I will say that I don't always love his sound -- it can be on the dry and dead side for my tastes.
― signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 20:17 (ten years ago) link
Pram has a singer?
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 20:40 (ten years ago) link
Yes, Rosie! Its p much 'her' band iirc? Listen to 'chrysalis' on ye spotify!
― yes, i have seen the documentary (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link
Don't hold Weckyl's '80s hair against him.
Gadd looks smug because he is a survivor. Aaaaample drugs.
Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-2ylOmIkzU
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link
Grrr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-2ylOmIkzU
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link
I've been following this thread for 2 weeks and just noticed Baker's name. There's absolutely no way that Ginger rates with either of the other two, that's just silly.
― "Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 22:49 (ten years ago) link
ginger baker is a dude who like ever since I have been playing drums I have heard people rating highly and then I would check him out, and even when I was a beginner I was kind of scratching my head, like maybe there was something I didn't get about the nuance of his drumming
― signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 23:17 (ten years ago) link
There is no nuance in his drumming, that's the point. Like Elvin Jones said, "This guy plays like he has delusions of grandeur".
― "Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 23:21 (ten years ago) link
there are only two drummers who've done work that I insist on making people listen to (as in "you gotta check out the drumming on this track"). Jaki and Jim White. Bruford is amazing but it's like he's not even human, I dunno.
― sleeve, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 23:28 (ten years ago) link
nb: I am not a drummer
I think Mitch Mitchell is a drummer from the same era who wears "jazz influence" way better than Baker and gets a lot less credit. I love Mitch Mitchell's drumming.
― signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 23:33 (ten years ago) link
Mitchell! Spanish Castle Magic...those triplet fills!
― I can't keep up, I can't keep up, I can't keep up (calstars), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 23:51 (ten years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Thursday, 5 December 2013 00:01 (ten years ago) link
I think I had such a tough time with this I ended up not voting. But on balance my love for KC pushes it to Bruford.
― "Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 5 December 2013 00:04 (ten years ago) link
ooooooommmmmmmmggggggg i don't know how i avoided knowing this before, but i just learned that Jaki's bday is the same as three of my best friends (5/26 -- happy belated birthday!)
also he was born in 1938 so he's getting pretty old! he's still in good health right?
― La Lechera, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 13:13 (nine years ago) link
how is his ticker
― j., Thursday, 5 June 2014 02:40 (nine years ago) link
Reliable iirc
― La Lechera, Thursday, 5 June 2014 03:10 (nine years ago) link
i finally got around to buying secret rhythms -- i got #3 -- are the rest of them as good as #3? what is he doing these days? i know he was interviewed for the tago mago 33 1/3 book but i haven't read it.
― groundless round (La Lechera), Tuesday, 24 February 2015 14:35 (nine years ago) link
happy 77th bday to Jaki!!
― Florianne Fracke (La Lechera), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link
HB JL!!!
I defer to him as the ne plus ultra of JLs
Just ordered the tago mago book last week actually
― demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:02 (eight years ago) link
Shook the great man's hand last night, no photo evidence unfortunately. He seems a bit deaf (he is 77 after all) so didn't try to engage him in conversation.
― The Manner of Crawly (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 09:11 (eight years ago) link
More info pls! Did you see him play?
― Florianne Fracke (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 11:34 (eight years ago) link
Yeah he was playing with Hans-Joachim Irmler of Faust. Playing a tiny drumkit which barely came up to his knees, no bass drum. Irmler was playing his original homemade organ from early Faust days, which I made sure I had a good look at, it really is homemade!
― The Manner of Crawly (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 11:42 (eight years ago) link
What kind of stuff did Jaki play? What else is he doing these days? I saw that Ginger Baker is playing here (Chicago) and turned up my nose but I would elbow people out of the way to see Jaki.
― Florianne Fracke (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 13:36 (eight years ago) link
I am supporting them tonight. *shitting it shitting it shitting it*
― emil.y, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 13:40 (eight years ago) link
omg shut upreally?!
do you have a plan? have you rehearsed the plan? will you at least promise to report back in florid detail?
