How many times is Godzilla going to be rebooted? 2014 edition

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I'm on board

it's going to be a (latebloomer), Friday, 13 December 2013 01:20 (seven years ago) link

Godzilla always ruled because he was a role model for fat, pear-shaped schlubs everywhere. You can change the world while still being sluggish and having horrible breath.

it's going to be a (latebloomer), Friday, 13 December 2013 01:22 (seven years ago) link

Or maybe being so big you knock shit down just by turning around? I don't think Godzilla can see his feet, either.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 December 2013 01:27 (seven years ago) link

And don't even get me started on this pudge monster:

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 December 2013 01:28 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

Does this Godzilla seem even more giant than previous Godzillas? And also, would a creature that size even be able to exist in an environment with Earth's gravity?

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 20 February 2014 22:26 (seven years ago) link

Monsters is a great, great movie. So I'm looking forward to this on that alone.

akm, Thursday, 20 February 2014 22:35 (seven years ago) link

And also, would a creature that size even be able to exist in an environment with Earth's gravity?

Probably not. As I vaguely recall from my biology and physics, if you double the size of something, its muscle strength squares, but its volume/mass cubes, so the muscles are no longer strong enough to support the body (this is why insects/spiders don't come in sizes bigger than they currently do--if they got much bigger their exoskeleton weighs more than their limbs can support). Given the vaguely humanoid sjhape of Godzilla, he'd be fucked.

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Thursday, 20 February 2014 23:50 (seven years ago) link

But yeah, Monsters was wonderful.

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Thursday, 20 February 2014 23:50 (seven years ago) link

AIDS (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 20 February 2014 23:51 (seven years ago) link


faith driven consumer (latebloomer), Friday, 21 February 2014 01:27 (seven years ago) link

that trailer looks amazing up top. never saw the 1998 one. i'm guessing it wasn't much good?

piscesx, Friday, 21 February 2014 03:43 (seven years ago) link

You guess correct. It's not even bad in a fun way.

Simon H., Friday, 21 February 2014 03:52 (seven years ago) link

the way the 98 one bombed was wonderful

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 21 February 2014 04:24 (seven years ago) link

AIDS (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 21:10 (seven years ago) link

If you would have told me back in, say 2001, that we'd have another Godzilla reboot starring Malcolm's dad and the Olsen's twins kid sister...

an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 21:16 (seven years ago) link

this looks great.

ryan, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 21:20 (seven years ago) link

Looks surprisingly good.

lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 21:24 (seven years ago) link

Like the use of Ligeti. Hoping this turns out to be a Rise of the Apes-style classy update.

Simon H., Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:00 (seven years ago) link

Interest building....

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:03 (seven years ago) link

Does Godzilla make airplanes fall out of the sky or something?

jmm, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:04 (seven years ago) link

why does the statue of liberty look so fake

PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:09 (seven years ago) link

did you see the desert mountains in the background

AIDS (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:22 (seven years ago) link

i know it was going for a way different vibe, but i hope this can provide the monster-destroying-city action that Pacific Rim was woefully short on.

ryan, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:29 (seven years ago) link

commercial's great, that's for sure. better to only hint at the monster (like with the rising ocean), or show it for a second or two.

30 years later, and the techniques used in jaws still hold true.

Daniel, Esq 2, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:31 (seven years ago) link

looks great. don't know why but remakes of franchise movies like this bother me so much less than remakes of stand alone films (point break ,oldboy etc)

TheMenzies, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:35 (seven years ago) link

I like they they've kept him tied (it seems) to the post-WW2 nuclear age.

ryan, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:38 (seven years ago) link

yeah, is that vegas?

idk, i'm in. why not? monsters was really good, good cast here.

goole, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:39 (seven years ago) link

not sure the other "viral" marketing video they've released -- the godzilla "roar" -- is as effective.

meh. the "roar" video wouldn't, of course, get the rare "5 out of 5 schmoes" that the official trailer did.

