...AND THE BEAT GOES ON! The GRAND ILM DISCO POLL results are revealed!

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And Mike T-Diva gets to tell his story, I think.

Tuomas, Monday, 16 December 2013 17:15 (ten years ago) link

20. Chic - Good Times (1979)
442 points, 10 votes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/lixnixn/88567071chic-good-times-jpg_zps19b1c660.jpg

http://youtu.be/HqhT13aQrCc

Gotta be GOOD TIMES cuz the groove is golden

― gilbius farkius, 13. heinäkuuta 2002 3:00

got a point about the blankness/unbelievability of the singers. i kinda never thought the singers themselves were having that much of a good time in Good Times. ive never thought about it enough for it to detract from the song though, i probably couldnt imagine it any other way

― 696, 1. heinäkuuta 2007 21:26

Kinda thought that was the point; the lyric sound much more like the recitation of a dutiful credo than a libidinous celebration - try and imagine Donald Fagen singing it maybe?

― sonofstan, 1. heinäkuuta 2007 21:43

for good times, i think the singing is right for the song. i see what you mean about fagen, but i just kind of think of the singing as kind of cokey and distanced. and thats just fine with me, because as chuck says, disco is good when its cokey and distanced, which is a lot of the time

― 696, 1. heinäkuuta 2007 21:50

about "Good Times" and communal feeling= Rodgers has talked about Good Times a lot, and when it comes down to it, the song is more about feeling good amidst all the shit of the world (including the clubs where Chic got tons of play), amidst a fatalistic feeling of dread. this isn't necessarily a happy communal feeling, but one that is oft-felt and not as subtly pointed-at as in Good Times...

― the table is the table, 1. heinäkuuta 2007 22:48

The escapist criticism re: "Good Times" seems kind of ridiculous, because that's the entire point of the song, escapism as commentary on escapism.

― The Reverend, 1. heinäkuuta 2007 23:14

I think "Good Times" is the greatest single of the '70s, caps it off pretty nicely. To my ears, it goes well beyond Roxy Music or Bowie or any of those other supposedly alienated artistes, into the realm of the ominous and the uncanny--the piano part alone in that record can give you serious pause, with its hint of gospel.

― whisperineddhurt, 2. heinäkuuta 2007 0:15

Boring choice, but nothing quite like "Good Times".

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), 9. elokuuta 2006 9:34

Tuomas, Monday, 16 December 2013 17:21 (ten years ago) link

Wow, that was sooner than I thought it was going to be. OK, story.

I took my sister to see Chic at The Forum in June as a birthday treat; the show was the day after her birthday. She went there a lot in the 1980s, when it was still the Town & Country Club, and it's where she saw her favourite show of all time: The JB's, with Bobby Byrd and Maceo Parker. But she stopped going to big stand-up gigs a long time ago, so I was worried as to how she'd deal with the crush.

The crush, as it turned out, was pretty bad, and I'd forgotten how pushy London crowds could be; we're not like that in the East Midlands. So, as the show progressed, we wiggled further away from dead centre, finally ending up against the wall on the right hand side, by the exit tunnel to the smoking area. Here, finally, was some space to get our grooves on. Also, it was always "her" spot in the venue, back in the day.

Towards the end of the set, someone came out of the tunnel and tapped my sister on the shoulder, while she was dancing. I saw her lean in, nod her head, and then start to walk away with him.

"What's going on?", I asked, with brotherly concern.

"Oh, it's just they've asked me to dance on stage with the band", she replied, as casual as you like. She always was the cool one.

"Great, I'll join you."

The stranger intervened. "No, not you. Just her." Bollocks. Well, OK then.

The smoking tunnel also connected to the wings, where my sister joined about 20 others. Admitting to each other that they were starting to feel nervous, they agreed to walk onto the stage holding hands.

And then this happened. She's just to the right of the singer in the middle, in red trousers, and just to the left of the limelight-hogger in the short blue dress.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JuBUT9FG4U

And this is how it finished.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ_mJyGpsCQ

That was some birthday treat.

mike t-diva, Monday, 16 December 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link

awww, that's the best!

Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 December 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, great story!

