The Wolf of Wall Street (new Scorsese)

He confided that during the filming of two pics over the last 10 years he wanted to abandon the projects, but refrained from naming them....

Scorsese recalled how they had laughed when the New York Times wrote an article about “Raging Bull,” entitled “What’s happened to language in the cinema?”, but suggested that the language in his latest pic, “The Wolf of Wall Street” is far worse – “They’re making money, you know.”

http://variety.com/2013/film/international/martin-scorsese-i-miss-the-time-when-i-had-the-desire-to-experiment-1200930180/

I hated the movie, but "Django Unchained" certainly showed Leo "cutting loose."

yeah I guess it would have. I never saw it for some reason, probably should at some point.

re: the two he'd wanted to abandon, I'd be shocked if one of them wasn't Shutter Island.

otm

while i have no desire to see "silence" i wish they'd just let him make the damn thing already

You're probably right. That's probably my favorite of his since Y2K.

xp

at this point you can promote Silence as everyone's favorite grandpa fulfilling his bucket list

Silence the book is p rad, highly doubtful a Scorsese movie would be any good but hey

(and re: the 2 movies: Shutter Island and Gangs of New York, it's gotta be)

But I thought that Gangs was one of his pet projects for awhile?

there's already a p gd movie of Silence by Shinoda

thx guys I had erased Shutter Island from my memory

@Elvis, that's true. I was mostly thinking that because of the Weinstein meddling, but from what I'm aware most of that happened after filming anyway. Probably The Departed, then. (Can't see it being The Aviator or Hugo, just because they were big "love letter to cinema" type things and I know that's all he really wants)

Yeah, he really regrets winning an Oscar.

Meanwhile ... this movie ...

Pretty sure the chimp was also in charge of continuity.

I used to go to Scorsese films with unrealistically high expectations, then with no expectations, then I avoided a couple, and now I'm not even sure what I'm approaching this one with, except I will see it, so I've at least reversed course. But I don't know if I'm capable of seeing a film of his for what it is anymore--lots of clutter in there.

I'll put it this way. Do you like Goodfellas? You might want to just watch Goodfellas. Take it from someone who doesn't even like Goodfellas.

Goodfellas was during my unreasonably-high-expectations phase--I remember my first response, writing to a friend at the time, was to dwell on the couple of things that bothered me. (Now, of course, very typical, love it--though I wore it out.) Soon after, Cape Fear helped pave the way for the next phase in a big way.

this movie is kind of a mess but i loved it nonetheless. it's not as amazing as goodfellas (what is???) but it's tremendo.

Even golden-era Scorsese never cared about continuity... tons of mismatched shots all over the place.

Yeah, he really regrets winning an Oscar.

Now that you mention it, I'm sure I overheard some gossip that for that film, HE DID!

Goodfellas is lousy with continuity errors.

So this was pretty much a giant waste of time.

High five!!

The best thing I can say about it is that all involved (all of the men, anyway) clearly had a blast making it.

Now that you mention it, I'm sure I overheard some gossip that for that film, HE DID!

― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, December 11, 2013 1:57 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there's been rumblings of this for a bit, yeah. Who knows how true they are.

tell me more

i kinda felt like the oscar win for scorsese was orchestrated in such a way that it came off as condescending (kinda like bigelow's win.)

some funny semi-flaming over this on my FB

I find the trailer at the top of this thread exquisitely charmless and unfunny. It gives me the same feeling I always got from watching John Lithgow and 3rd Rock From the Sun, like hey we're all just letting it all hang out and having a blast, and me I wanna put my foot through the screen.

otm, but an al leong endorsement bears more weight than a trailer

part of me feels this movie has as much in common with a jody hill movie as a scorsese/"wall street"/"boiler room" type movie in some ways

i believe in my boy al leong

Tossing in some chips for fellow azn al leong as well

It says something that, barely half a day after watching it, the only bits that stand out in my brain involve Jon Bernthal and Kyle Chandler, who get about 20 minutes' screentime between them.

Chandler's scene on the yacht is the best in the movie.

Chandler was super in The Spectacular Now. This guy needs a better press agent.

Glenn Kenny just listed this as his 3rd-fave of the year. I'll be curious to read his (eventual) take.

Richard Brody put it at #1, which is really the only place on a top 10 list it makes sense to slot it; it's an all-in kind of movie.

Are you two related

“I’m very happy with this. Leo DiCaprio, we kind of see things the same way. We have similar sensibilities and we want to make a certain kind of statement, hence the projects we choose. I chose Gangs of New York and Shutter Island. He wanted to do The Aviator. I chose The Departed. He wanted to do this new film.”

“That’s one of the reasons we made The Wolf of Wall Street, not to show the greed, but to be in the greed, to be part of it, part of the exaltation of it, part of the excitement of it and part of the destruction it causes.”

“After the war, I remember America in the 1950s, yes it was more innocent, more quote/ unquote repressed, no doubt, culturally, to a certain extent. I don’t remember, honestly, and we weren’t taught a great deal in certain schools, in certain specific things about American history, but I don’t remember them saying that the country was formed only so that everybody could get rich, I just don’t believe it. That feels, for me right now, that is what it feels like.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/martin-scorsese-in-conversation-guilt-trips-of-the-great-director-9000873.html

Well, "flatulent black comedy" sounds better than Jesse & Celine.

http://www.fandor.com/blog/daily-martin-scorseses-the-wolf-of-wall-street

My holiday gift to myself is going to be avoiding the comments on that one.

Make every day a holiday!

Calum has pretty much the same read on it, but was far less mixed ...

http://www.littlewhitelies.co.uk/theatrical-reviews/the-wolf-of-wall-street-25600

floozie from The Apartment reads the riot act to Marty & Leo

http://www.hollywood-elsewhere.com/2013/12/holiday-vs-scorsese/

according to Rene Rodriguez it's clear what side of the class war Marty's on:

The director even lands his closing shot, something he hasn’t always done well, leaving no doubt how he feels about Jordan, abandoning him in a perpetual hell of his own making. The Wolf of Wall Street isn’t a celebration of bad behavior: It’s a condemnation. Scorsese just allows you to share in the fun young millionaires can afford to have and lets you get drunk with them. Eventually, though, the party must end, as they always do, and most will leave the theater exhilarated and relieved at being part of the 99 percent.

The director even lands his closing shot,something he hasn’t always done well,

what did she not like the rat

exhilarated and relieved at being part of the 99 percent.

phew!

99% of film critics are completely useless