Star Trek: Classic or Dud?

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Nhex, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 00:00 (ten years ago) link

four weeks pass...

it's kind of insane how much vic fontaine there is in the last ds9 season. he's practically one of the crew! guess the writers were super into it or they had justify his set or something?

loved the ep where nog recedes into vic's holodeck fantasy world.

original bgm, Wednesday, 8 January 2014 23:40 (ten years ago) link

The Vic eps are by far my favorite holodeck/suite eps of any Star Trek series.

Jeff, Wednesday, 8 January 2014 23:44 (ten years ago) link

so I was playing Star Trek:TNG pinball with my daughter the other day and she was doing pretty well but in the middle of it she commented that she didn't recognize any of the characters, and who were all these people and why did it look different etc (she has only seen TOS). so I started to explain it to her but then I got self-conscious about how boring it sounded - I told her she could watch it but she probably wouldn't like it lol.

I just can't fully commit to these latter incarnations when it gets right down to it. they're just uglier and more boring and less fun than TOS. sorry.

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 23:50 (ten years ago) link

I mean what's up with the TNG color scheme anyway - all these teals and salmons and burgundys blech

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 23:50 (ten years ago) link

then got into extended debate with my wife about how any of the women pee in those stupid TNG onesies. conclusion was that they use the transporter to teleport urine directly out of their bladders into the ship's urine storage tanks.

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 23:52 (ten years ago) link

why would they store urine, in this scenario

lj. 'hoover' egads (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 23:53 (ten years ago) link

visually TOS is the clear winner, no argument here

original bgm, Wednesday, 8 January 2014 23:55 (ten years ago) link

You wouldn't want to fly into a blob of floating excreta at warp, I'd imagine.

Neil Nosepicker (Leee), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 23:55 (ten years ago) link

why would they store urine, in this scenario

what you want them to just piss into the vacuum of space? seems sort of counter to the Federation's principles

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 23:56 (ten years ago) link

maybe they don't have drinking water in space & everyone drinks pee on the regular

makes ut hink

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 23:56 (ten years ago) link

kinda dig how the terrible TNG/DS9 cg has dated

http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20051031112357/memoryalpha/en/images/2/2b/Odo_and_female_changeling.jpg

original bgm, Wednesday, 8 January 2014 23:57 (ten years ago) link

what happens to p in the future makes u rethra

lj. 'hoover' egads (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 23:58 (ten years ago) link

When you go to the bathroom on Earth, you are relying on gravity, pretty pretty heavily... imagine if you were halfway done and someone shut off the gravity, it would be a mess. And you'd float off the toilet. So, when we designed our space toilet, first it has to have a seat belt on it, to hold you down.

And then we decided to separate solids and liquids, 'cause they're easier to store that way. so we just have a tube for you to pee into, and it has air pulled into the tube, so it's not a big deal. For the women there's a cup fits up against them, for the guys it's just like a little funnel, you just pee into this tube and and it goes into a sewage tank.

But, the solids that come out of your body, that's a harder problem to solve, and it's an important medical one. 'Cause on Earth everything falls on the floor but in space it's going to float around, so it'll really make you sick. If you re-ingest something that came out of your body, it will really make you sick and we can't afford to get that sick.

So we designed a toilet so that instead of gravity pulling everything into the toilet it has air flow, there's air pulled down into the toilet, sort of windy when you're sitting there, but it pulls everything that comes out of your body.

Everything that's comes out of your body gets pulled down into the toilet by the air, and then in the storage tank we just expose that to the vacuum of space so it basically just freeze-dries everything, so it kills all the bacteria, so that there's no smell, and then we just store it.

And when you have a whole bunch of it stored, we put it into a little unmanned supply ship, and we undock it, and it burns up in the atmosphere. So the next time you see a beautiful shooting star going across the sky, that's what it might be.

- Chris Hadfield

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 23:59 (ten years ago) link

haleys comet of pee

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 23:59 (ten years ago) link

Urination is the process by which urine is disposed from the body through the urethra, in humanoids as well as certain other creatures. To pee or to "take a leak" are slangs originating from Earth referring to the act of urination.

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Urination

original bgm, Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:01 (ten years ago) link

or as they fine film APOLLO 13 called it: "Constellation U-Rine" xp

ian, Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:01 (ten years ago) link

For the women there's a cup fits up against them

yeah whatever show me where the cup goes on Troi's uniform for ex.