Tuomas, Monday, 16 December 2013 18:01 (ten years ago) link

19. Marvin Gaye - Got to Give It Up (1977)
452 points, 10 votes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/lixnixn/4815-gaye-got_zps971ace5b.jpeg

http://youtu.be/ghbFqCZuqG8

classic, of course, but such a strange track for Gaye since the voice is buried under all those layers, it's hard to even make out the lyrics. did Marvin himself do any other tracks in this tight but strung out disco vein? if not, why is it so isolated within his oeuvre?

― jed_ (jed), 13. heinäkuuta 2006 22:15

I haven't heard the Aaliyah cover in a while, but as I remember the production didn't really capture the quality that makes the song so unique/great. It does help to highlight what a wonderful song it is, though.

― people explosion (Sonny A.), 14. heinäkuuta 2006 0:07

I've always admired how texture-based "Got To Give it Up" is, and in my mind it's nearly a precursor to the track-based house/techno that would follow in the decades on. What completely shocks me is that something so un-songy got to #1, and was one of the biggest selling singles in the U.S. that year.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), 14. heinäkuuta 2006 4:16

He was just lying back, casually drumming on a coconut shell IIRC...you can't manufacture that stuff.

― musically (musically), 14. heinäkuuta 2006 6:25

One of the best bass lines ever, plus that vocal. Far and away my favorite Marvin song. Although it reminds me of various other things (Kool & the Gang, Boz Scaggs), they don't sound anything like this. That murk is unique to Marvin, as far as I know.

― pleased to mitya (mitya), 14. heinäkuuta 2006 6:53

Tuomas, Monday, 16 December 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link

I can't believe I didn't know this before this poll. Got to confess my first thought was #blurredlines. Adore them both obv.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 December 2013 18:17 (ten years ago) link

did Marvin himself do any other tracks in this tight but strung out disco vein? if not, why is it so isolated within his oeuvre?

I love this track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTSGdTcPOsc

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 December 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link

18. George McCrae - Rock Your Baby (1974)
456 points, 12 votes, one 1st place vote.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/lixnixn/R-417354-1181211957_zps4814d21b.jpeg

http://youtu.be/rYDY3rJBkuU

something very very beautiful--even haunting--about this song, especially the way the other instruments come in after a few bars of pure drum machine (what drum machine is that, by the way?) i could listen to that drum machine play against the tympani (??) and guitar for a very long time.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), 28. marraskuuta 2005 23:58

something about this record.... it seems to be playing and singing to itself. it has that unusual calm, quietude. i imagine him looking in the mirror when he whispers that first "sexy...."

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), 29. marraskuuta 2005 0:17

this song is so freaking good.

― ZR (teenagequiet), 29. marraskuuta 2005 0:04

This is possibly my favorite single of all time.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), 29. marraskuuta 2005 0:59

The album version is superior because the middle part just goes on-and-on repeating the chord changes on the keyboard ... no solo or anything, just that great keyboard sound repeating over and over as it cycles through the changes ... then George comes back in with that soft "Come on..."

― Stormy Davis (diamond), 29. marraskuuta 2005 5:07

GREAT record! - fabulous irresistible simplicity, funky in the most ethereal way. Nice sustained organ drone. (Farfisa? Or synth, maybe? Wonder if Mr. Selzer can ID it? :)

One of a handful of songs (good or bad) capable of INSTANTLY transporting me back to 1974, a few of which most ILXors almost certainly LOATHE. (Or pretend to!)

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), 29. marraskuuta 2005 6:47

the best vocal performance ever is by the guy that sings "rock your baby"

― Evan (Evan), 14. helmikuuta 2003 7:59

rock your baby is otm, that is one stiff ass two handed hi hat proto disco beat

― anonanon, 4. kesäkuuta 2013 8:36

Tuomas, Monday, 16 December 2013 18:28 (ten years ago) link

did Marvin himself do any other tracks in this tight but strung out disco vein? if not, why is it so isolated within his oeuvre?

Someone probably already responded to this post in its original thread, but it's worth mentioning here that MG wasn't into disco & wrote "Got To Give It Up" after months of pressure from his record label, which is why it's super funky & jazzy & avoids the more vapid aspects of disco-pop. What a jam.