Daniel, Esq 2, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:40 (seven years ago) link

So, is there much talk of what this will be about ? Trailer implies Godzilla vs something ... some flying thing? Some tentacle thing? Both?

Weird how poor some of the effects look in the trailer (such as the wave carrying ships towards the camera) but I guess this is something they'll be rendering till just before release. Can't say I'm excited, but this did make me curious about a movie I until now assumed I wouldn't watch. The opening shots were good (corked traffic & crashed plane; tumbling buildings & origami birds)

Actually, went back now and it does seems to be some avian creature. There's a shot at 1:30 of guys aiming their guns up at a large, descending silhouette, then a shot of something — presumably the same thing — slipping into the ocean between a couple of crashing airplanes.

Øystein, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 00:03 (seven years ago) link

i liked the wave!

Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 00:05 (seven years ago) link

30 years later, and the techniques used in jaws still hold true.

― Daniel, Esq 2, Tuesday, February 25, 2014 6:31 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark

haha well i'd argue it doesnt hold true at all for daikaiju films... but this is just advertising and it looks like a good approach for what they're doing

i laughed (in a good way) at the line that was like 'the nuclear tests from 1954... they weren't tests, they were trying to kill it!!!'

AIDS (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 00:09 (seven years ago) link

Is that Ligetti music the same as the one in 2001.. i'm sure it is? Also a quick flash of Geiger/Alien vibes at 1 point.

piscesx, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 00:41 (seven years ago) link


AIDS (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 00:42 (seven years ago) link

This looks really cool

faith driven consumer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 02:49 (seven years ago) link

Usually my rule of thumb is the cooler the trailer looks, the more disappointing the final film will be. But as long as they keep a lot of the surprises under wraps, and as long as what we see looks, visually, like something the guy who did "Monsters" did - which this does - I'm happy. Mentioned it upthread and will mention it again, but what made "Monsters" special (imo) is how well-written and acted the people stuff was, especially for a movie called "Monsters." Looking forward to seeing the guy pull it off again on a much larger scale.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 14:20 (seven years ago) link

Really hope those miniature Mothra twins make a cameo

faith driven consumer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 14:44 (seven years ago) link

This actually looks kinda okay! Reasonably sold on it as a 'terrifying beast smashes things' movie, and I think I saw Maggie Gyllenhaal in there so I'm in.

It'd be great if it had a strong 'idea' hook too - I mean it's obvious but the original Gojira from the Fifties was actually a, like, good movie (some slow talky scenes aside) with all kinds of resonances in post-Occupation Japan - the trauma of bomb devastation re-enacted, the useless government, the shaky faith in technical progress, an attempt to rehabilitate doomsday weapons by binding them with old-school honor/guilt, etc.... Obviously it'd be easy to do this as 9/11 stuff but frankly that's been done to death in the genre of building-destruction porn and anyway it's been a while, they should find some new anxieties to really tap into. Global warming/wild weather stuff, maybe. I guess that's why I really like the 'mostly smoke' aspect of this, seems less about wrenching every last drop of suppressed sublimation out of the WTC attacks. Could be quickly proven wrong obv. But it would be cool if this touched some nerves.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 15:02 (seven years ago) link

There was a lot of metaphor and whatnot swimming around "Monsters," too, but I don't want to spoil that movie for anyone who hasn't seen it yet.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 15:04 (seven years ago) link

did you see the desert mountains in the background
― AIDS (Hungry4Ass)

so this is las vegas?

PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 15:09 (seven years ago) link

It would be awesome of Godzilla is not as big as the posters make it seem, and that it's just him destroying Vegas.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 15:15 (seven years ago) link

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 15:16 (seven years ago) link

It seems really strange to recycle that Ligetti piece ... its association with 2001 is so strong

maybe the assumption is that no one seeing a Godzilla movie in 2014 is old enough to have seen 2001?

