...AND THE BEAT GOES ON! The GRAND ILM DISCO POLL results are revealed!

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it does what all edits of well-known tunes should do

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link

one of the things I thought was great about the curation job done on the Larry Levan 'Journeys Into Paradise' comp was that it really touched on all the different emotions and vibes disco can encompass while still presenting the sound as coherent - Phreek's "Weekend" and Chaka's "Clouds" rubbing shoulders with Man Friday's "Love Honey, Love Heartache" and Taana Gardner's "Heartbeat".

Such an OTM compilation. "Haven't You Heard" next to "Ain't No Mountain" next to "Love Injection" next to "Once in a Lifetime."

Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 00:02 (ten years ago) link

xpost similarly re the comments upthread about "A Lover's Holiday" and the LNTG edit thereof, the first thing that is marvelous about the LNTG edit is how it liberates something a little bit extra out of the interplay between the bass and the clipped Chic guitar licks, extending out the tension so that its resolution is that much more satisfying.

But what is even more surprising is that, while I already loved "A Lover's Holiday", after falling in love with that edit it actually made me love the original more than I already had: the edit really focused my mind on how magisterial an expression of disco economy and discipline the original's groove is, not a single note wasted.

Tim F, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 00:10 (ten years ago) link

that comp was the best album I heard in 2006.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 00:22 (ten years ago) link

"Love Sensation" still sounds massive. Good to see my vote on "Barely Breaking Even" didn't go to waste!

Michael F Gill, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 01:39 (ten years ago) link

glad to hear so many people discovering "barely breaking even". I first heard it on DImitri From Paris' Disco Forever mix, one of the first cds that got me into disco.

☞ (brimstead), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 03:04 (ten years ago) link

even though i had trouble whittling my ballot down to 50, i still feel like there's so much to discover. so much canonical stuff i haven't heard before. can we do seperate house and techno polls at some point?

☞ (brimstead), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 04:06 (ten years ago) link

there should have been (at the very least) a line break before my techno/house polls plea. It looks like i said this poll had too much house and techno or something which is not at all what i meant.

☞ (brimstead), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 04:09 (ten years ago) link

def down for that. fuck artists poll i can't even

flopson, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 04:49 (ten years ago) link

What is the surprise? That played out more or less as I was expecting (except I thought it might turn into Vogue).

After the male rap, Dimitri adds something that doesn't belong to "Last Night a DJ Saved My Life"; I guess if you don't know the song that bit originally belongs to, you might not notice... But it definitely put a big grin on my face when I first heard that remix, especially since the tune borrowed there is one of my all-time favourites.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 08:48 (ten years ago) link

52. Bee Gees - More Than a Woman (1977)
271 points, 6 votes, one 1st place vote.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/lixnixn/R-2005308-1258049373_zps41672f6c.jpeg

http://youtu.be/5XIr_TjL6Og (album version)
http://youtu.be/7H_Eyux5knw (scene from Saturday Night Fever)

Hell you can certainly include the entire SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER soundtrack (I saw the whole movie for the first time in class last week, I should start a thread on um, whether its a "good" movie) ...didn't anyone mention DISCO INFERNO or the BeeGees MORE THAN A WOMAN yet ?

― V, 8. lokakuuta 2002 1:21

A student has just thoughtfully burned me disc 2 of Their Greatest Hits - The Record. Surely I cannot be convinced that "More Than A Woman" is not the best song ever written (or at least under that title. Sorry A, we'll always have "Can I Come Over") (actually I REALLY blame this on Neil and Rachel's Comic Relief dance). My parents had the SNF sndtrk and Abba Greatest Hits Vol. 2 on vinyl, but sadly Pearl Jam never covered either and they grew dust.

― Dave M. (rotten03), 26. huhtikuuta 2004 8:27

the phrasing of the verses is great, I'm so addicted to this song...the samba(?) beat, all of it

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), 20. kesäkuuta 2012 22:21

In my head, this is TOTALLY tied to the scene in the movie.

― hutlock, 20. kesäkuuta 2012 22:23

my mind plays out the choreography every time I hear it

every
single
time

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), 20. kesäkuuta 2012 22:31

Tuomas, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 09:15 (ten years ago) link

To be honest, this was one of the few things in this poll that made me not-so-happy. IMO "More Than a Woman" is bit of a limp tune, so I'm not sure if it needs to be in the top 100 twice? But the people have spoken.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 09:17 (ten years ago) link

The Tavares' version is better, I realise now, but this is one i listened to first. My no.5. Tuomas, you are wrong.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 09:27 (ten years ago) link

This is stupid.

Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 09:30 (ten years ago) link

Sorry, I calls 'em as I sees 'em.

Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 09:30 (ten years ago) link

Meh

ewar woowar (or something), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 09:48 (ten years ago) link

I am so offended now

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 10:21 (ten years ago) link

51. George Benson - Give Me the Night (1980)
274 points, 7 votes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/lixnixn/R-822689-1162392965_zps60cb5572.jpeg

http://youtu.be/Iey3CZFg-KE (music video)
http://youtu.be/G0e7OyxFsxQ (12" version)

A lot of funk bands and jazz people made a similar shift to relatively smooth R&B around that time. It could be any number of factors -- label pressure, new technology, desire to not run the same sound into the ground, etc. I like a lot of that late '70s/early '80s crap -- Raydio, George Benson's Give Me the Night, Patti Austin, Patrice Rushen, whatever -- so you'll hear no complaints from me.

― Andy K (Andy K), 27. huhtikuuta 2004 23:42

Gimme the Night is sooooooo slick.

― m0stly clean (m0stly clean), 23. joulukuuta 2004 6:40

Not sure how I made it this far in life without knowing "Give Me the Night". OH EM GEE I want to put this on repeat for the next 72 hours.

― Johnny Fever, 12. huhtikuuta 2013 22:44

Yes! Top tune! One of my Mom's favorites.

― Mr. Snrub, 12. huhtikuuta 2013 22:46

you've got George Benson doing some beach rollerskating guitar jam dancing and you only use about thirty seconds of it in the video, that's more restraint than I'd have been able to show.

― Fanois och Alexander (Merdeyeux), 25. kesäkuuta 2013 22:00

my dad used to get down to "Gimmee The Night" when I was a kid. It kicks ass. Subabababaadubduabababa.

― Chris V. (Chris V), 1. helmikuuta 2003 5:49

Tuomas, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 11:49 (ten years ago) link

This is so good, one of my favourite discoveries from this poll

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 11:52 (ten years ago) link

50. Carly Simon - Why (1982)
274 points, 8 votes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/lixnixn/R-3454758-1331025360_zps71c290b5.jpeg

http://youtu.be/aW8UnXzP3ms (music video)
http://youtu.be/9z951iR1bM8 (12" version)

I like-not-love "Why" -- her voice sounds like an off-key synthesizer (no, not a good thing, kids).

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, 26. helmikuuta 2008 23:00

I like-not-love "Why" -- her voice sounds like an off-key synthesizer (no, not a good thing, kids).

why

does this post
hurt so much?

tell me why

― henry s, 26. helmikuuta 2008 23:24

Seven minute WHY 12" = Best song ever?

― piscesx, 1. tammikuuta 2009 22:55

LA-DI-DA-DI-DA

Tuomas, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 11:57 (ten years ago) link

yay @ on "Give Me The Night."

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 11:59 (ten years ago) link

When I saw that this tune started getting votes, at first I was like, "Why?", until I found out it's a Chic production. You guys sure love Chic, don't you? :)

But it's okay, though I don't think the busy 80s drum machine fills really fit the groove...

(x-post)

Tuomas, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 12:02 (ten years ago) link

I loved 'Why' before I knew it had anything to do with Chic! I heard it played on jazz fm one day (between two other songs that I'd heard a million times before) without catching the name of the artist and had one of the most intense 'must find out what this is' reactions I can remember, I was surprised when I found out it was Carly Simon.

'a tragic (fictitious) life' (soref), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 12:16 (ten years ago) link

three songwriters that will and do dominate this list in a row (the Gibbs, Temperton, Rodgers/Edwards)

as mentioned above, the original MTAW is made redundant by the Tavares. was How Deep Is Your Love nominated? hope at least that one missed the cut. on the other hand, I support Night Fever all the way.

g simmel, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 13:32 (ten years ago) link

49. Odyssey - Native New Yorker (1977)
277 points, 8 votes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/lixnixn/111049858_zps8b22864d.gif

http://youtu.be/_8Kp7WX7y8M

Yeah, Odyssey's big hit was "Native New Yorker". "You're no tramp but you're no lady, talking that street talk, you're the heart and soul of New York City." Great song.