#illuminati (crüt), Monday, 16 December 2013 18:31 (ten years ago) link

For the longest time, my only exposure to "Rock Me Baby" was the Finnish cover version, which didn't do a straight Finnish translation of the chorus but changed it to the phonetically similar "Rokkibeibi" ("rock'n'roll baby"). It was only 10 years or so ago when I found out it wasn't an original composition by the Finnish band.

Tuomas, Monday, 16 December 2013 18:35 (ten years ago) link

Tbf it's better than Kung Fu Taistelee.

Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Monday, 16 December 2013 18:39 (ten years ago) link

Haha, I guess it is! But not as good as "Jeesus Kristus", the best Finnish disco cover:

http://open.spotify.com/track/3kbueEzLyW9fXwW94qkBk9

Tuomas, Monday, 16 December 2013 18:43 (ten years ago) link

love "rock your baby" but "i get lifted" had better come in higher

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Monday, 16 December 2013 18:49 (ten years ago) link

Never liked Rock Your Baby. My in-laws though, it's their song, and I feel somehow quite bad about that.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 December 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link

Risco connection "ain't no stopping is now" is so great, is the rest of the Risco Connection lp anywhere near as good?

brimstead, Monday, 16 December 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link

I can't imagine hearing the Marvin record in an actual disco, it seems much too vague to work on a dancefloor?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 December 2013 19:33 (ten years ago) link

"Rock Your Baby" is snoozytime to me.

"Got To Give It Up" is the extreme opposite.

Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Monday, 16 December 2013 19:35 (ten years ago) link

Agreed. Never got the love for "Rock Your Baby."

a fifth of misty beethoven (cryptosicko), Monday, 16 December 2013 19:41 (ten years ago) link

17. Donna Summer - Love to Love You Baby (1975)
465 points, 12 points.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/lixnixn/donna-summer-love-to-love-you-baby_zpse7b1c344.jpg

http://youtu.be/VRI1yzn2ugA

Ooooh.... 'Love To Love You, Baby' by Donna Summer. More orgasmotronic than erection section. Maybe that's just me...

― Johnathan, 25. kesäkuuta 2001 3:00

what can one say that hasn't been said? the pouting melodies interlock and pile, the beat throbs, the voice shifts from pure air to laughs to pants for over 16 entrancing minutes.

― sund4r subramanian, 19. elokuuta 2001 3:00

And Giorgio Moroder's hypnotic hardcore trance synth line in Donna Summer's "Love to Love You Baby" ruuuulzzz with even more of an iron fist in a velvet jones.

― Neudonym, 4. huhtikuuta 2003 18:42

Actually, Music only lived during "Love to love you, baby" by Donna Summer in 1975. It died after the song was finished recording.

― donut bitch (donut), 14. toukokuuta 2004 6:0

This song had it ALL. A bassline that swaggered through the song, Donna's sublime vocals floating over the top and...the rest... is history. Very famous history, and rightly so. Donna's finest moment, as far as I'm concerned. The orgasm that granted the song its notoriety ties it all together. Everything builds slowly, slowing a little here, speeding up there and then, halfway through, it all just flows. Evidence that women really have more fun? Possibly. Donna certainly seems to.

Imagine the male equivalent...builds up, builds up, builds up, pulls a slightly odd face, groans a bit, ends. That's your lot.

Quite why this song didn't get 9870 more points is beyond me. The 17 minute version is a Thing Of Cosmic Splendour.

― Amiii Stewart (Amiii Stewart), 17. toukokuuta 2005 15:37

17-minute Love to Love You is so all-time awesome, such a groundbreaking recording

― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), 17. toukokuuta 2012 19:00

Tuomas, Monday, 16 December 2013 20:12 (ten years ago) link

LOL at the Amiii Stewart commentary above. TS: Love to Love You Baby vs. Ravel's Bolero.

skip, Monday, 16 December 2013 20:21 (ten years ago) link

16. Dinosaur - Kiss Me Again (1978)
480 points, 10 votes, two 1st place votes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/lixnixn/R-388115-1106743423_zpsc60d8184.jpg

http://youtu.be/6O92UBBaiI4

as for his disco moments - the 13 minute russell mix of 'kiss me again' - NOT the version on disco (not disco) - is possibly thee greatest dance record of all time.