Brad C., Wednesday, 26 February 2014 15:42 (seven years ago) link

I'm pretty sure they just picked it because it sounds cool. Trailers use music from other movies all the time. Original scores are rarely done until fairly close to release.

faith driven consumer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 16:28 (seven years ago) link

key target audience of godzilla in 2014 was BORN in 2001
**mind blown**

PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 16:41 (seven years ago) link

I'd rather they reuse Ligetti than the damn airhorn noise from "Inception." Again.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 17:05 (seven years ago) link

iirc the Ligeti and other classical pieces in 2001 were originally temporary music, Kubrick kept them in after he decided he hated Alex North's score

too bad Kubrick never directed a Godzilla reboot

Brad C., Wednesday, 26 February 2014 17:29 (seven years ago) link

still kinda O_O at how fucking HUGE this godzilla is

it's like nine times huger than any other one I've seen. exciting!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 17:48 (seven years ago) link

The casting of this film is so incongruous for a hollywood blockbuster that I love it. I mean Juliette Binoche, Sally Hawkins, and Martha Marcy May Olsen are like an art house goddess triumvirate. "Monsters" was an ace scifi that cost famously all of $500,000. This is Edward's only other gig and was reportedly made for $160 million. how the hell does that happen? Especially after the dreck that was the 1998 film.

danzig, Thursday, 27 February 2014 00:24 (seven years ago) link

still kinda O_O at how fucking HUGE this godzilla is

it's like nine times huger than any other one I've seen. exciting!

I love love love that you went with "nine times huger" instead of ten. Seriously awesome.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 27 February 2014 00:30 (seven years ago) link

i don't recall the last time everyone on ilx got psyched for a blockbuster type movie that wasn't a Batman. must be years anyway.

piscesx, Thursday, 27 February 2014 02:11 (seven years ago) link

The Godzilla one with Cranston has some good moments, Skull Island is probably my favorite of all of these and actually fun in a way the recent Godzilla movies never are, because they’re positioned as being more about loss and human drama.

Godzilla: King of the Monsters has a handful of fun moments, mostly contained in the monster battles, and a very thin selection of interesting human moments. Ken Watanabe and Vera Farmiga get some good bits, and don’t appear in GvK for (no spoilers) plot reasons from that movie. I have no idea why they shoehorned in MBB and Kyle Chandler into this new one, because the former has motivations that could have been any stock character and Chandler’s given absolutely zero to work with and his scenes just exist to suck the air out of the room. Brian Tyree Henry’s character seems like they wanted to cast Craig Robison and have him ad lib half the lines. All the material he has to work with his kind of boilerplate

For some reason, the bit that bugged me the most was the big evil corporation having all this highly advanced technology when this seems to take place in the present or at most the near future. The other ones didn’t really do that, and. now we’ve got these electromagnetic antigravity ships?

mh, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 16:08 (one month ago) link

What do they have against gravity, anyway?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 16:11 (one month ago) link

why do I suddenly feel like I’m drinking coffee in a car

mh, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 16:13 (one month ago) link

the (hopefully) best thing about watching GZvK is that it has motivated me to have a go at Shin Godzilla now

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 16:18 (one month ago) link

Shin Godzilla is great, but also a completely different type of movie than this run of new big budget Godzilla films. It's basically a drama about government bureaucracy with incidental Godzilla mayhem.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 16:23 (one month ago) link

Where did Tyree, MBB and Julian sneak onto the maglev subway? Florida? I could handle the giant monsters fine, but given that Seattle took 6 years to bore out the two mile Highway 99 tunnel, my brain tangented to "when/how did they build a FL to Hong Kong subway?" If there are secret societies amongst us, they are excellent at construction projects.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 16:27 (one month ago) link

one of the constant brain breakers about this film for me was the juxtaposition of an international super-science team that has the wherewithal to figure out how to basically lift the Ever Given with a big net and a fleet of jumbo helicopters in the space of a few hours but can't keep a seven year old from wandering on to the deck of an airplane carrieer
or the amoral capitalist tesla (basically just tesla) company that creates an underground maglev supertrain from Florida to Hong Kong but doesn't take the time to check the cargo in its monster egg transports
etc ad infinitum