― Arthur, 26. heinäkuuta 2001 3:00

'Native New Yorker' by Odyssey for the way it sounded so lush and lovely but also for the way in which it was simultaneously aspirational and inclusive. It does the whole gritty street tough mugger-hardened, cockroach infested hey buddy attitude thing that has always made New York(especially late 70s NY) seem so impossibly glamorous to outsiders, but makes makes it sound so available - all you have to do is come to the city, have something cinematically bad hppen to you, sashay into a discotheque (don't worry there's one on every street corner) and HEY! you're one of us. You're a native New Yorker.

And then there's the sax solo in the middle which is the distilled essence of every single NY detective series theme tune ever made.

― adam b (adam b), 7. lokakuuta 2002 13:12

- agreed re: "Native New Yorker," which sounds like every advertisment I ever saw in the archives of Life Magazine c. 1976

― Eric H. (Eric H.), 27. elokuuta 2003 9:17

Yeah yeah, pedants, I know Ace didn't write "New York Groove" (it was written by Russ Ballard....oddly, a Brit...for the band, Hello. Ballard also wrote "God Gave Rock'n'Roll to You" which Kiss also covered). I've never heard Hello's version, but it invariably lacks to thwomping disco stomp of Ace's rendition....the same disco thwomp that makes makes it the perfect TS opponent for Odyssey's lush disco classic.

I heard the Odyssey track yesterday probably for the first time in seven or eight years (it's a wonder that the producers of "Sex & the City" never cribbed it for usage in the series). Ace's track is pumpingly celebratory. Odyssey's depiction is vibrant yet simultaneously world-weary. Ace's NYC is one of endless opportunity for naughy hedonism, whereas Odyssey's NYC is a place where chilly one night stands are de rigeur, manners are non-existent and heartbreak is a given, but you'd still never want to live anywhere else.

Despite being a dyed-in-the-wool Kiss fan, I personally might have to go with the Odyssey track here. While I applaud Ace's track and still love it, it's lumpen and clumsy next to the stylishly swooning "Native New Yorker." Both of these tracks positively stink of a New York City that hasn't existed for years (though I've never understood why Ace cites the corner of 3rd Avenue and 43rd street --- "it's gonna be ecstacy". That's quite possibly the dullest street corner in all of Manhattan).

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), 16. kesäkuuta 2005 23:49

"Native New Yorker" is fantastic! Why have I never noticed before? Probably because my perception was clouded over by my brother singing along with it when I was a kid? I probably liked it then even, but still I feel like I've heard it for the first time (and even that was just a fragment). I was in an American Apparel store of all places, feeling old around all the young sexy bodies in skimpy cotton.

― R_S (RSLaRue), 19. lokakuuta 2006 22:28

The intro reminds me a bit of Odyssey's "Native New Yorker", which in its long version is one of the most sublime pieces of urban(e) disco I've ever heard.

― Tom May (Tom May), 4. maaliskuuta 2004 13:58

Tuomas, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 14:06 (ten years ago) link

surprised at how much higher MTAW placed than the other two bee gees tracks

xpost YESSSS

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 14:07 (ten years ago) link

Odyssey, I feel, are among the more underrated disco acts there are. Besides "Native New Yorker", "Weekend Lover", "Use It Up, Wear It Out", "Going Back to My Roots", and "Inside Out" are all brilliant singles with an unique sound and memorable lyrics ("Use It Up, Wear It Out" particularly is an incredible example of disco hedonism/nihilism). They should be in the upper echelons of the disco canon.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 14:11 (ten years ago) link

48. The Rolling Stones - Miss You (1978)
279 points, 9 votes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/lixnixn/R-1327763-1332441805_zpsfb063400.jpeg

http://youtu.be/hic-dnps6MU (music video)
http://youtu.be/0IhSnfyfUgU (12" version)

Miss You! the "Puerto Rican girls that's just DYYYYYYAN to MEEEETCHA!" line rulez over all. Disco Stones 4-eva!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), 20. joulukuuta 2005 18:50

"Miss You" is just phenomenal, kind of your classic "can't believe there was a time when this song didn't exist" Stones tune

― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), 5. tammikuuta 2012 6:33

the 12" version of miss you is so completely badass - bass higher in the mix, more Sugar Blue. i know this must've been mentioned before

― epigram addict (outdoor_miner), 5. tammikuuta 2012 16:07

"Miss You" was one of the first songs I remember hearing on the radio...all the fucking time. WLS in Chicago must've played it no less than twice an hour when it came out. I love the song, but I actually prefer the single edit (I'm still caught off-guard when the saxophone solo comes in).

― Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), 5. tammikuuta 2012 16:32

But "Miss You" has such a hard groove & is a blast to sing along with; not surprised to hear it's a Jagger song since for me the performance comes down to his scats/coos/dyintameetcha.

― I think Mick Jagger has suffered plenty. (Euler), 25. kesäkuuta 2010 9:02

Tuomas, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 14:40 (ten years ago) link

huh

freemen (on the) space (seandalai), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 14:40 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, I was surprised too "Miss You" made it this high... I've nothing against the song, but it doesn't sound overtly disco to me, except for the four-to-the-floor beat.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 14:44 (ten years ago) link

Compare it to "I Was Made for Loving You Baby", the other big rock disco song on the list, and it sounds like KISS were at least trying to do a proper disco song, not just adding a disco beat to a rock tune.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 14:46 (ten years ago) link

If disco, as Nile Rodgers would have it, was escapism which new exactly what it was escaping then Native New Yorker is the perfect example. The world outside the club is desolate: "And love, love is just a passing word/It's the thought you had in a taxi cab/That got left on the curb/When he dropped you off at East 83rd."

And the mirroring of "You're the heart and soul of New York City" with "To set you free from New York City".

I really like songs that directly address a particular character because it's specific but it feels somehow universal because of the second person.

Basically, this is one of the songs I would play to somebody if I wanted to explain my ideal of disco.

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 14:49 (ten years ago) link

Nice post, DL.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link

Hm. Yeah. I think it's got the beat and a bit of the decorations, but I'm not sure about this. I'd say it 'counts' as disco, but shouldn't be so high, but then you can't control for that stuff with polls, it's all about how many people like something.

emil.y, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link

xp re Stones

emil.y, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link

One of my favorite songs by anybody.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 14:52 (ten years ago) link

Miss You is completely marvellous, glad to see it here. Usually it's clogging up 'worst disco track ever' type lists instead.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 14:59 (ten years ago) link

in 2013?!?

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 15:00 (ten years ago) link

btw no it's quite a disco song so much as "disco-influenced" but the Bob Clearmountain 12" is a guaranteed floor filler.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 15:01 (ten years ago) link

51. George Benson - Give Me the Night (1980)

yessss

Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link

I'm seeing a pattern emerging where parallel lists seem to be counting down, alternating between deep disco culture and crossover pop. I mean, that's what was going on at the time too. It's just interesting to see it play out here.

Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link

Not much from my list, though, which admittedly was mostly made up of disco songs about outer space.

emil.y, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 16:01 (ten years ago) link

One of my favorite songs by anybody.

g simmel, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 16:06 (ten years ago) link

"Native New Yorker" is the first of my picks to place. That particular feeling it expresses is so real and so beautifully captured. Some disco records hit their moments of bliss with an instrumental phrase or a great chorus. "Native New Yorker" gets there with stabs of pure emotion and recognition that you feel from lyrics like those quoted by DL upthread.

Josefa, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 16:56 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_9f9LieNF4

flopson, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link

Argh, I can't believe I missed Carly Simon's Why. I must have missed it in the nomination list

octobeard, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 17:44 (ten years ago) link

"miss you" is great but that's way too high

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 17:47 (ten years ago) link

LISTEN, MAN. I'm gonna come 'round twelve with some Puerto Rican girls who're just DYIIIN to meet you!

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 17:49 (ten years ago) link

love the extra verse of Miss You ("I feel ABANDONED.. ") baffled that it was never on the Radio Mix.

piscesx, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link

I'm seeing a pattern emerging where parallel lists seem to be counting down, alternating between deep disco culture and crossover pop. I mean, that's what was going on at the time too. It's just interesting to see it play out here.

― Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Wednesday, December 11, 2013 11:00 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

word that's why i can't be mad at all the beej tracks placing, it's like in love saves the day: uptown and downtown; studio 54 and the loft

flopson, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link


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