Yelena looked completely useless until I fought her with modern Hawkeye and she kept fucking up his countdowns; now I want to level her specifically to neutralize anyone using modern Hawkeye in PVP (baghead Spidey has a similar usage with his counter increaser and I think regular Spidey can also fuck with countdowns?)
― SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 9 December 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link
they really need to fix environmental effects so they scale.100 hp for +5 ap is a game changing no-brainer, 50hp bonus for hot dogs is some bullshit.
― Strangers look on with a discernible, barely contained ‘wow’. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 December 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link
Moonstone's Gravity Warp ability is pretty good, (make a 4/5 match with special tile swap or get a free critical hit), the others i'm iffy on. Haven't leveled her past 15-ish though.
lol yes Hot Dogs for 50hp
― Nhex, Monday, 9 December 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link
I look at that map is a neutral environment tile - hot dog isn't very useful and it takes forever to get that Narrow Alleyways super special or whatever it's called
― Nhex, Monday, 9 December 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link
oh man I hate the hot dog board so much
OTOH the board with the free critical tiles is my jam
― SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 9 December 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link
loled irl re: 50hp hot dogs
nominate "50hp bonus for hot dogs is some bullshit." for ILG board description
― I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Monday, 9 December 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link
that change everything to red special is crazy good.
now that there's nobody boosted in the tourney, i'm having to train myself out of making env tile matches as much, since without the boosts they're not as important (for the critical skill especially)
― lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Monday, 9 December 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link
argh, these fucking hunt heroic covers are all characters i do not need. bad karma.
― Strangers look on with a discernible, barely contained ‘wow’. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 December 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link
thor and hawkeye, thor and hawkeye thor and hawkeye GIVE ME A GODDAMN SPIDERMAN YOU SPITEFUL TABLET
― Strangers look on with a discernible, barely contained ‘wow’. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 December 2013 19:55 (ten years ago) link
brazenly entering competitions with daken at 40% health bc "he'll get it back in the fight"
― I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Monday, 9 December 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link
lol hate this so much when playing against him, took me forever to figure out to save him for last and then unload with saved-up specials.
― Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Monday, 9 December 2013 20:18 (ten years ago) link
"took me forever and people smarter than me pointing delineating the strategy," rather.
i tend to hammer on him first b/c i hate his strike tile skill, but maybe that's a bad idea
― lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Monday, 9 December 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link
also he's the one overleveled guy on many teams so after i take him down its all mopup
― lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Monday, 9 December 2013 20:21 (ten years ago) link
Right now, if I see a 40+ Thor in PVP I'm all "nope *skip*"
― SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 9 December 2013 20:27 (ten years ago) link
i'm at 9 on my ladder but man i gotta skip a lotta heavy hitters. 38 daken, 28 rag, 20 bullseye
― Strangers look on with a discernible, barely contained ‘wow’. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 December 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link
bullseye's adamantium bones ability is a (super-annoying) counterpoint to daken's pheromone ability so i usually go after him first. i can deal with daken, because it usually gives you priority on the pheromone pop, so often i'll get 2 and he'll get... less than 2? because all of the red tiles are accupado
― I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Monday, 9 December 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link
haha, "accupado" i am so tired
having a bullseye with no purple powers is very aggravating
― Strangers look on with a discernible, barely contained ‘wow’. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 December 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link
haha that's the definition of useless
― SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 9 December 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link
it's that or moonshadow and he has... well, more hp
― Strangers look on with a discernible, barely contained ‘wow’. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 December 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link
The Hunt all-nighter? xxxp
― Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Monday, 9 December 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link
I'm underpowered and focusing mainly on the PvE missions, but hitting him in the early rounds is kind of inefficient because of his healing. If I leave him alone (or at least until I have enough AP saved to finish him in one turn), I can avoid all the counterattack/healing nonsense.
― Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Monday, 9 December 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link
if you see an opportunity to starve him out via killing yellows, he basically kills himself pretty quickly too. used that against a stronger daken recently (sacrificing my own daken in the process, somewhat) and it was pretty easy. won't always work though, especially if you get lots of isolated yellows around the bottom of the board
only a strategy ot use if the board is already close to good for it
― I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Monday, 9 December 2013 21:28 (ten years ago) link
i am not the only one having problems getting a good draw here:http://www.d3pforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1167
― Strangers look on with a discernible, barely contained ‘wow’. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 December 2013 21:29 (ten years ago) link
― Nhex, Monday, 9 December 2013 21:38 (ten years ago) link
I'm enjoying having Bullseye (with purple power) in the Dark Avengers tourney; just pop a few purples & the enemy does 1 damage against me. ANNOYING AS HELL but I win
― Euler, Monday, 9 December 2013 21:40 (ten years ago) link
The Punisher (Dark Reign)3 Star Rarity (Rare)Max HP: 580010 / 52 / 11 / 60 / 12 / 67 / 4.0x / 4Molotov Cocktail - Black 7 APThe Punisher lobs a bottle of liquid mayhem. Damages the enemy team for 59 and converts a random basic color tile to a Red Countdown tile that spreads fire every 2 turns, converting a random basic color tile to a 12 damage Red Attack Tile.Level UpgradesLevel 2: Increases Attack tile damage to 15.Level 3: Increases initial team damage to 89.Level 4: Increases Attack tile damage to 18.Level 5: Reduces Countdown to 1.Max Level 5 - 557 damage, 113 damage Attack tileJudgement - Green 8 APThe Punisher unloads his arsenal. Destroys a 3x3 group of tiles, doing damage but not generating AP. Chaos creates an opening, converting a basic color tile to a strength 12 Strike tile.Level UpgradesLevel 2: Increases Strike tile strength to 14.Level 3: Creates 2 Strike tiles.Level 4: Increases Strike tile strength to 17.Level 5: Creates 3 Strike tiles.Max level 5 - 104 strength Strike tileRetribution - Red 8 APThe Punisher draws his sidearm and finishes what he started. Damages the target for 118. If they are below 20% of their max health, he downs them.Level UpgradesRetributionLevel 2: Increases base damage to 177.Level 3: Downs target if their health is below 30% of max.Level 4: Increases base damage to 236.Level 5: Downs target if their health is below 40% of max.
Max HP: 580010 / 52 / 11 / 60 / 12 / 67 / 4.0x / 4
Molotov Cocktail - Black 7 APThe Punisher lobs a bottle of liquid mayhem. Damages the enemy team for 59 and converts a random basic color tile to a Red Countdown tile that spreads fire every 2 turns, converting a random basic color tile to a 12 damage Red Attack Tile.Level UpgradesLevel 2: Increases Attack tile damage to 15.Level 3: Increases initial team damage to 89.Level 4: Increases Attack tile damage to 18.Level 5: Reduces Countdown to 1.Max Level 5 - 557 damage, 113 damage Attack tile
Judgement - Green 8 APThe Punisher unloads his arsenal. Destroys a 3x3 group of tiles, doing damage but not generating AP. Chaos creates an opening, converting a basic color tile to a strength 12 Strike tile.Level UpgradesLevel 2: Increases Strike tile strength to 14.Level 3: Creates 2 Strike tiles.Level 4: Increases Strike tile strength to 17.Level 5: Creates 3 Strike tiles.Max level 5 - 104 strength Strike tile
Retribution - Red 8 APThe Punisher draws his sidearm and finishes what he started. Damages the target for 118. If they are below 20% of their max health, he downs them.Level UpgradesRetributionLevel 2: Increases base damage to 177.Level 3: Downs target if their health is below 30% of max.Level 4: Increases base damage to 236.Level 5: Downs target if their health is below 40% of max.
That Retribution skill is gonna SUUUUUUUCK at max... "downs target if health is below 40%" yikes!
