.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2VZ645W6Ss

dinnerboat, Friday, 16 April 2021 15:19 (three years ago) link

Pity half of 'Supper's Ready' is edited out. Still, fantastic stuff.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Friday, 16 April 2021 15:50 (three years ago) link

Saw this on the Hoffman board, can only hope it is true and photos may one day emerge:

Peter Gabriel's sister was a teacher at my primary school in the late 70s/early 80s. We had the Slipperman costume used in one of our school plays!

PaulTMA, Friday, 16 April 2021 22:14 (three years ago) link

Let's gooooooo
https://www.stereogum.com/2145905/genesis-announce-north-american-reunion-tour/news/

J. Sam, Thursday, 29 April 2021 14:45 (two years ago) link

why do I feel the tickets are gonna be like $300 apiece

frogbs, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:07 (two years ago) link

lol because they will be? on the low end?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:19 (two years ago) link

also lol at the "?" in the tour name.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link

Third, sad lol that the little Instagram announcement in that piece afaict uses the recorded versions of those songs instead of current live recordings/rehearsals. I did find these clips, though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNR2YsfT37A

Which has the band rehearsing, Phil playing some drums and ... Chester also there? But I suspect this upcoming tour will probably be mostly Phil's son on drums.

And this, showing the realities of Phil trying to hit certain notes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD7om5JjYnU

And a very Spinal Tap moment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpUKbHjvCCg

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:28 (two years ago) link

Actually, no idea when these rehearsals are from, maybe 2007?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:30 (two years ago) link

they're pros with infinite money so I'm sure they'll cobble together a decent show I just don't know...how

frogbs, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:56 (two years ago) link

phil's not playing drums, bummer, but obviously he just must not be able

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 April 2021 16:12 (two years ago) link

XXP Josh that is taken from a long-form doc about the last reunion, which is pretty entertaining and has some very potent Spinal Tap moments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9FuWw8ZuDo

Maresn3st, Thursday, 29 April 2021 18:10 (two years ago) link

I signed up for the pre-sale this morning. It's been 35 years since the last time I saw genesis play (also in a hockey arena). then after watching some of the rehearsal clips, i realized that attending this show would probably depress me more than anything... make me wonder how many more years until I'm not able to stay on my feet for 90 minutes. So $600 saved there, I guess?

enochroot, Thursday, 29 April 2021 19:59 (two years ago) link

Yeah, I thought they were great on the 2007 tour, but Phil did a very short solo tour a couple of years ago, and I thought clips from that were super sad.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 April 2021 20:16 (two years ago) link

ive never managed to see genesis live which is kind of insane considering how important they have been to me, so I want to do this, but dunno if I'm going to make it out to the east coast in the middle of fucking winter.

akm, Thursday, 29 April 2021 21:05 (two years ago) link

I saw them at Knebworth in 1992, a little while after my VERY INTENSE teenaged obsession with them had cooled into respectful nostalgia, and while the stuff off We Can't Dance was mostly a drag, the old epics medley at the end was great (cannot remember if Phil had outgrown all that Blues Brothers bullshit during Turn It On Again yet)

burnt hombre (stevie), Friday, 30 April 2021 08:34 (two years ago) link

you're not missin' much by not seeing gary numan in 2022

kurt schwitterz, Monday, 28 March 2022 16:48 (two years ago) link

yeah he's been goth industrial for quite some time. I know people who are still very very into him though. Anyway, I'm still sad that I never went and saw Genesis; they toured so infrequently and the times I was passionate about them never lined up with times when they were touring. I really assumed they'd hit the west coast on this one, and it wasn't to be. At least I've seen Gabriel half a dozen times. I do make it a point now to try to see people; had I not seen Bowie on his last tour when he played right down the street from me I would have really hated myself. I'll be going to Roxy this year as well. I see McCartney every time he comes to town and each time I've assumed it was the last opportunity; guy will probably still be touring 15 years from now.

akm, Monday, 28 March 2022 17:26 (two years ago) link

Reminds me of someone I knew who decided to see B. B. King over Stevie Ray Vaughn, thinking "I'll be able to see Stevie anytime, this might be my last chance to see B. B."... and King outlived Vaughn by 25 years.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 28 March 2022 17:34 (two years ago) link

idk I like Numan's recent stuff

frogbs, Monday, 28 March 2022 17:52 (two years ago) link

xp apologies, dying young is terrible, but with the way that joke was phrased, LMAO.

birdistheword, Monday, 28 March 2022 18:16 (two years ago) link

Reminds me of someone I knew who decided to see B. B. King over Stevie Ray Vaughn, thinking "I'll be able to see Stevie anytime, this might be my last chance to see B. B."... and King outlived Vaughn by 25 years.

I saw Stevie Ray Vaughn and I'd give anything to take that directionless, opiated show back for a solid BB King show.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 28 March 2022 21:36 (two years ago) link

The couple of years where Bowie, prince, Mark Hollis and Scott Walker all passed away kind of ushered in a new era for me

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 29 March 2022 16:20 (two years ago) link

ten months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLdFLl6iMek

lord of the rongs (anagram), Monday, 30 January 2023 12:39 (one year ago) link


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