Vampire Weekend; Arctic Monkeys of 2008?

sry chakhead j/k - but no i dont think its v ska - also i have no idea what 3rd wave ska is

listen to the song "boston" by vampire weekend. that is 3rd wave ska.

but what of the horns and jumping?

they were jumping when they were recording that song. horns are not needed in 3rd wave ska.

but, to make up for it, 4th wave ska is played by the entire brass section of a minor philharmonic

Yes, VW does do some straight up ska, but it's more 2 Tone than anything.

LOL @ jhøshea's idea of ska being solely fueled by the kids who wore JNCO pants at his high school.

its more like 1/2 assed.

its my personal belief that people who know abt the different types of ska should just sit quietly in the corner until called upon

your beliefs are also 1/2 assed.

the people in my high school who were into ska wore little suits and rode around on scooters

did you go to school in japan?

http://us.ent1.yimg.com/images.launch.yahoo.com/000/026/736/26736298.jpg

uuugh

yes that is the type of music your precious vampire weekend play. face it, asshole!

lol chak

wtf are you in denial or something?

A lot of indie kids are these days. They don't want to admit that some of their most fave bands over the last four, five years have much in common with jam band culture, ska, Ween, TMBG, and other frat-hippie classics.

i went to high school w/those very guys there

I don't hear anything ska-ish except very vaguely on, yeah, "Ladies of Cambridge." Call it standard-lowering if you want, but I just appreciate hearing an airy indie-pop record that has as much rhythmic flexibility as they do, the way they can slide from rhythm to rhythm within a song -- like "Bryn," which starts out with 6-beat bars and then drops over into a straight 6/8. (That might be the wrong way to put it.) Which isn't, you know, rocket surgery, but it's a good habit for them to have.

Part of why I don't entirely dig the addition of "I Stand Corrected" is that it skews way further in a building 8th-note Strokes-pop direction; it's a perfectly likable song, but if they wrote like that all the time, I wouldn't be able to listen to them nearly as often.

nabisco you dont hear anything "ska-ish" on the song boston? you are not that dense. fwiw i kind of love Sublime.

listen to the song "boston" by vampire weekend. that is 3rd wave ska.

it's called "ladies of cambridge." it's not on the album.

oh

they renamed it to make it doubly preppy-sounding.

dreaming of boston is a total downer

i live in cambridge so fucking thanks, vampdire weakend.

And "A-Punk" is ska in a Police way.

haha chaki u mad again

boston is way more preppy than cambridge massachusetts which is waht theyre talking abt

I didn't even notice the great line in Bryn until this chick pointed it out - http://media.www.michigandaily.com/media/storage/paper851/news/2008/01/29/Music/Preppy.Sure.But.Who.Cares-3173537.shtml

max dude DO NOT f w/chakis ska trust me

P.S. QN I don't know many indie kids who would have much problem with Ween and TMBG associations -- I don't know about the really young ones, but those two are standard middle-school / high-school / college listening for plenty of indie non-kids.

Also the "four/five" years bit is weird -- the done thing in the 90s was to call out post-rock for being not THAT different from listening to jam bands or Medeski Martin & Wood or whatever, and the past four/five years have been well past the point where the indie masses turned off on all things Tortoise-like

xpost - yeah Chaki we are talking about the same song, Boston/Cambridge. You could call that kinda ska-ish, sure. I just can't remember hearing that sort of thing anywhere else on this, though -- lemme try and think over it

is it funnier to call a faux mighty mighty bosstones song 'boston' or 'ladies of cambridge'?

def boston

maybe the lyric should have been about 'the middle east'

"A-Punk" is the only song that sounds ska to me.

good use of scare-quotes

xpost

If the keyboard player were Ethiopian instead of Persian, his last name would mean SON OF BATMANG

xpost - wait, yes, I see what you guys mean -- "A-Punk" is like two-tone without the upstrokes, yes

max i dont think you understand my posting style at all because i am rarely mad about anything. god.

you come from 'cambridge', xxp

I like the album a lot, but when they're not using specifically W. African-y elements the clean guitar and rhythmic sensibility reminds me more directly of a lot now-forgotten ska bands I saw in Jr. High School than an indie-juju hybrid.

I Stand Corrected isn't musically all that exciting, but it's a pretty buttoned-up lyric too.

african music /= juju

'newton'

I think these dudes are honestly the same dorks in high school/college who still play 9th-wave-ska 10 years after the fact, but somehow they've been able brand their style Little Miss Sunshine/Wes Anderson indie lite.

No shit, gabbneb. The African elements remind of juju more than any other African genre I'm familiar with (I'm not trying to argue this point, just explaining) and I wanted to be more specific than "African music".

tell me there is not a 9th wave of ska

I'm assuming Boston/Cambridge got cut from the record for just sounding awfully lightweight -- I can't decide if it's good or bad that this means losing the funny bit at the end where he goes all Rick Moody with "a morbid streak runs through the whole of my family." It's probably for the best: that's like one of those Morrissey things where it's amusing if you like them, Stab Him Please if you don't.

We should turn this thread into another classic ILX "who knows more about world music" pissing contest.

CHAKI I DONT THINK U UNDERSTAND MY POSTING STYLE BECAUSE SHEESH

xp: I'm hardly trying to start a pissing contest; I have pretty limited knowledge of "world music", it just seems like referring to African music in this context could lead to including all sorts of things that don't really have much to do with VW specifically.

isn't world music what you listened to in the 80s after breaking in your new "cappuccino machine"?