funky house sceptics, let me draw your attention to this

i dont think u guys 'get' compression -- the problem is it flattens the sound, it doesnt add dynamics ... thats just eqing which is a totally diff thing

i'm not saying that dynamics are being added, rather being altered. if you put a tune through a compressor at high input with a low threshold and high ratio, it creates bulges where the tunes quiet and dips where its loud right? which totally changes the groove and sense of space in a track. add to that the effect of a dj in the mix. that unpredictability of space i think is what makes it exciting to me, wheras the relatively straight and flat production on a lot of funky tunes i can find quite boring when presented cleanly (outside of the vibe of a club or social space). i'm open to correction on technicals though i can't say my understanding is particularly expert

what do you mean about eq? cos i have also noticed on some pirate stations a pretty unique sense of eq, but have always put that down to the compression

yah im actually a fan of distortion when it has some function -- i think it can add atmosphere etc, its kinda like a twist on bass drops & basic house DJ eqing in the theo parrish etc sense -- i think my objection is more the notion that its got a more 'real' sound or more interesting sound w/out it i mean i get the idea that it being in a mix, & sounding sloppy & 'live' is a huge part of the appeal but im really very glad that the bass still hits like its supposed when this shit is properly release (all the crazy cousinz shit ive heard sounds actually pretty amazing in its 'studio version') -- imo basically its the DJ's job to fuck with the compression of the tracks, not the producers.

Before you start spinning this into a theory, I just have to say that this is a bizarre rumour. I've never done that deliberately, and certainly haven't told anyone I do that. Who are you wastola?

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no hating meant mate. I think is was mentioned on dissensus a while back after beyond or FWD, apologies if its rubbish or ive got my wires crossed i dont mean to be shit stirring. Love your new stuff.

Speaking of DJs, I'd love to see more chat about them on this thread, which always seems very producer-focused. I have to say that sequencing-wise the only two guys that bring anything particularly special to this seem to be Marcus Nasty (obviously), Spyro and Perempay... I still love that mix Perempay did for Rinse halfway through last year when he keeps bringing 'In the air' back again and again and builds this really smooth hypnotic feel with the tracks, which is so radically different to the 'slam in the hits' approach that it really struck me. I think that because funky is at that (wonderful) stage in its evolution when all sorts of different iterations on the basic template can co-exist in one set, that's when you'd expect some amazing new styles of set construction to appear. Maybe I've just not been to enough clubs. Dunno, anyone want to shout out any particular DJs styles?

Okay track ID time. On Lil Silva and Marcus's set from 20.02.09, what are:

- the amazing dancehallish tune at the 45:21 mark, with the huge synth riffs and the sampled "buss it!". The way the beat switches up at 45:50 is just insane.
- the cataclysmic synth stab tune from about 82 minutes - it's like Quentin Harris gone grime. Marcus's announcements imply that it's "Sunshine" by Target???

Ah god I I can't believe I didn't know the first track was Perempay & Dee's (heh) "Buss It"... So good!

I don't really keep up to date as much as everyone else on this thread but that remix of Head Shoulder Knees And Toes with Doneao on it is INCREDIBLE. Ditto Party Hard, even if his signature is getting a bit Harry Belafonte.

I really like In The Morning as well - it seems to be the closest funky might get to its own Fill Me In (ie big breakthrough hit), which I never really thought about Do You Mind.

(Btw it is awesome to see Cybele back here as well)

Turns out "Sunshine" is by Lil Silva himself, go figure.

Cosign Matt's last two posts, including a big welcome to Cybele.

Sorry for getting all ysi? up in here, but can someone please post "In Your Handbag"?

ok, so, beyond last night was SO SO SO SO SO GOOD. loads better than the last one, though earlier on i was still irritated by the preponderance of hooded boys facing the dj and skulking without dancing - it must be so depressing to be faced with that as the dj. miriam and i held it down as best we could, though, and a group of girls in party mode arrived at some point too, so it did get going later.

but anyway, the music! it was a lot housier than i expected - MA1's set was unbelievably detroity. in places, it could almost have been a carl craig-esque techno set, except w/that galloping broken beat instead of steady 4/4. recognised a lot of deeper cuts like jalla's 'turbulence', roska's 'our father'. it was stellar. surprisingly few vox, even in the marcus nasty and geeneus sets, but the occasional superb anthem obv - 'seasons' and 'frontline' were the night's biggest winners, though i can report that 'in the morning' sounds EVEN BETTER in a club.