― Strangers look on with a discernible, barely contained ‘wow’. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 December 2013 21:45 (ten years ago) link
ha, that was exactly the bit my eye was drawn to
― Nhex, Monday, 9 December 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link
also, bring on the Frankenpunisher alt
― Nhex, Monday, 9 December 2013 21:48 (ten years ago) link
yeah I was drooling when I first saw the Pun's stats, even at just 1 cover I could see how they were gonna scale
guessing it'll be a while before he starts dropping from tokens though
― Euler, Monday, 9 December 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link
wait, so are the rewards linked to specific goals, or do you just replay that level a few times until you get one reward each time?
― mh, Monday, 9 December 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link
the latter. you're going to get A LOT of 20iso wins though.
― Strangers look on with a discernible, barely contained ‘wow’. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 December 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link
is the reason i'm getting nowhere in savage land that i need a well leveled mod hawk?
― Strangers look on with a discernible, barely contained ‘wow’. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 December 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link
IMO yes
my preferred team when possible is Thor + modHawk + Daken; if I can't use Daken, I'll sub in another buffed event character (either classic Spiderman or grey Black Widow)
― SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 9 December 2013 21:55 (ten years ago) link
nah you don't really need him. his boosted dmg is good but I usually end up using Thor for the tough missions
― Nhex, Monday, 9 December 2013 21:57 (ten years ago) link
that said, you probably have his abilities maxed out so why not
I've also been surprisingly successful with Thor + modHawk/Daken + baghead Spidey
― SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 9 December 2013 22:02 (ten years ago) link
i've been riding with thor/daken/juggernaut but it occurs to me that dooms black ability + daken's buff + thor's offense might equal profit
― Strangers look on with a discernible, barely contained ‘wow’. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 December 2013 22:08 (ten years ago) link
thor + modhawk is all you really need. the third really doesn't get to do anything. i use an iron40 or something just to soak up some damage.
― lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Monday, 9 December 2013 22:10 (ten years ago) link
hm. don't really have the iso to level modhawk past 20 and he's not that great at that low level
― Strangers look on with a discernible, barely contained ‘wow’. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 December 2013 22:11 (ten years ago) link
and doom WOULD be great if his black attack didn't take 12 ap. i generally win before he's half full.
pretty sure that doom's black won't stack with daken's tile. otherwise daken + modern storm would be disgusting.
― I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Monday, 9 December 2013 22:22 (ten years ago) link
i think maybe the daken strike tiles stack once per all the fists hitting?
― lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Monday, 9 December 2013 22:45 (ten years ago) link
i'll attempt to test this at some point... that would be not bad but i imagine it wouldn't be as otherworldly as one might hope (or rather, it'd be dwarfed by all of the insane-o damage you're already doing)
― I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Monday, 9 December 2013 22:54 (ten years ago) link
neat, they do stack. not super helpful tho because A) if you're using daken the way i use him at least, nearly all of your red tiles are already non-basic from pheromone; secondly, with only two of doom's tiles (right now anyway, i assume he makes more as you level his skill) they disappear right quick. daken's come so quick and so often that there are always a couple on the board i find.
makes modern storm/wolverine with max hailstorm and max green on wolverine seem incredibly interesting tho :O
― I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Monday, 9 December 2013 23:10 (ten years ago) link
doom's black ability alters red tiles, not black ones, weirdly enough
― Nhex, Monday, 9 December 2013 23:31 (ten years ago) link
prob so as to not clash with daken i guess
― Strangers look on with a discernible, barely contained ‘wow’. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 December 2013 23:36 (ten years ago) link
guess I'd better start working on Daken (though fuck that animation forever)
― Euler, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 00:35 (ten years ago) link
I have a modern storm with max hailstorm & I'm poised in the Hunt to have 4 green on Wolvie; stoked about that combo too
my main team now is Thor l58 (4-4-5), model 40 l57 (4-1-2), & astonishing Wolvie l49 (2-4-4)
can't stress enough how Wolvie's heal is the business
― Euler, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 00:39 (ten years ago) link