Mike Trout needs his own thread

no

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/07/obama-compares-the-farm-bill-to-mike-trout

Extension? that pays him $38 M for 2019?

http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2014/2/23/5439770/mike-trout-angels-contract-extension-rumors

the way baseball salaries are inflating, that wouldn't be that insane

no – but you would expect some kind of discount (or - jesus - *is* that a discount?!)

well maybe not if the deal is backloaded that much. I am a Trout believer, but ya never know.

fangraphs has him worth $45m and $52m over the past few years... so he's still guaranteed to be vastly underpaid even in the first 3 or 4 years of that extension

even assuming his play comes down he'll prob be getting fair value even at $38m

that said i bet there's no way the parameters of that rumored deal are actually true

i'm sure it will be like most every deal with slight increases of a few million a year over the life of the contract

the angels aren't really getting a discount but then again trout is an unprecedented player

i guess they're giving themselves some security against him putting up another 10 WAR season and rightfully demanding like $250 million

it's just money tbf, the angels have plenty of it iirc

the angels aren't really getting a discount but then again trout is an unprecedented player

well, there's still A-Rod...

yeah but what part of makes trout unprecedented is not just his skill level but his place in baseball history, in this case meaning a time in which players frequently sell arbitration and FA years many years in advance

there's just no real example to go off with trout. it's uncharted waters (lol). we basically have freddie freeman, clayton kershaw aaand maybe ryan braun as examples but that's really trying to jam a square peg into a round hole

that's what i was thinking – this is like the Freeman ext except instead of dealing with a good player, this guy is elite.
i think Freddie is a great player and locking him long term was p smart, but i was still surprised at the dollar numbers he secured.

http://mlb.si.com/2014/02/24/mike-trout-what-is-he-really-worth

BP's Daniel Rathman:

"With an average annual value of $36.5 million in the free-agent years, the Angels would be paying Trout to be about a six-win player down the road—a strong bet, considering that he’s been worth 8.3 and 9.6 WARP in his first two big-league seasons. Trout would get $12 million (the bulk of it in the form of a $10 million signing bonus) to play with in 2014, and the Angels wouldn’t face the steepest outlays until Josh Hamilton’s deal expires after the 2017 season. Trout and Albert Pujols would cost owner Arte Moreno a combined $65 million in 2018 and $66 million in 2019, when the former’s hypothetical pact would expire."

If he signs the extension he would still be a FA at 28 which is more or less the ideal age for getting a long-term megacontract.

what the fuck do these people do with any of their money over like 20 million idgi

if trout took a like 20/300 deal everyone would be like "wow how shitty for him" but what is 300 million dollars what does that mean

respeck, knuckles

i mean i hear u cluckin, but there is that much money in the game now and he probably deserves it more than arte moreno

isn't it amazing that pro sports teams demand public money for their stadiums?

i know that at a certain point individual wealth is usually just about competition (a-rod needing to be the highest-paid player lol) i guess i just get annoyed when fans buy into it just as much like it really matters if there's a 3 or a 4 in front of trout's contract

ppl saying things like "he'd be a fool to take a contract now" should probably take a step back for a second. the entire concept of MLB contracts is a bizarre upside-down world and freddy garcia's made $53 million

when someone asks me how many millions 1 WAR is worth now i tell them they're capitalist pigs and stab them in the throat

you are basically otm

i actually feel like if i got $50 million but could have easily have gotten $150 million i would be secretly mad for a while

i mean i hear u cluckin, but there is that much money in the game now and he probably deserves it more than arte moreno

^^ this, it's an $8B pie and you have to divide it up somehow. If you figure that the players are entitled to half of baseball's income and Mike Trout is the best of the 700-odd players in that pool, then $200M or more is a fair number. When you think about it like an hourly or per game wage as if it was a regular job then it never seems to make sense.

do the players get half of baseball's income?

trout will make $1m this season

poor bb

he is the Neck of Baseball

http://instagram.com/p/jM9MVyJtbl/

wow

pfft i could do that if i was mike trout

5 rbi today #countingstats

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/45119/oh-my-mike-trout-may-get-even-better

Hopefully not Alfredo Griffin aggressive. I'm sure he's thought this through.

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bi8ANYaCQAAlmvU.png

really, what are the odds he can improve via ANY change in approach?

well look the guy didn't even crack 100 ribbies and 27 dingers is nothing special. those are raul ibanez numbers. nice walk total, but hey where's the clutch? #teamjeter

I didn't watch too many angels games but I assume trout had a shitload of games batting behind such on base threats as eric aybar and alberto callaspo

Dave Fleming's predictions--you'll all love the #1.

http://www.billjamesonline.com/50_fearless_forecasts_2014/

It's been a good long while since someone really had a shot at hitting .400. This guy is so good, if Trout made a run at .400 I think the media will go nuts.

lol come on trout is 90 out of 140 in K%, improving by 2 points isn't really close to enough

(in 1941 williams had a 4.5 K%, hit more homers than trout probably will and had about a similar BABIP)

MLB Play Index ‏@BRefPlayIndex 3h
#Angels Manager Mike Scioscia had 307 strikeouts in 1,441 career games as a player; #Angels MVP Mike Trout has 305 strikeouts in 336 games.

izzat supposed to be a counterpoint or a fun fact

fun fact

the game done changed

six years, $144.5m?

free agent at 28 ffs

Yet another transaction made strictly for David Cameron's amusement.

"If he's happy, good for him."

BIG if, amirite?

just read about this, it had to be done. i know he is a happy guy.

Seems like a great deal for him - he leaves ~$30mn on the table for three free agent years while guaranteeing that if something catastrophic happens he's set, and will still be in position for 12 years/$400mn (or whatever inconceivable number salary inflation has reached) after that.

cameron's a nut tbh

@robneyer
Hey let's make a list of the DUMBEST baseball players! Starting with silly Mike Trout and addle-minded Dustin Pedroia!

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Also, in addition to not understanding how you CRITICIZE a player for agreeing to be paid $140 million ...

@robneyer
... I don't understand why people so obsessed with who makes what, who makes the most, etc. At this point dollars are practically the same.

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also I just learned on Twitter that $140 million does not constitute "a huge payday."