― stirmonster, 4. maaliskuuta 2004 8:39

I walked around after a few tonight with "Kiss Me Again" blasting in my ears and it was glorious. It always is glorious, but it made me play all AR music once I was home and , goddamn, he's beautiful.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), 24. kesäkuuta 2004 4:48

Huh. I heard the World of Echo and other dreamy dub cello stuff first and thought it was great. Then I heard Kiss Me Again, Is It All Over My Face, and Tell You (Today) and really nothing tops those for me.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), 19. elokuuta 2005 1:57

I didn't really "get" the whole arthur russell thing until a few months ago, when I was walking home late one night and listening to the optimo psyche-out mix, and the version of "kiss me again" that dan's referring to came on. it was a revelatory moment.

― spruce bruce (haitch), 19. elokuuta 2005 7:09

About that guitar sound -- the ju-ju and highlife connections are possible but to me it sounds like a downtown-y (i.e. raw and angular a la Arto Lindsay, et.al) style of disco rhythm guitar playing. Am I stating the obvious? This kind of playing has just always sounded New York to me.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), 19. elokuuta 2005 17:30

I always loved how "Kiss Me Again" seemed to be at least partially striving to sound like a bunch of musicians just throwing down in a room (although of course it's FAR more intricately arranged than that - I re-ripped it to post on my blog a few weeks ago and the multitracking on the flipside in particular is magnificently well-done)

― jamescobo, 21. maaliskuuta 2008 18:03

Tuomas, Monday, 16 December 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link

cooooooool, i was worried we weren't going to see that since it's obviously all MASSIVE CLASSICS from this point on. (for which reason 'rock your baby' surprises me a bit, a nice enough track but i've never thought of it as anything special.)

Merdeyeux, Monday, 16 December 2013 20:56 (ten years ago) link

Great groove on this one.

skip, Monday, 16 December 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link

"Oh baby, is this the woman I want to be?"

etc, Monday, 16 December 2013 21:08 (ten years ago) link

cooooooool

OTM (tho I didn't vote for that one; I'll accept it in the "Wheel Me Out" slot)

Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Monday, 16 December 2013 21:09 (ten years ago) link

15. Earth, Wind & Fire - September (1978)
480 points, 11 votes, one 1st place vote.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/lixnixn/R-969718-1272902137_zpsab357401.jpeg

http://youtu.be/Gs069dndIYk

September is most fun at a wedding.

― Mark, 14. joulukuuta 2009 8:32

yeah, was the year that amongst giants, Chic ran away with it, but over time, Earth, Wind & Fire - September

― PappaWheelie V, 13. helmikuuta 2009 3:30

I voted "September." This marks the first time what I've voted for on ILX actually won.

― Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), 14. helmikuuta 2009 3:09

I often wonder what had happened after a song has faded out. Had the musicians performed an alternate, more solid ending, and decided against it? Did the musicians trail off at their own rate, knowing it was going to be faded and that it wouldn't matter what they did once they'd played enough repeated choruses? Did the musicians start doing funny things for each other in the end, knowing no-one would hear them? There could be an album of good other-endings called "What Really Happened".

― Pangolino (ricki spaghetti), 7. lokakuuta 2004 5:49

As far as I'm concerned, Earth Wind & Fire are still performing "September".

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), 7. lokakuuta 2004 6:04

Her name was Lola...she was a showgirl, with yellow feathers in her hair and a dress cut down to...
No just kidding... my theme song would haavvveee toooo beee........
"September" by Earth Wind and Fire

Cheers!

― Lola Falana, 28. kesäkuuta 2003 9:34

Tuomas, Monday, 16 December 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link

Gosh, I wasn't expecting this. Listening to EW&F in context of this poll actually diminished them for me, not sure why but they seemed less impactful than a lot of other acts maybe. Good songs though.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 December 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link

is "September" the best song recorded exclusively for a comp?

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 December 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link

It's also the best song.

Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Monday, 16 December 2013 21:54 (ten years ago) link

Probably.

Tuomas, Monday, 16 December 2013 21:55 (ten years ago) link

(x-post, or maybe not?)

Tuomas, Monday, 16 December 2013 21:55 (ten years ago) link

not crazy about GTGIU but the others in this run rule my world

g simmel, Monday, 16 December 2013 21:58 (ten years ago) link

EW&F seem really buttoned up by comparison to a lot of these other artists. Watching the video helps a lot because it reminds you that there are people behind the music. This is one of those tracks that is almost robotic in its professionalism.

skip, Monday, 16 December 2013 22:20 (ten years ago) link

is "September" the best song recorded exclusively for a comp?

Donna Summer has one (coming up?) that may qualify as a contender

Josefa, Monday, 16 December 2013 22:21 (ten years ago) link

when my fiancee Eric and I get married, our dance will be to "September."

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 December 2013 22:24 (ten years ago) link

14. Cerrone - Supernature (1977)
481 points, 10 votes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/lixnixn/R-44963-1361889802-8497_zpsf613ab97.jpeg

http://youtu.be/QgGK4qBTwpw (music video)
http://youtu.be/aTWbvxDmiDs (12" version)

Cerrone 'Supernature' vs Houllebecq 'Atomised'

"The potions that we made/ touched the creatures down below..." - and that came out in 1976!

― dave q, 14. helmikuuta 2003 18:56

The specific aspect about Supernature that I like is the spacey feel to it. It feels like I'm in a journey through space whenever I hear it. Maybe it's because of the trancey synthline in the background (not the main one) and the chilling vocal too.

― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), 13. kesäkuuta 2009 10:22

Less glibly, there's a big freaks-like-us anti-social undercurrent in some disco - Cerrone's "Supernature" for instance, with its night- spawned successor race of human/animal crossbreeds. Not surprising, considering its roots.

― Tom, 29. huhtikuuta 2002 3:00

Tuomas, Monday, 16 December 2013 22:26 (ten years ago) link

I think "Supernature" must have the oddest subject any disco hit has ever had? I can't imagine why Cerrone decided he should do a disco tune about the revenge of genetically manipulated animals on the humankind, but I'm glad he did!

The video to the tune is also pretty creepy in all its cheapness... Weirdly, I find the most disturbing part to be those short clips of Cerrone drumming in the desert; he has such a distressed expression there.

Tuomas, Monday, 16 December 2013 22:30 (ten years ago) link

That sleeve is quite something. This was a last-minute cut from my ballot, still awesome tho.

ewar woowar (or something), Monday, 16 December 2013 22:32 (ten years ago) link

*puts youtube, cerrone supernature on to-do list*

From the Album No Baby for You! (Matt P), Monday, 16 December 2013 22:33 (ten years ago) link

This isn't the Cerrone I voted for, but it'll do; afaict this guy was a Disco Midas.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 December 2013 22:40 (ten years ago) link

Ha it took me forever to find out which album had "the ewf song that goes 'i-ee-i' ".

brimstead, Monday, 16 December 2013 22:42 (ten years ago) link

Hooray for Cerrone! I just love this whole album so much (Love in C Minor and The Golden Touch are brilliant too) I heard Supernature on Radio 2 a couple of months ago and it was really surreal. He had three songs on my list, I'd kind of given up on expecting him to place but so happy he did.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 16 December 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link

xps Supernature positively sane compared to crafting a disco epic about Grigori Rasputin

Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 December 2013 22:45 (ten years ago) link

Just going back to Earth, Wind & Fire. I think these days they are such an underrated band. As well as the obviously classic hits they were a great albums band too. Spirit, That's the Way of the World, Earth, Wind & Fire, All n All and I Am are all such fantastic albums.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 16 December 2013 22:49 (ten years ago) link

I get the complaint that some find EW&F too glossy but ... um ... I don't know how to tell you guys this, but ... this is a disco poll.

Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Monday, 16 December 2013 22:50 (ten years ago) link

Is there such a thing as lo-fi, distortion-heavy disco?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 December 2013 23:01 (ten years ago) link

Under my garage.

Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Monday, 16 December 2013 23:07 (ten years ago) link

maybe some Ze stuff could qualify as lo-fi, distortion-heavy disco?

Merdeyeux, Monday, 16 December 2013 23:16 (ten years ago) link

my #1 has yet to place and i think (hope) it will and it is def more low-fi than most of the last 20 to show up

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Monday, 16 December 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link


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