a drink i mean
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 18 December 2013 00:05 (ten years ago) link
*smiley face*{=_=}
― Bigsam: flotsam and jetsam @ whetsam? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 December 2013 00:10 (ten years ago) link
It is seven hours of drinking hard spirits from seemingly randomly sourced containers, another reason its a christmas watch imo
― Bigsam: flotsam and jetsam @ whetsam? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 December 2013 00:11 (ten years ago) link
loved this re-run despite its imperfection and now i've traded the last 3 eps for Chelsea-Sunderland and a Bayern Munich training exercise :/
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 00:38 (ten years ago) link
Imperfection!
― Bigsam: flotsam and jetsam @ whetsam? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 December 2013 00:41 (ten years ago) link
i dunno if you've read the book but having watched the first 4 eps of this for the first time in forever i feel like it had flaws like the movie but different flaws - the whole Ricky Tarr ep is pretty tacky here
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 00:44 (ten years ago) link
Agreed its def a part the movie does much better, but mainly cos hywel bennett is so fuckin funny looking maybe
Esterhazy is amazing on rewatch.
― Bigsam: flotsam and jetsam @ whetsam? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 December 2013 00:50 (ten years ago) link
i think Hywel Bennett is way cool mostly - there's a def 70s dramarama feel to some of the scripting acting that you'd reject in say I Claudius but they haven't completely got away from theatre school yet
i mean fuck it, it's still excellent, these are quibbles. but some of the pacing has surprised me
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 00:58 (ten years ago) link
sorry i meant "Hywel Bennett is way cool mostly in his career but not really in this"
the perfect winter watch with a stiff one in hand
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, December 17, 2013 7:05 PM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I literally snickered when I read this
― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 18 December 2013 01:00 (ten years ago) link
did u obtain much stiff one
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 01:01 (ten years ago) link
i think his characterization of ricky tarr is a bit too smug in places, hardy got the right balance of cocky followed by desperate and lost. but the material overcomes it and i think his episode at the end packs a pretty strong punch.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 18 December 2013 01:02 (ten years ago) link
real mature btw s1ocki, you'll note i subsequently adjusted my post
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 18 December 2013 01:03 (ten years ago) link
;-)
your version of Tarr = fair. i'm definitely not trying to run down the TV version, it's just been an interesting experience having not watched it since i was a kid compared to having read the book and watched the movie in the last 2 years
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 01:05 (ten years ago) link
Yeah i just meant in this re hywel
I reject all the act8ng in i claudius but id reconsider did you put a strong word on it
― Bigsam: flotsam and jetsam @ whetsam? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 December 2013 01:07 (ten years ago) link
when i rewatched Claudius as an adult i was thrown by how camp and OTT it seems at first, but i think there's a few things happening there - it's meant to be theatrical and we're used to people using TV as TV - not a defence as such but worth remembering; the whole story is a sick soap opera thru every iteration, TV and Graves and Suetonius are satirising the fuck out of the protagonatists; once you get used to the ripeness of the style there's a load of fantastic moments, especially jokes and surprise subtlety in the acting. you have to take it on its own terms and eventually it shd click, but if not maybe read the books first cos they do very similar tricks but without the Rep shtick
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 01:15 (ten years ago) link
Ill have a beastly time convincing herself but
― Bigsam: flotsam and jetsam @ whetsam? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 December 2013 01:18 (ten years ago) link
i'm a big believer in "if it's not happening then fuck it" but
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 01:19 (ten years ago) link
Nah tbh it was kneejerk from us both based on channel hop glimpse
― Bigsam: flotsam and jetsam @ whetsam? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 December 2013 01:26 (ten years ago) link
Saw the Beeb adaptation on DVD about five years ago and love it like most however just hated how it wasn't one-a-week re-screen.
Missed it last night as I was at a gig (and was considering cutting off the 2nd half to watch this), loved the EP with Smiley and Jim walking around fields and standing in hotel rooms as Jim recounts his ordeal in Czecho. Really it might be a long time before we see anybody put any faith in the audience being asked to sit watching two guys walking around a field for 10 mins, never mind 45.
