why does black people never want to nerd
― lag∞n, Sunday, 15 December 2013 20:09 (ten years ago) link
i mean for fucks sake this is the Weeknd's recent stage show
http://assets.noisey.com/content-images/contentimage/18111/radio%20city%20music%20hall%20the%20weeknd%20cartoon%20cats.jpg
― tuostprophets (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 15 December 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link
ffs
― lag∞n, Sunday, 15 December 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link
I remember being so surprised at first and feeling kind of ashamed that I was, but especially back when I first started we were still getting more letters still so you could see the postmarks and kids would send pictures because we were still doing a reader top 5 in the magazine each month
― My Chief Keef Keef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 15 December 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link
Good to know that "co-opting" is going the way of "slut-shaming" via overuse, like it can be applied to anime now?
― Murgatroid, Sunday, 15 December 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link
see whiney if i were you the defensive posture i wouldve taken is that you were appropriating kitty prides pov re anime culture
― lag∞n, Sunday, 15 December 2013 20:12 (ten years ago) link
ha
― tuostprophets (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 15 December 2013 20:12 (ten years ago) link
It's really cracking me up that in her long earnest apology she still messes up the name and says "Annie Mae" instead of "Anna Mae"
she had to apologize for not getting Jay-Z's spousal abuse joke?
― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Sunday, 15 December 2013 20:18 (ten years ago) link
of course black people watch animes, but it's definitely white hipsters leading the charge in co-opting anime imagery for their art in 2013: i.e., Elite Gymnastics/Dead Girlfriends, Laurel Halo, Oneohtrix Point Never, etcI mean, yeah Chris Breezy will drop a single cover now and then, but anime/j-pop/etc seems like a very integral part of the predominately white Tumblr-electronics world that Kitty Pryde is assuredly familiar with
I mean, yeah Chris Breezy will drop a single cover now and then, but anime/j-pop/etc seems like a very integral part of the predominately white Tumblr-electronics world that Kitty Pryde is assuredly familiar with
What happened to your phrase tumblr white
Why is it now tumblr electronics
― 乒乓, Sunday, 15 December 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link
That blog post isn't really hard to understand
I understand that it's fucking terrible
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 15 December 2013 20:26 (ten years ago) link
whiney bringing very intense demographic research to the table here
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 15 December 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link
lol
― balls, Sunday, 15 December 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link
of course black people watch animes, but it's definitely white hipsters leading the charge in co-opting anime imagery for their art in 2013: i.e., Elite Gymnastics/Dead Girlfriends, Laurel Halo, Oneohtrix Point Never, etc
lol john zorn fan
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 15 December 2013 21:37 (ten years ago) link
white critic who's made his career defining what is and isn't real black culture while working at places that don't hire blacks
― balls, Sunday, December 15, 2013 11:17 AM (3 hours ago)
balls deep
― CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Sunday, 15 December 2013 22:49 (ten years ago) link
still dont understand why there isnt a tumblr of anime gifs + lyrics from this album yet
― max, Sunday, 15 December 2013 23:49 (ten years ago) link
eva unit 02 in battle macro'd w/ I WOKE UP LIKE THIS I WOKE UP LIKE THIS
― max, Sunday, 15 December 2013 23:50 (ten years ago) link
These things take time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8OIYZaOBho
― 乒乓, Sunday, 15 December 2013 23:52 (ten years ago) link
Really struggling to care about any of this
Kitty pryde is the worst tho obv
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 15 December 2013 23:58 (ten years ago) link
in retrospect, i feel bad for ever having suggested otherwise
― CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Sunday, 15 December 2013 23:59 (ten years ago) link
vice magazine still the worst, before kitty pryde there was momus
― balls, Monday, 16 December 2013 00:09 (ten years ago) link
her apology essay on tumblr was pretty decent, esp considering she's like 18 or something
― da croupier, Monday, 16 December 2013 00:48 (ten years ago) link
the rise of noisey may actualy be the single worst thing about music in 2013
― papa smango (fadanuf4erybody), Monday, 16 December 2013 00:59 (ten years ago) link
she's almost 22 but hey
― Mark, Monday, 16 December 2013 01:14 (ten years ago) link
ha yeah i had no idea for sure
― da croupier, Monday, 16 December 2013 01:15 (ten years ago) link
― balls, Sunday, December 15, 2013 6:09 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― mh, Monday, 16 December 2013 01:50 (ten years ago) link
I love whiney's comment about black people appropriating anime via white people backtracking, conclusively proven by instances of black artists using anime-like imagery
― mh, Monday, 16 December 2013 01:51 (ten years ago) link
unrelated but w/e
― tuostprophets (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 16 December 2013 01:58 (ten years ago) link
if i have to spell it out, there's
A) black artists influenced by anime (kanye, chris breezy, waka's "bitch call me goku", my diamonds they say pikachu, they say pikachu) because it's a popular cultural artifact like anything else
B) And then there's a specific form of predominatelty white post-Altered Zones Tumblr electronic musician (ie, OPN, Elite Gs, Laurel Halo et al), who use anime imagery for trangression/internet points/#feels that predated like Flatbush Zombies or w/e.
