i wanted to add that pretty much every performance in this is impressive. dicaprio is incredible as i mentioned, mcconaughey has just a couple of scenes but sets the tone for the whole film, hill is surprisingly good (surprising bc i'd only seen him in some of his comic roles and i thought he was fine if nothing special, not that this isn't a comic role bc it really is). i didn't know who margot robbie was before i saw this but "she's a STAH!" imo. also liked shea wigham's small role as dicaprio's yacht captain.
probably gonna get lost in the discussion, but jon bernthal is A++.
such a bizarre movie. which is in its favor.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 5 December 2013 20:16 (ten years ago) link
pumped now
― Hungry4Ass, Thursday, 5 December 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link
man i really wanna see this
― Lamp, Thursday, 5 December 2013 21:01 (ten years ago) link
I'm still making the fictive leap necessary to regard Scrunchy Face as incredible
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 December 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link
He was really good in the Great Gatsby
Sounds like he's even better in this
Will see
― 乒乓, Thursday, 5 December 2013 21:08 (ten years ago) link
imo his recent (and all of his scorsese) roles have been very serious minded. i love 'the departed' but damon, wahlberg, baldwin, winstone & nicholson have the fun roles while he's the pill-popping stressed out drama center. he's good in the aviator but he's ruled by disorder demons. in GONY he's supposed to be neeson's son but he never works up anything resembling his compelling charisma, and in shutter island (which is p fun i think) he's just playing a bit of a blank slate crazypants detective. he's cutting loose here and i get the sense he was having a blast while making the film. i mean this whole movie must have been amazing to film.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 5 December 2013 21:10 (ten years ago) link
at this point eagerly expecting a new scorsese movie is kind of like getting really excited over a new springsteen album. i mean, it might be better than the last one, or even the last two, but...
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 6 December 2013 02:15 (ten years ago) link
He confided that during the filming of two pics over the last 10 years he wanted to abandon the projects, but refrained from naming them....
Scorsese recalled how they had laughed when the New York Times wrote an article about “Raging Bull,” entitled “What’s happened to language in the cinema?”, but suggested that the language in his latest pic, “The Wolf of Wall Street” is far worse – “They’re making money, you know.”
http://variety.com/2013/film/international/martin-scorsese-i-miss-the-time-when-i-had-the-desire-to-experiment-1200930180/
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 8 December 2013 18:19 (ten years ago) link
I hated the movie, but "Django Unchained" certainly showed Leo "cutting loose."
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 8 December 2013 20:04 (ten years ago) link
yeah I guess it would have. I never saw it for some reason, probably should at some point.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Sunday, 8 December 2013 20:18 (ten years ago) link
re: the two he'd wanted to abandon, I'd be shocked if one of them wasn't Shutter Island.
― Simon H., Sunday, 8 December 2013 21:34 (ten years ago) link
otm
― da croupier, Sunday, 8 December 2013 21:44 (ten years ago) link
while i have no desire to see "silence" i wish they'd just let him make the damn thing already
― da croupier, Sunday, 8 December 2013 21:46 (ten years ago) link
You're probably right. That's probably my favorite of his since Y2K.
― Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Sunday, 8 December 2013 21:46 (ten years ago) link
xp
at this point you can promote Silence as everyone's favorite grandpa fulfilling his bucket list
― da croupier, Sunday, 8 December 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link
Silence the book is p rad, highly doubtful a Scorsese movie would be any good but hey
(and re: the 2 movies: Shutter Island and Gangs of New York, it's gotta be)
― papa smango (fadanuf4erybody), Sunday, 8 December 2013 22:17 (ten years ago) link
But I thought that Gangs was one of his pet projects for awhile?
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 9 December 2013 11:43 (ten years ago) link
there's already a p gd movie of Silence by Shinoda
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 9 December 2013 11:50 (ten years ago) link
thx guys I had erased Shutter Island from my memory
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 December 2013 12:22 (ten years ago) link
@Elvis, that's true. I was mostly thinking that because of the Weinstein meddling, but from what I'm aware most of that happened after filming anyway. Probably The Departed, then. (Can't see it being The Aviator or Hugo, just because they were big "love letter to cinema" type things and I know that's all he really wants)
― papa smango (fadanuf4erybody), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 00:05 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, he really regrets winning an Oscar.
― Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 00:05 (ten years ago) link
Meanwhile ... this movie ...
Pretty sure the chimp was also in charge of continuity.
― Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 00:06 (ten years ago) link
I used to go to Scorsese films with unrealistically high expectations, then with no expectations, then I avoided a couple, and now I'm not even sure what I'm approaching this one with, except I will see it, so I've at least reversed course. But I don't know if I'm capable of seeing a film of his for what it is anymore--lots of clutter in there.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 00:10 (ten years ago) link
I'll put it this way. Do you like Goodfellas? You might want to just watch Goodfellas. Take it from someone who doesn't even like Goodfellas.
― Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 00:18 (ten years ago) link
Goodfellas was during my unreasonably-high-expectations phase--I remember my first response, writing to a friend at the time, was to dwell on the couple of things that bothered me. (Now, of course, very typical, love it--though I wore it out.) Soon after, Cape Fear helped pave the way for the next phase in a big way.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 00:28 (ten years ago) link
this movie is kind of a mess but i loved it nonetheless. it's not as amazing as goodfellas (what is???) but it's tremendo.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 01:21 (ten years ago) link
Even golden-era Scorsese never cared about continuity... tons of mismatched shots all over the place.
Now that you mention it, I'm sure I overheard some gossip that for that film, HE DID!
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:57 (ten years ago) link
Goodfellas is lousy with continuity errors.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:01 (ten years ago) link
So this was pretty much a giant waste of time.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:55 (ten years ago) link
High five!!
― Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:57 (ten years ago) link
The best thing I can say about it is that all involved (all of the men, anyway) clearly had a blast making it.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 11 December 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, December 11, 2013 1:57 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
there's been rumblings of this for a bit, yeah. Who knows how true they are.
― papa smango (fadanuf4erybody), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 20:36 (ten years ago) link
tell me more
― Number None, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link
i kinda felt like the oscar win for scorsese was orchestrated in such a way that it came off as condescending (kinda like bigelow's win.)
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 20:40 (ten years ago) link
some funny semi-flaming over this on my FB
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link
I find the trailer at the top of this thread exquisitely charmless and unfunny. It gives me the same feeling I always got from watching John Lithgow and 3rd Rock From the Sun, like hey we're all just letting it all hang out and having a blast, and me I wanna put my foot through the screen.
― I was a teenage oenophile (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 21:11 (ten years ago) link
otm, but an al leong endorsement bears more weight than a trailer
― |$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 21:20 (ten years ago) link
part of me feels this movie has as much in common with a jody hill movie as a scorsese/"wall street"/"boiler room" type movie in some ways
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 21:23 (ten years ago) link
i believe in my boy al leong
― Hungry4Ass, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 21:24 (ten years ago) link
Tossing in some chips for fellow azn al leong as well
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 21:25 (ten years ago) link
It says something that, barely half a day after watching it, the only bits that stand out in my brain involve Jon Bernthal and Kyle Chandler, who get about 20 minutes' screentime between them.
― Simon H., Thursday, 12 December 2013 06:30 (ten years ago) link
Chandler's scene on the yacht is the best in the movie.
― Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Thursday, 12 December 2013 14:02 (ten years ago) link
Chandler was super in The Spectacular Now. This guy needs a better press agent.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 December 2013 14:03 (ten years ago) link
Glenn Kenny just listed this as his 3rd-fave of the year. I'll be curious to read his (eventual) take.
― Simon H., Thursday, 12 December 2013 14:46 (ten years ago) link
Richard Brody put it at #1, which is really the only place on a top 10 list it makes sense to slot it; it's an all-in kind of movie.
― Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Thursday, 12 December 2013 14:55 (ten years ago) link
Are you two related
― 乒乓, Thursday, 12 December 2013 14:56 (ten years ago) link
“I’m very happy with this. Leo DiCaprio, we kind of see things the same way. We have similar sensibilities and we want to make a certain kind of statement, hence the projects we choose. I chose Gangs of New York and Shutter Island. He wanted to do The Aviator. I chose The Departed. He wanted to do this new film.”
“That’s one of the reasons we made The Wolf of Wall Street, not to show the greed, but to be in the greed, to be part of it, part of the exaltation of it, part of the excitement of it and part of the destruction it causes.”
“After the war, I remember America in the 1950s, yes it was more innocent, more quote/ unquote repressed, no doubt, culturally, to a certain extent. I don’t remember, honestly, and we weren’t taught a great deal in certain schools, in certain specific things about American history, but I don’t remember them saying that the country was formed only so that everybody could get rich, I just don’t believe it. That feels, for me right now, that is what it feels like.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/martin-scorsese-in-conversation-guilt-trips-of-the-great-director-9000873.html
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 December 2013 20:32 (ten years ago) link
Well, "flatulent black comedy" sounds better than Jesse & Celine.
http://www.fandor.com/blog/daily-martin-scorseses-the-wolf-of-wall-street
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 16:02 (ten years ago) link
My holiday gift to myself is going to be avoiding the comments on that one.
― Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 16:25 (ten years ago) link