- only just realised that it's jalla as in jalapeno, duhhh
- the lyrics of 'frontline' are kind of fucked up, it's all about a girl looking after her dealer bf's coke stash...and the line "i'm in love with this boy and he calls me snow white" is obv a coke ref, but for ages i assumed princess nyah was white because of it. (she's not.)

(by "the last one" i mean the first one, the last beyond i went to - have missed all the intervening ones)

yeh man the frontline lyric is pretty interesting... her role is also metaphor for her emotional exposure in the relationship i think ('my heart's open so wide...'). definitely some compulsive but quite upsetting tensions of willing / resistant, exploited and knowing it / proud and wearing it

glad Beyond was good. i was not at all sold on plastic people as the place, as a venue it really draws out that eyes on the dj vibe. it would really benefit from some more lighting at the back for certain nights i think. system is so good though

i didnt go beyond :(

you should hear princess's other song about needing 'big boys'.

yeah, her defiant/no-nonsense tone makes her sound so determined to make herself vulnerable in all sorts of ways.

<3 the plastic people system - after listening to so many mp3s and sets on shoddy bitrate, it was so brilliant to feel the bass. agree about PP the venue, but it was better than the weird west end place beyond started life at...

xp show me titchy!

i dont have a link.

im pissed off i didnt go beyond now. you should stop talking ;)

come to night slugs next thu then. crazy cousinz!

Biggest songs on (my) road:

Funkystepz - Funky Sound
Crazy Cousinz - Always Be Mine
Footsteps - Some tune whose name I can't remember
Tribal Audio + NST - Hard Steppin'
KIG - Head Shoulders Knees & Toes (Donaeo Remix)
Fuzzy Logic - In The Morning
Perempay & Dee - Buss It

Am I the only one who prefers the original KIG to the Donaeo mix? :-/

I like Donaeo, but he kinda sucks out a lot of the effortless, goofy fun.

well the original is so ubiquitous now that the remix pretty much functions as its own track, it's not really so much a case of one commenting on the other.

moreover rev you gravely underestimate the veyr-much-effort-filled fun of hollering along to doneao's operatic mavadoisms. (crossed with i dunno, john legend or whatever.)

also yall heard his migraine skank jump-off as well rite. v good.

"fire & brimstone/make the bed rock gyal like flintstone" is like the defn of goofy fun

well the original is so ubiquitous now that the remix pretty much functions as its own track, it's not really so much a case of one commenting on the other.

moreover rev you gravely underestimate the veyr-much-effort-filled fun of hollering along to doneao's operatic mavadoisms. (crossed with i dunno, john legend or whatever.)

― ed, gar, allan, & poe (r|t|c), Friday, March 6, 2009 10:16 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

a) I live in the US, and I would guess that there are no more than a few hundred people in the entire country who follow funky at all. Ubiquitous isn't even an issue.

b) I like that aspect of Donaeo, and think that's what sets him apart as a vocalist. I just don't think it works for that particular track.

Yeah the original KIG track was a big track for me several months ago Rev. I really like the Kardinal Offishall rap version deej posted - though the Wale rap not so much.

wale sounds like fake kanye & really awkward over something that fast

wale sounds awkward over anything of any speed

Am I the only one who prefers the original KIG to the Donaeo mix?

The Crazy Cousins one is good as well. Slinky!

Lex, do you have any idea what the tune Marcus played immediately before frontline was? The jumpy electro basaline thing?

The Crazy Cousins one is good as well. Slinky!

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― Hreidarsson The Storm (Matt DC), Saturday, March 7, 2009 6:56 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ooh, haven't heard this

RUNNING TINGS:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=95482502

Anyone got any recommendations for the ravier side of funky? I'm thinking in particular of stuff like Jalla's Turbulence, which is like 50% Township Funk and 50% the Trentemoller remix of What Else Is There. Although not as bombastic as that sounds.

Matt, follow my link!

Though I've not heard "Turbulence" as far as I'm aware.

funky house + township funk = kwaito???

yooooo "head, shoulders, knees n toes" is O_O

other thoughts after one quick run thru of lex's 09 funky zip:

- i continue to enjoy crazy cousinz remixes far more than their own trax
- dunno if the farty horn noise is a new thing recently or not, but i support reggaeton in my funky house
- "party hard" is also great, reminds my n00b ass of those sweet sean paul duets that i love so dearly
- i still think that the faeda rmx of teedra moses is still my fav funky joint of the year tho

i like that the dude who says "i make the bed rock/ yeah like flintstones" actually sounds like a caveman

lex, did you send out a new zip? (and if so, why did I not recieve it?) (I should put together a zip of goodies myself, that seems to be the charitable thing to do nowadays)

Why hasn't "funky house sceptics, let me draw your attention to this" become a "y'all ready for this" yet?

lex zip ysi

lol whoops

haha u spilled der beans

jacob, sorry, no idea what that track was...

rev check your hotmail

My bad, I did get your first email with it. I think I just opened it at school or something when I couldn't download and forgot about it by the time I got home.

(side question: sic = alex in mtl?)

kit in mngrl

What do you lot think of this Grievous Angel penned mix of mixes? Not a bad starter pack for the uninitiated I reckon (myself included).

here

A decent overview of the more raucous end of the scene - DJ Larizzle's "Strickly Funky 8: The Skanking Season":

http://www.4shared.com/file/89285792/67620a0b/DJ_Larizzle-_Strickly_Funky__8_-_The_Skanking_Season.html

Tracklist:
Sabrina Washington ft. Donaeo - Get Out
Fr3e - Skank, Calm Down
K.I.G ft. Donaeo - Head, Shoulder, Knees and Toes Remix
Crazy Cousinz - Inflation
Boy Better Know - Too Many Man
QT - Free To Move
Meleka - Go (Crazy Cousinz Mix)
Apple - Rotten Apple
Tribal Mangz - Tribal Man Skanks (DJ Larizzle Special)
Fuzzy Logic ft. Egypt - In The Morning
Coldsteps ft. Princess - I Will Be There
Roska - In Your Handbag
Donaeo - Party Hard (Anthem Tribal Remix)
Zest - Jump In The Middle And Skank
L.A. - Call Me
Gracious K - Migraine Skank
Donaeo - Love To Happen
Roska - Do You Believe In Love
The Origional Charmer - Arrd Core Skanker (DJ Larizzle Special)
Apple ft. Mr Kaos - Wriggle It
Roska - Climate Change
Fuzzy Logic - The Way You Move
Whytepatch ft. Gift & Miss Teejah - Fresh Air
Terri Walker - Love At First Sight
Cahill - Sex Shooter (Crazy Cousinz Mix)
Mischief - Red Bull Skank (DJ Larizzle Special)
Major Notes - Junglebook

Sabrina Washington ft. Donaeo - Get Out

is this...is that...is that who i think it is!!

Some great stuff I haven't heard before here:

- "The Way You Move" is an awesome piano number a la "Quicktime", "Gallium", "Visions", "Hypnotic"
- the "Anthem Tribal Remix" of "Party Hard" removes "We Belong To The Night" and turns the track into weird darkside gamelan, while "Love To Happen" is a pretty amazing tune that speeds up DJ Gregory's "Don't Panic" exactly like "Migraine Skank" only adds all sorts of amazing little details and effects and motifs.
- "Fresh Air" is amazing widescreen ragga-cum-R&B a la "Girls Like This".
- The rhythmically distended "Red Bull Skank", full of these Skream-like showy stiff snare hits, is probably the kind of sound the scene will plump for if it decisively moves away from house. Reminds of "Midnite Request Line" etc. but in a good way.

x-post - yeah it's Sabrina from Mis-Teeq! Unsurprisingly she sounds a bit shriller than usual here (may just be pitched up). Though actually a lot of their second album tracks were kinda shrill - i'm thinking of "Best Friend". I'm wondering if she's the one doing the patois ad libs here ("blood clart!").

she needs to do something decent after the crap they were going to release for her solo album.