I might have been projecting, but I assumed Kitty Pryde was excited that Jay-Z said "anime" because he was slumming in it her world of Young Tumblr people, just like the entire blogoverse shit their pants when Jay Z showed up at a Grizzly Bear show like that validated a predominately white scene
― tuostprophets (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 16 December 2013 02:07 (ten years ago) link
sorry i brought up race in the kitty pryde thread, it won't happen again
― tuostprophets (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 16 December 2013 02:08 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMaSh20qBbg
― balls, Monday, 16 December 2013 02:18 (ten years ago) link
Whiney did you ever watch any anime growing up
Have you ever played Pokemon
― 乒乓, Monday, 16 December 2013 02:24 (ten years ago) link
whiney you're completely talking out of your ass
fyi
it's as simple as that
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 16 December 2013 02:30 (ten years ago) link
whiney doing some sort of dumbed down megyn kelly routine now
― balls, Monday, 16 December 2013 02:36 (ten years ago) link
let's change the subject for no reasonhttps://medium.com/facts-only/b7deb1cb614c
― Strangers look on with a discernible, barely contained ‘wow’. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 16 December 2013 02:44 (ten years ago) link
like there's a dozen different places that would better belong, in the medium thread maybe but this one keeps popping up in my bookmarks
― Strangers look on with a discernible, barely contained ‘wow’. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 16 December 2013 02:47 (ten years ago) link
um, i didn't get the sense that kitty pryde was "freaking out" about the anime thing because it validated her own cultural existence
i think it was entirely "lol this old rapper sounds like a total weirdo trying to make a reference to a cultural phenomenon two decades removed from his own generation"
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 16 December 2013 04:07 (ten years ago) link
like, pretty much a default pre-25 y/o reaction to anything. i prob do it all the time \(o_O)/
the funny thing to me is that she didn't stop for a second and consider if "eat the cake/anime" made any sense at all then think about what else the line could've meant
aka people probably shouldn't consent to having unedited liveblogs posted to web sites with millions of monthly uniques
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 16 December 2013 04:13 (ten years ago) link
"A cultural phenomenon two decades removed from his own generation" how new do you think anime is
― da croupier, Monday, 16 December 2013 04:15 (ten years ago) link
i thought he was talking about shanghai express
― CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Monday, 16 December 2013 04:25 (ten years ago) link
we had our robotech and what not but anime as a thing that lots of americans are into def seems like a millennial thing
― lag∞n, Monday, 16 December 2013 04:27 (ten years ago) link
i mean adjust the timeline for however you see fit, i think my point stands
btw i know literally nothing about anime so i'm generalizing
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 16 December 2013 04:28 (ten years ago) link
its ok u can tell us abt ur anime
― lag∞n, Monday, 16 December 2013 04:29 (ten years ago) link
― lag∞n, Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:27 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
really? i think it goes back a decade further, that's when I started seeing huge all-anime sections in video stores etc.
― extraterrestrial★squad (amateurist), Monday, 16 December 2013 04:59 (ten years ago) link
i think perhaps the cultural associations around anime have shifted, as cultural associations are wont to do, but I'd say anime fandom was a notable subculture in the 90s/early 00s (i.e. when kitty pryde was a zygote/urchin)
― extraterrestrial★squad (amateurist), Monday, 16 December 2013 05:00 (ten years ago) link
come on dude
opn released a shitty video someone directed for him that was a weak satire of negative stereotypes about people who like anime, not a celebration of it or an attempt to score internet points by using anime aesthetics, laurel halo had an album cover with japanese schoolgirls committing harikari on it that didn't really have anything to do with anime
there is no art-tumblr internet anime appreciation cognoscenti, kitty/hemsworth/friendzone pokemon namedrops on twitter are just representative of the wider cultural penetration of 4chan and video games as a general thing
adult swim on cartoon network shows anime shows, the odd future show, and the boondocks which is literally an anime show about black culture and rap, to suggest that a bunch of obscure white electronic musicians most people have never heard of have a monopoly on anime references is just a completely bizarre new york internet music writer echo chamber bullshit assertion to make
but i guess this is the kitty pryde thread so whatever i mean if there wasn't a new york internet music writer echo chamber this thread wouldn't even be here
― james brooks, Monday, 16 December 2013 05:20 (ten years ago) link
sick burns of endearment
― rhyme heals all goons (m bison), Monday, 16 December 2013 05:22 (ten years ago) link
this clusterfuck really isnt deserving of anyone's time
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 16 December 2013 06:45 (ten years ago) link
james, i would argue back, but it's basically the whole "Did Rihanna steal #seapunk's aesthetic" argument for a hypothetical Jay Z line that doesn't actually exist anywhere but as a mondegreen on a Noisey liveblog
let's all just bump this and call it a night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovA6iPznvzw
― tuostprophets (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 16 December 2013 06:51 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9aWPTCc2r0
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, 16 December 2013 15:14 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGBhQbmPwH8