TOTTENHAM ARE STILL A BIG CLUB!

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Agree with that last post tbh

Bigsam: flotsam and jetsam @ whetsam? (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 December 2013 14:17 (ten years ago) link

I've been thinking about a dedicated Diego Simeone thread to dissect the guy, his achievements, what the future might hold, etc. He appears to be some kind of ultraman.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 19 December 2013 14:19 (ten years ago) link

Never forgive, never forget

Windsor Davies, Thursday, 19 December 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link

Unless either feels winning is more possible in England than getting more points than Bayern/RM/Barca.

Money

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 December 2013 14:21 (ten years ago) link

I really like Jardim at Sporting Lisbon but the odds of two opinionated young Portuguese managers in a row are pretty much zero.

Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Thursday, 19 December 2013 14:22 (ten years ago) link

*Atleti are so weird. They rarely have more possession than the opposition (I guess plenty of elite teams over the years have managed that) but at the same time they out shoot opponents by a ridiculously large margin. Every time I've read something about La Liga this season it's been a rival manager or an opposition player lamenting what a nightmare they are to play against.

*sorry for derailing the Spurs thread

pandemic, Thursday, 19 December 2013 14:27 (ten years ago) link

That seems to me to be entirely relevan to our managerless state.

Even last night, the shots on target stats were a fucking embarrassment.

Bigsam: flotsam and jetsam @ whetsam? (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 December 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link

Klopp and Simeone way out of Tottenham's league surely? Atleti and Dortmund p much unarguably bigger clubs than Spurs

Villas-Boas was on 3.5m a year at Spurs. Klopp is on 1.8 and Simeone is on 2.5

Number None, Thursday, 19 December 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link

actually Villa-Boas was on £3.5m and the other two salaries are in euros so yeah, they could definitely be persuaded

Number None, Thursday, 19 December 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link

Klopp has certainly turned down better offers already and Simeone probably thinks he'll get the Real Madrid job or something similat at some point if. don't think either would go to a club that isn't a legit title contender or in the CL.

mizzell, Thursday, 19 December 2013 15:33 (ten years ago) link

Presuming money is their main motivation. What's the PSG job pay? Considering how far down on the list Blanc supposedly was I find it hard Klopp and Simeone weren't on PSG's radar. Perhaps they weren't interested.

pandemic, Thursday, 19 December 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link

Taxes?

Bigsam: flotsam and jetsam @ whetsam? (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 December 2013 15:36 (ten years ago) link

Ancelotti was getting €12m. I doubt Blanc is on as much though

Number None, Thursday, 19 December 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Writing in his column for The Sun on Sunday, Redknapp comments that the Belgian would be the ideal player to fill a gap at Manchester City.

"The defence is not so solid and the guy who could put that right at a stroke is Jan Vertonghen.

"The way he brings the ball out of defence makes him perfect for City. He would probably cost around £40 million, but an all-Belgian central defensive duo of Vertonghen and Vincent Kompany could prove priceless."

r|t|c, Sunday, 5 January 2014 21:59 (ten years ago) link

think we now know if tom carroll's been recalled

r|t|c, Sunday, 5 January 2014 22:00 (ten years ago) link

Surprised he's not sniffing around the Man Utd job yet

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 5 January 2014 22:04 (ten years ago) link

you think he wouldnt steady that ship?

i kid because i glove (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 January 2014 23:45 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

So i mean at what stage do we embrace this?

gelatinate mess (darraghmac), Friday, 24 January 2014 11:27 (ten years ago) link

Matt i want u to know that i still love u man but the fp i just gave you was for "nouse" and it needed doin.

gelatinate mess (darraghmac), Friday, 24 January 2014 11:34 (ten years ago) link

Sherwood has enough nouse to hang himself.

cis het boy (onimo), Friday, 24 January 2014 12:41 (ten years ago) link

Not prepared to make a call until we've played a couple more decent teams. Being Kevin Keegan's Newcastle might be fun but equally if the wheels come off they'll do so spectacularly.

Everyone ships 4+ goals to City these days so I'm not going to hold that against him unless he plays an obviously lightweight midfield. Everton and Newcastle results probably a decent barometer. If we're still in contention after playing Chelsea and Arsenal back-to-back in March then I'll be convinced.

Matt DC, Friday, 24 January 2014 12:55 (ten years ago) link

Also worth pointing out he's got us knocked out of two cups at the first time of asking and may indeed get the hattrick in a few weeks.

Matt DC, Friday, 24 January 2014 13:30 (ten years ago) link

Job done there imo, as a caretaker manager taking over with only one real goal

gelatinate mess (darraghmac), Friday, 24 January 2014 14:17 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Aaron Lennon has 78 caps?!

cog, Monday, 17 February 2014 21:21 (ten years ago) link

21 according to this:

http://www.sporting-heroes.net/football/england/aaron-lennon-4557/international-caps_a11799/

Matt DC, Monday, 17 February 2014 21:23 (ten years ago) link

James Milner has 44.

Matt DC, Monday, 17 February 2014 21:24 (ten years ago) link

worthy of them

I don't believe in the beauty standards (Windsor Davies), Monday, 17 February 2014 22:09 (ten years ago) link

Jimll fix iterating

politically autocorrect (darraghmac), Monday, 17 February 2014 22:13 (ten years ago) link

A victim of wikivandalism

cog, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 15:37 (ten years ago) link

Tottenham putting in a p good challenge to LFC in the how to waste £55+m on 2 useless players stakes.

Of course Soldado had more pedigree than Carroll and Lamela will surely be better than Downing. But so far...yikes.

pandemic, Friday, 21 February 2014 15:47 (ten years ago) link

In terms of core ability and technique Soldado and Lamela >>>>>>> Carroll and Downing.