― Florianne Fracke (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 13:42 (eight years ago) link
Yep really. Supported Irmler before (he's REALLY NICE) but Liebezeit is making me wobble. I don't know if I will be able to even say hello. Particularly because my new band is ridiculous and they really might hate it.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 13:46 (eight years ago) link
I doubt it, and anyway you can't think like that -- what would you do in the best case scenario? What a dream.
― Florianne Fracke (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 13:52 (eight years ago) link
Playing a tiny drumkit which barely came up to his knees, no bass drum
huh, had to look up his setup after reading this, i like it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBiYWjAfCDE
― lil urbane (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 14:11 (eight years ago) link
Jaki seemed like a wonderful old fellow, really enjoying himself and delighted with sheer love being beamed at him by the audience... I'm sure H-J didn't mind, he's Jaki Liebezeit after all.
― The Manner of Crawly (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 14:17 (eight years ago) link
(xp) There was an interview and Q&A after the gig and Jaki explained why he'd abandoned the traditional jazz/rock kit, he called the hi-hat, the "Charleston Machine ", because he said it was added to the drumkit at the time of the Charleston craze... don't know if that's true but it's a good story!
― The Manner of Crawly (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 14:21 (eight years ago) link
going to miss Jaki tonight because of various things, but good luck emil.y!
― feargal czukay (NickB), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:18 (eight years ago) link
emil.y please wear a vest (chain mail optional) and then think about irmin s in this videoyou could also pull some of those dance moveshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4nHr44vE9I
― Florianne Fracke (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:24 (eight years ago) link
This will mean nothing to American ILXors and very little to UK ILXors either, but this guy was at the gig last night, goin' apeshit.
― The Manner of Crawly (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:29 (eight years ago) link
but Liebezeit is making me wobble
i see what u did there
― demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:31 (eight years ago) link
Jaki was very much shy/not speaking much English, but Jochen is so so nice. But even just being around for the soundcheck, where drum tests are always the worst part, and I just thought... this is not the worst, it's the fucking drummer from Can. Holy crap. I am a ridiculous human, mind you.
― emil.y, Thursday, 18 June 2015 03:05 (eight years ago) link
Also we were trying to take sneaky photos backstage but then they took photos of us. <3 <3 <3
― emil.y, Thursday, 18 June 2015 03:07 (eight years ago) link
Wow!
― the discreet charm of the georgeoisie (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 18 June 2015 20:05 (eight years ago) link
I'm glad it was a positive experience!! I want him to live forever if possible.
― Florianne Fracke (La Lechera), Thursday, 18 June 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link
Unless he wants to retire his human half and carry on as a machine. That'd be ok.
― Florianne Fracke (La Lechera), Thursday, 18 June 2015 20:20 (eight years ago) link
Picked up Cyclopean at the store today, Irmin Schmidt is on it too -- reminds me a lot of the Secret Rhythms stuff (Burnt Friedman is on it too)It's really short and sounds like one long song. I like it.
― La Lechera, Saturday, 15 August 2015 22:46 (eight years ago) link
The Baker family are sad to announce that Ginger is critically ill in hospital. Please keep him in your prayers tonight— Ginger Baker (@GingerBDrums) September 25, 2019
― flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 20:47 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lncs2pjrau4
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1nw-G4_bVk
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 19:25 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vNcgL9Fi4w
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 20:03 (four years ago) link
https://www.eventbrite.ie/e/prog-rock-grooves-jaki-liebezeit-the-nature-of-rhythm-tickets-119431766629a tribute toi Jaki as part of the Culture NIght celebration tonight.not sure what status is on tickets and how limited tehy are so best to try to book one as soon as you see this if you can.
― Stevolende, Friday, 18 September 2020 11:17 (three years ago) link
THis worked while the event was livehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNkWUDCZ6QA
or asa Url www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNkWUDCZ6QA
― Stevolende, Friday, 18 September 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link
ok, that link appears to start at about the right place. I noticed the one i had on Facebook started 3hrs and 9 minutes into a longer recording. Looks like that's bookmarked at the right point though
― Stevolende, Saturday, 19 September 2020 10:36 (three years ago) link