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I think I'm obsessed with the sprawling hot mess that is this track. The "you are not alone" sample drop at like 10:30 is so hilarious. "There's something out there..." And the concluding dialogue at the end of being transgendered? So the theme is like a Walt Disney meets hardcore continuum Christmas coming out prog-opera?

MikoMcha, Thursday, 12 December 2013 14:15 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, this track. I'm inspired to write some Come Down To Us fan fiction.

If anything, it counters some of the more tasteful, selective nostalgia for the nuum.

MikoMcha, Thursday, 12 December 2013 14:30 (ten years ago) link

This whole queer aspect of the EP, this is really an unexpected turn right? It's like Burial meets DJ Sprinkles.

MikoMcha, Thursday, 12 December 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link

Is the sample of the transgendered person at the end the same person that is sampled on the last track on his debut "I went in to the bathroom to get some aspirin and I happened to look in the mirror and I swear to God I see something that I can't describe but it sure as hell is not my reflection"?

Rotating prince game (I am using your worlds), Thursday, 12 December 2013 18:09 (ten years ago) link

It's like Burial meets DJ Sprinkles.

sounds like a great music combination, actually.

Daniel, Esq 2, Thursday, 12 December 2013 18:15 (ten years ago) link

The transgendered person talking is Lana Wachowski, Don't think she appeared on the s/t.

mums go off when i enter the building (monotony), Thursday, 12 December 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link

idk and maybe this is a cross-post w/ the gender identity thread but the whole prospect of being trapped in a body that isn't "who you are" sounds deeply unsettling and fits w/ burial's project i think. the "other rooms, other worlds" bit at the end of Come Down To Us is key here-- giving voice to liminal states, androgynous voices/vocal samples where the gender is switched mid-sample, ~murkiness~ etc-- all this is old-hat burial stuff, only thing that's new here is a level of explicitness that has been missing from his catalog. or else is new to my ears at least.

kyenkyen, Thursday, 12 December 2013 19:22 (ten years ago) link

This is really not a good record. It is, however, awesome.

MikoMcha, Thursday, 12 December 2013 19:27 (ten years ago) link

its def goofy as hell, esp side B

kyenkyen, Thursday, 12 December 2013 19:35 (ten years ago) link

yeah I really don't know what to make of it

freemen (on the) space (seandalai), Thursday, 12 December 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link

Actually, the EP kind of has the high-gloss blockbuster camp of a Lana & Andy Wachowski production.

MikoMcha, Thursday, 12 December 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link

It's more divisive than I expected/some of my friends are less open minded than I thought.

StanM, Thursday, 12 December 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link

This is doing absolutely nothing for me, and I've always liked if not loved everything before.

boxedjoy, Friday, 13 December 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link

facebook notification sound

deeja entendu (wins), Friday, 13 December 2013 21:29 (ten years ago) link

lol

deeja entendu (wins), Friday, 13 December 2013 21:29 (ten years ago) link

here's my take:
http://crackmagazine.net/music/burial/

the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Saturday, 14 December 2013 12:05 (ten years ago) link

nicely done. review also prompted me to seek-out this website, which identifies samples used in songs, posts clips of both songs and pinpoints the sampled moment in both of them.

would never have guessed that the stone-roses were sampled in ashtray wasp.

Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 14 December 2013 12:51 (ten years ago) link

burial sent a message to a bbc 6 show about the rival-dealer ep:

I put my heart into the new EP, I hope someone likes it. I wanted the tunes to be anti-bullying tunes that could maybe help someone to believe in themselves, to not be afraid, and to not give up, and to know that someone out there cares and is looking out for them.

Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 14 December 2013 13:03 (ten years ago) link

A+ review Dwight Yorke (unexpected major spelling breakdown (two words?) in the first line of the last paragraph though?)

StanM, Saturday, 14 December 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link

https://soundcloud.com/beriel4furtit2k13/rivel-beriel

StanM, Saturday, 14 December 2013 16:55 (ten years ago) link

http://cdn.hiphopwired.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/beyonce-cover-500x500.jpg http://waws-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/2013/12/Burial-Rival-Dealer-1.jpg

design twins, nearly. both fond of surprise december releases. they should do an album together.

Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 14 December 2013 17:03 (ten years ago) link

I would actually love them to.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 14 December 2013 17:16 (ten years ago) link

beyrial

mh, Saturday, 14 December 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link

This EP is fucking amazing imo. Got a really nihilistic pissed up feel to it. Post-nightbus.

ewar woowar (or something), Monday, 16 December 2013 01:20 (ten years ago) link

beyrial

― mh, Saturday, December 14, 2013 12:55 PM (Yesterday)

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 December 2013 01:21 (ten years ago) link

blasted this in the car for the first time yesterday evening. title track sounded mindblowing at loud volume. really might be the best thing i've heard all year.

funny how december -- normally a "dead zone" for new music releases -- was among the strongest months for new music in 2013.

Daniel, Esq 2, Monday, 16 December 2013 01:25 (ten years ago) link

also

beyrial

― mh, Saturday, December 14, 2013 12:55 PM (Yesterday)

― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, December 15, 2013

Daniel, Esq 2, Monday, 16 December 2013 01:26 (ten years ago) link

Listening to this for the first time now. You really know an artists is a critically overindulged one-trick pony when a change of sound this minor is hailed as a controversial left turn.