Also love the end credits music so much. Do stay until that is finished with.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 10:21 (ten years ago) link
I think I watched the DVD over two nights but its savagery not to have as a one EP a week thing on TV, even if it is so much hogwash I was all pissed off at this halfway house scheduling. How much better it would've been to see the last EP on xmas eve? You know I'm right.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 10:25 (ten years ago) link
absolutely right. i think it's a plot to make me fork out for the DVD
― the five people you meet in Hedon (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 December 2013 10:37 (ten years ago) link
I could praps save you the trouble wink wink
― Bigsam: flotsam and jetsam @ whetsam? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 December 2013 10:38 (ten years ago) link
thanks dude but i'll hang on for now too much Xmas nonsense to think about this week
― the five people you meet in Hedon (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 December 2013 10:41 (ten years ago) link
I got my DVD out from the library for a v tiny fee *flicks V-sign at those capitalist BBC fuckers*
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 10:43 (ten years ago) link
Only realised the other day that Arthur Hopcraft not only adapted TTSS, but also wrote The Football Man
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 30 December 2013 12:32 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyxDVCb3ky4
o_O
― caek, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:44 (nine years ago) link
fuck everything
― the only thing worse than being tweeted about (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:53 (nine years ago) link
so Caine turns out to be the villain because he can't bear to let oiks join his gang
― coign of wantage (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 20:36 (nine years ago) link
but come come the relief when I realised firth wasn't playing smiley
― the only thing worse than being tweeted about (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 20:45 (nine years ago) link
i am going to be charitable and acknowledge that i am not the target audience for this film
― coign of wantage (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 20:47 (nine years ago) link
altho wdn't it be funny to acquire the rights to one of Le Carre's books and do that to it?
I honestly thought at first that it was a reboot of The Spy Who Came In From The Cold
― nitro-burning funny car (Moodles), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 20:51 (nine years ago) link
hopefully mark strong and colin firth will have a healthier relationship in this flick than in ttss
― jbn, Thursday, 22 May 2014 00:44 (nine years ago) link
They had the healthiest relationship in TTSS! and, in the end, the most honest one.
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Thursday, 22 May 2014 01:12 (nine years ago) link
would be great if the kid turned out to be a total jackass
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, 26 May 2014 15:34 (nine years ago) link
or bill haydon
― caek, Monday, 26 May 2014 15:51 (nine years ago) link
exactly.
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, 26 May 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link
i dont get why people are so negative these days i get you want good entertainment but wait till the reviews and the movie ACTUALLY come out smh.... people are just tooo negative its the trailer not every trailers does the movie justice it could be a lot better than expected truth be told the only thing to me that could bring the movie down would an over done cheesy romance that came out the blue im not a fan of those anymore they drag the story down but other than that give it a chance. i know its all opinion and subjective but it seems it could be good.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 26 May 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link
^^^ pvmic
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, 26 May 2014 19:30 (nine years ago) link
I watched this on an airplane
Then I read the wiki plot summary when I landed
Which was probably the best way to go tbh
― 龜, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 03:00 (nine years ago) link
now the bbc series
― dn/ac (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 03:02 (nine years ago) link
It's good? Yeah?
― 龜, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 03:03 (nine years ago) link
incredible
― dn/ac (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 03:05 (nine years ago) link
every winter I break out the DVD set of the bbc series and just work through it. so great.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 03:11 (nine years ago) link
Probably my most rewatched series DVD.
Is the BBC series of a Perfect Spy any good?
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 03:14 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZgTRl3lj78
if you find that this type of thing is the type of thing you like etc
― dn/ac (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 04:10 (nine years ago) link
if anyone is looking for an "american version" of TTSS, david quammen's "the soul of viktor tronko" is a fictionalized version of the yuri nosenko defection and very good and readable in a le carre kind of way
― max, Saturday, 16 May 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link
also i re-read the looking glass war and i take back it being boring. i mean its boring in the way le carre is boring, and its very overdramatic at the end, too much oh the humanity as people complain about upthread, but it gets the dilapidated upper middle class bureaucrats stuff really well
― max, Saturday, 16 May 2015 20:51 (eight years ago) link