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:02 (ten years ago) link

^^^ your wife wouldn't mind?

ian, Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:04 (ten years ago) link

nah she's into it

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:04 (ten years ago) link

troi girls uni cup

lj. 'hoover' egads (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:05 (ten years ago) link

wait so they burn up a supply ship full of shit in the atmosphere

replicant otm, they have seen things i wouldnt believe

lj. 'hoover' egads (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:06 (ten years ago) link

but again, the question wasn't "where does waste go on a spaceship" it was more "why do the women wear onesies that they would have to completely remove to urinate/take a shit" cuz that is some fucking stupid uniform design right there. which was what I was getting at, it's just part of the general "this show looks terrible" deal.

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:06 (ten years ago) link

there's a lot could be installed underneath that uniform that we cant see

ok that's unlikely i'll admit

lj. 'hoover' egads (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:08 (ten years ago) link

they aren't stillsuits

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:10 (ten years ago) link

you are deiscarding however the possibility of a stoolslit

lj. 'hoover' egads (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:11 (ten years ago) link

fyi this exact conversation is why the internet still exists in 2014

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:12 (ten years ago) link

<3 u guys

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:13 (ten years ago) link

w/r/t troi, betazoids have different plumbing.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:13 (ten years ago) link

I dunno, need some closeups of the crotch design

xp

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:13 (ten years ago) link

HALF-Betazoid.

Neil Nosepicker (Leee), Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:14 (ten years ago) link

So I guess maybe only half her plumbing is different.

Neil Nosepicker (Leee), Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:14 (ten years ago) link

i don't know if this ties in troi but betazoids are also notorious for disliking horse riding.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:16 (ten years ago) link

w/r/t troi, betazoids have different plumbing.

is Troi the only one in a onesie? Yar had the guys' uniform and Crusher wore her flowing gowns or whatever the fuck

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:18 (ten years ago) link

maybe it is a betazoid thing

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:18 (ten years ago) link

http://nintendo3dscommunity.com/uploads/gallery/album_64/gallery_1_64_38263.jpg

*rips up lovenote, gallops off*

lj. 'hoover' egads (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:18 (ten years ago) link

HALF-BETAZOID YALL.

is Troi the only one in a onesie? Yar had the guys' uniform and Crusher wore her flowing gowns or whatever the fuck

Oh gods I thought you were referring to Wesley Crusher there for a min.

Neil Nosepicker (Leee), Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:24 (ten years ago) link

well so i googled "how does deanna troi pee" and i got some pretty, uh.... good...? fanfiction...

ian, Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:36 (ten years ago) link

bi-pee is in the eye of the beholder

lj. 'hoover' egads (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:37 (ten years ago) link

so in the end we've determined that Betazoids pee with their fingers or something

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 9 January 2014 22:05 (ten years ago) link

They pee with their empathy.

Neil Nosepicker (Leee), Thursday, 9 January 2014 22:44 (ten years ago) link

You can't spell EMPATH without pee etc.

Neil Nosepicker (Leee), Thursday, 9 January 2014 22:45 (ten years ago) link

E, 'S P

lj. 'hoover' egads (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 January 2014 22:50 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

can't believe how amateur this convo was

Star Trek ships all have artificial gravity and forcefields so they don't need special pee cups or whatever

As for waste, just read about how a replicator works


A replicator was a device that used transporter technology to dematerialize quantities of matter and then rematerialize that matter in another form. It was also capable of inverting its function, thus disposing of leftovers and dishes and storing the bulk material again.

So you're probably eating and wearing what used to be poop.

As for how Troi pees, she suffers for her ridiculous 1980s-inspired leotard and just peels the whole damn thing off.

have a nice blood (mh), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 16:55 (ten years ago) link

Star Trek ships all have artificial gravity and forcefields so they don't need special pee cups or whatever

gravity and forcefields not the issue, it's getting out of the uniform to pee that is the issue.

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 16:58 (ten years ago) link

maybe she just pees in her leotard and throws it into the replicator and gets a new one

have a nice blood (mh), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 17:01 (ten years ago) link

maybe the uniforms have a spage-age slit you can't see that makes them tear away, its not that complicated

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 17:03 (ten years ago) link

i loved the Space Age Slits

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 17:04 (ten years ago) link


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