I think Soldado may be a write-off here but we could sell him back to Spain and recoup some of that money. His problem seems to be confidence as much as anything else, every time I see him play he looks like he's having a fucking shit time, but his approach play has been consistently good and he's set up a load of goals for us.

Lamela hasn't really had enough time on the pitch to impress, anyone labeling him a flop or a waste at this stage needs to remember Bale's first couple of seasons. He has the potential to be better than anyone else in our squad, maybe only Eriksen might eclipse him. He needs more time on the pitch next season, definitely, but if we keep Sherwood as manager he'll bottle it in favour of Townsend every time.

Obviously Sherwood's chances of being in the post next September are roughly equivalent to mine.

Matt DC, Friday, 21 February 2014 16:11 (ten years ago) link

A hat trick of tap-ins in the league would do Soldado a world of good really.

Matt DC, Friday, 21 February 2014 16:12 (ten years ago) link

Soldado's looked okay I've thought, it's more Spurs were so not set up for him. Of course Adebayor returning from Patagonia and immediately being The Man isn't going to help either.

re Downing, it was with resigned amusement that I read this stat analysis on goalscorers and saw that, statistically, the two least effective seasons in Europe in the past half-decade both belong to him.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 21 February 2014 16:17 (ten years ago) link

Yeah I don't actually think Lamela is useless. Similar to LFC in that the torres/bale money received mitigates against the fees subsequently spent on players who performed badly(Carroll/Downing) or haven't performed(Soldado) or haven't even contributed(lamela). But still neither club is rich enough that they can afford to bomb that much money and easily recover. LFC look like they'll be saved by Suarez arriving at the same time and being out of this world. Spurs haven't had that silver lining signing.

pandemic, Friday, 21 February 2014 16:20 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

They are men. I am a manager – not a babysitter. I’m already planning for next season, a lot of players here are playing for their future and I think they realise that now.

two bunny rabbits on mushrooms singing Proclaimers songs (onimo), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 15:05 (ten years ago) link

if spurs lose their next two matches at home (benfica and arsenal), which is quite likely, would sherwood get the sack?

everyday sheeple (Michael B), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 15:25 (ten years ago) link

who would replace him? the season would be a write off, they'd just stagger to the end with him surely

anonanon, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 15:28 (ten years ago) link

yes, all that guff from sherwood applies to himself more than any particular player

ogmor, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 15:40 (ten years ago) link

Levy would make himself a laughing stock sacking Sherwood before the end of the season, it's probably not going to happen.

We have the players to beat most of the teams below us and none of the clubs above us, so we'll be fine and finish more-or-less where we are now without Sherwood doing anything spectacular, but that's pretty much the end of it. Season is a write-off anyway unless the unthinkable happens and we win the Europa League.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 15:46 (ten years ago) link

Spalletti would be available immediately.

Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 16:17 (ten years ago) link

Man for man we're in about the right positiin but jesus its been a long time since we've anything like clicked

Happy enough for sherwood to threaten all and any player from now til summer, surely they all realise he's the lamest duck since howard

unw? j.......n (darraghmac), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 16:21 (ten years ago) link

TS:

"I'm the one planning it at the moment and looking at different personnel. The boys here have an opportunity to prove that they want to stay. If not, they'll be moved on and we'll look for replacements. I know the DNA of the guys and I know the ones I can trust and those I can't."

Asked which players were playing for their future, Sherwood added: "All of them. Everyone gets a second chance. They've got an opportunity to respond, they know what's required. It's about rolling your sleeves up in adversity and that's what I'm looking for. The players are men; I'm a manager not a babysitter."

the pinefox, Thursday, 13 March 2014 08:39 (ten years ago) link

^
He openly states that he cannot trust some of the players.
Is he leaving them to wonder which ones?
Does he know what 'DNA' means?
If he doesn't trust some of the players, why do they get a second chance? They can't be trusted with it.

He's a terrible thing.

the pinefox, Thursday, 13 March 2014 08:41 (ten years ago) link

My guess is he's talking about Vertonghen, who I think mentally checked out a while ago. Maybe Paulinho or Capoue as well. Startlingly inept man management either way given his obviously draining authority, it's not like he can pull a Mourinho or even a Redknapp here.

Also if he thinks Levy will back him in writing off £100m of by and large good players then he's more foolish than I imagined.

Weird how in all of this it's Adebayor who gets to play teacher's pet.

Matt DC, Thursday, 13 March 2014 08:51 (ten years ago) link

I mean Capoue had already gone on record as basically saying "in England they don't know shit about foreign players" and I can't really fault him for it given the way he's been treated.

Matt DC, Thursday, 13 March 2014 08:54 (ten years ago) link

but pf, i really can't see the point in getting exercised about sherwood!

he has never been in the running for the job.

I'm not even sure if he can damage the players given his position.

but i'm not against shouting at vertonghen and the likes.

unw? j.......n (darraghmac), Thursday, 13 March 2014 10:19 (ten years ago) link

He's in the job!

the pinefox, Thursday, 13 March 2014 11:00 (ten years ago) link

Fair

unw? j.......n (darraghmac), Thursday, 13 March 2014 11:14 (ten years ago) link

I suspect that several of the new arrivals, especially the ones who are in and out of the team, will be very nervous about their World Cup prospects and may well consider their moves here a disaster in that regard. The Belgians and maybe Paulinho will be alright but one or two of the others must be dropping out of the reckoning.

Matt DC, Thursday, 13 March 2014 12:47 (ten years ago) link


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