Matt DC, Friday, 20 December 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link

Nobody forced you to like him or click on this thread, or did they?

StanM, Friday, 20 December 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link

critically overindulged one-trick pony vs. having a totally focused, identifiable, and hugely influential style

festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 20 December 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link

damn this is still amazing. the few-second stretch on the title-track, just around the 1:00 mark, where the song's main riff is kinda audible, but slurred and submerged, then jumps to the forefront and locks in, is brilliant.

Daniel, Esq 2, Thursday, 2 January 2014 02:36 (ten years ago) link

Nobody forced you to like him or click on this thread, or did they?

Sorry, didn't realise this was only a thread for positive comments. FWIW I do like Burial, or some of his stuff at least, but he is very indulged and granted a level of reverence that 99% of producers aren't, even when he's being lazy or uninspired or just a bit crap, and the tracks here don't represent anywhere near as much of a curveball as is being claimed in some quarters.

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 January 2014 13:27 (ten years ago) link

you're right. should've thrown every identifiable aspect of his sound out. these tracks, especially the b-side, sound nothing like anything else he's done. i don't see where you are getting that vibe from it. you don't have to like it, but that doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

illegalblues, Thursday, 2 January 2014 16:17 (ten years ago) link

I've accused Burial of being a one-trick pony in the past, but I felt like the new single was making a big statement even before he came out with his statement about bullying. The sample choices and way they're used are extra evocative on this release. I think he's getting better with time and I'd rather play his last 2 eps than his first album at this point.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 2 January 2014 16:24 (ten years ago) link

the tracks here don't represent anywhere near as much of a curveball as is being claimed in some quarters

no, but it's a noticeable change, just like his experimenting with very long pieces, with several movements, was a noticeable change, just like his moving into more propulsive, upbeat tunes (with four-tet) was, at the time, a noticeable change. i don't mind him mining his signature-sound, especially since he is moving it around, albeit incrementally. i actually prefer this to the genre-hopping you see with some artists (including my beloved r.e.m., who developed and discarded several signature-sounds, and kinda hung around other genres for an album or so, with varying success).

Daniel, Esq 2, Thursday, 2 January 2014 16:48 (ten years ago) link

beyrial

― mh, Saturday, December 14, 2013 12:55 PM (Yesterday)

― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, December 16, 2013 1:21 AM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

creating an ilHOOSion usic sight and sound (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 2 January 2014 16:50 (ten years ago) link

Matt: I totally understand when people say they don't like something and they can explain why they don't like it, but that "critically overindulged one-trick pony" was the thing that I didn't get and I took it as "let's troll the fanboys by insulting them"

StanM, Thursday, 2 January 2014 16:52 (ten years ago) link

http://soundcloud.com/hypertrap

^_^

mh, Thursday, 2 January 2014 16:57 (ten years ago) link

Pretty clear to me that the latest EP counts as mixing things up...I just don't think it works as well as the previous one, too "obvious" and latter-M83-y. Nothing wrong with trying something new though, I'll still be as keen for the next one.

freemen (on the) space (seandalai), Thursday, 2 January 2014 18:21 (ten years ago) link

Stan I was eyerolling at FACT magazine etc, not anyone on this thread.

I don't really like it for roughly the same reason as Local Garda, it's his usual sound with the addition of some other really out-of-place elements. The final part of one track just makes me think of Kate Winslet and Leo DiCaprio on the front of the night bus, it's reaching for this really cloying kind of emotional grandeur.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 January 2014 14:00 (ten years ago) link

eternal sunshine of the sinking ship?

mh, Friday, 3 January 2014 14:51 (ten years ago) link

wow. hm. stupid question, but since i actually might be interested in hearing this interview -- anyone know if that channel/program available streaming online? since i'm EST, it will probably air in the dead-of-night.

Daniel, Esq 2, Thursday, 16 January 2014 23:08 (ten years ago) link

It's on in 15 minutes...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_one

Number None, Thursday, 16 January 2014 23:44 (ten years ago) link

it was a simple lampoon

Number None, Friday, 17 January 2014 01:12 (ten years ago) link

i hate james blake now.

Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 17 January 2014 02:02 (ten years ago) link

(unless he's burial).

Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 17 January 2014 02:02 (ten years ago) link

Missed it, what happened?

StanM, Friday, 17 January 2014 02:41 (ten years ago) link

http://t.co/ZTH45eFmES

Fiddler on a hot tin roof (ed.b), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 22:21 (ten years ago) link

"critically overindulged one-trick pony"

I'd only vaguely heard of Burial before hearing it for the first time by accident, around the time of Untrue. But I can attest that if I'd heard all the talking about Burial before hearing the music I'd probably see him as overindulged too.

I've barely kept up with the writing about Burial since those days – am I right in thinking he's become a 'breakout artist' kind of, like how Aphex Twin finds his way into playlists and record collections and conversations that peers of Aphex wouldn't get into?

Don't think one-trick pony works though, too many different things going on across the records. It might all take place in a broken mirror but you get different pictures floating across it.

cardamon, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 05:09 (ten years ago) link


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