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 16:38 (one month ago) link

basically everyone sees the tech for the first time when they start using it, no one has a user's manual but everyone knows where the seatbelts are

evil capitalist guy and his evil capitalist daughter are incredibly unnecessarily stupid in the approach and execution of their goals and both die for laughs in the same stupid kind of "UH OH" sequences

i dunno, i think i'll remember this film much more than mank (and it's not much worse!) but i wish i hadn't bothered

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 16:41 (one month ago) link

I literally have no memory of an evil capitalist guy death scene. The daughter (who we kept calling Khloe Kardashian), what a stupid pointless drama free death that was, even for a stupid pointless character.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 17:02 (one month ago) link

that guy’s death scene was one of the few times I laughed, not because of the highly choreographed death, but because of another character saying “I really wanted to hear the rest of his speech!”

mh, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 17:08 (one month ago) link

the role of The Other Kid played by Julian Dennison was really the most memorable character outside of the monsters

mh, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 17:12 (one month ago) link

the cute deaf girl might lead him a little in plot relevance and screen time, though

mh, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 17:13 (one month ago) link

biggest wtf plot thing for me was the business with ghidorah's skull having psychic powers? why not have it be his brain? was very confused by all that until i realized they were just positing that the skull also works like a brain (i guess?)

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 17:37 (one month ago) link

by far the best "i wanted to hear the rest of his speech" death scene in movie history is this one, everything else is just copying the master

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 19:32 (one month ago) link

Elon Musk dude must have died when I was in the bathroom during that same minute that Mechagodzilla went rogue.

Question: if Musk could have made a giant robot, why did he decide on the form of a robot Godzilla? Lack of creativity, imo.

Meanwhile, how are they going to fill and plug the giant Kong-sized (plot) hole that runs from the center of the earth to Hong Kong?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 20:01 (one month ago) link

thoughts thoughts thoughts
• forks otm, no question that is the GOAT of unfinished speeches
• much like recent star wars, the first thing I thought on seeing the cybernetics office park with its own nuclear reactor was "okay where are they getting the money? let's talk cash flows..."
• this had the unexpected effect of inoculating me from disbelief by the time we got to the Florida to HK tunnel bc sure lol why not nothing matters
• feel like no one here is giving sufficient weight to the sheer edgar rice burroughs-ass majesty of the GODDAMN THRONE

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 00:53 (one month ago) link

the throne (and the throneroom) in particular is one of the places where i felt like the design was tastefully lazy. they basically went for brown fortress of solitude.

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 01:14 (one month ago) link

Who built those stairs?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 02:21 (one month ago) link

serf kong

voodoo chili, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 16:02 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

watching this at the request of kids, I have no interest at all in action movies / sequences, but have do say that the dialogue is fucking appalling here. maybe all of these films are like this though, idk

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 25 April 2021 17:10 (one week ago) link

Man, tough crowd. What did you even expect a giant monkey or fire-breathing lizard to say, anyway?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 25 April 2021 17:29 (one week ago) link

something about supply-side economics

Filibuster Poindexter (Neanderthal), Sunday, 25 April 2021 17:41 (one week ago) link

someone was spouting stuff about mind control via fluoride in the water, don't think it was one of the monsters

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 25 April 2021 17:47 (one week ago) link


Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 25 April 2021 22:33 (one week ago) link

Monkeys have tails, apes don't. Kong is an ape fwiw.

Okay, I'll shut up now.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 April 2021 04:01 (one week ago) link

If Kong can be a one-off ape the size of a skyscraper then he can also be a one-off giant monkey without a tail. That's just science.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 April 2021 12:35 (one week ago) link

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