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Yup. Covering Lord Buckley.

jaywbabcock, Saturday, 30 November 2013 19:15 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

awesome

hope he doesn't spend it all on crack

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:36 (nine years ago) link

^^^

Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link

I got that Stone Flower comp over the holidays, so great. Inner sleeve is just a giant photo of his Rhythm Ace.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:42 (nine years ago) link

wish he'd managed a whole album with little sister

#Research (stevie), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:45 (nine years ago) link

stanga is my jam, and i would always play it when i dj'd regularly, back in the 00s

#Research (stevie), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:45 (nine years ago) link

Just thinking about Sly's utterly wasted genius makes me sad. I'm glad he got the $$$, maybe he can use some of it to get healthy.

Dokken played here for a Ribfest and people were total assholes (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:55 (nine years ago) link

eh he had a pretty amazing run. I am sad his last few decades have been such a mess, seems like a lot of unhealthiness/unhappiness but what do I know

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:06 (nine years ago) link

Well, George Clinton finally got off crack at 70, hopefully Sly can too.

Dokken played here for a Ribfest and people were total assholes (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:24 (nine years ago) link

George's matter-of-fact discussion of his love affair w crack in his autobio is p eye-opening

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:33 (nine years ago) link

Don't know if anyone read Duff McKagan's bio, but he talks about Sly living in a pretty awful apartment close to the whole GN'R crew before they made it big. How this guy is still alive is beyond me.

DavidLeeRoth, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:17 (nine years ago) link

I'd be surprised if Sly ever collects on this, but who knows. I'm also surprised that anybody ever tried to be his 'manager' post-1969. As for being homeless... that's been debunked. He just moves "when things get weird." Apparently.

jaywbabcock, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:24 (nine years ago) link

he wasn't living out of his car?

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 23:11 (nine years ago) link

homeless implies being so poor you can't afford a place to live, which was not really ever the case with Sly afaik

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 23:37 (nine years ago) link

The Funkadelic 3cd set with Sly's track just came out, Christmas just gone.

Mark G, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 23:41 (nine years ago) link

link?

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 23:44 (nine years ago) link

http://georgeclinton.com/first-ya-gotta-shake-the-gate/

I haven't heard it

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 23:47 (nine years ago) link

this is the sly track (or at least one of them?) which is also upthread iirc:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbPLMpgRc-o

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 23:48 (nine years ago) link

It's awful, unworthy of the Funkadelic name IMO.

I didn't like it much at first either. But the song does grow on you. Likewise, the new Funkadelic record is as much of an unfocused hodgepodge as GC and the P-Funk All Stars' How Late Do U Have 2BB4 UR Absent?, but even at 3 discs it's marginally more consistent, and Sly provides some of the most interesting moments. It really is Funkadelic in name only, though.

Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:24 (nine years ago) link

the last Clinton album that I enjoyed was Dope Dogs, each album since has been a p random smorgasbord of stuff. which, to be fair, can also be said of a fair amount of his peak period output, just with better players/ideas. Is Sly on more than one track...?

Οὖτις, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:27 (nine years ago) link

I feel like George is only as good as his collaborators and he didn't get anybody good here. Way too much autotune (especially on Sly) and songs that give you a verse and not much more for about twice or three times as long as they need to be. It gets a little better on the 3rd disc but overall I don't expect to listen to it again.

the first disc on the 'funkadelic' is truly awful.

Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link

oh, it's a /new/ funkadelic album? no thanks. :(

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 30 January 2015 08:06 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

SLY & THE FAMILY STONE—LIVE AT THE FILLMORE EAST OCTOBER 4th & 5th 1968 4CD BOX!

http://www.complex.com/music/2015/04/sly-and-the-family-stone-premiere

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 15 April 2015 18:01 (nine years ago) link

radical

tylerw, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 18:01 (nine years ago) link

Just hope it turns up as affordable this side of the Atlantic.
Not sure what the $60 I've heard it is likely to be is going to translate to when it appears. I think that price may be an early Amazon pre-order thing so not sure how accurate that is anyway.

I had a few live sets by them a couple of years ago but not sure if I still have any since they may have been on a crashed harddrive.

There is a Woodstock set in the Anniversary series for the festival isn't there but the band is seriously under represented in official live sets.

There used to be a couple of multi volume dvd sets doing the bootleg rounds from what I remember too. They had some really good stuff on too

Stevolende, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 21:24 (nine years ago) link

jsut saw this one for the 1st time a little while ago. so great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mH7194qDqI

tylerw, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 21:25 (nine years ago) link

that's a great set

I'm not super-excited about this tho tbh, not my favorite live period of theirs

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link

I am curious to hear them do St. James Infirmary tho. that's an odd song for them to do.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 21:29 (nine years ago) link

mentioned in passing above, but say it again yall: I'm Just Like You: Sly's Stone Flower1969-70
---not perfect but so damn good.
Here's the trailer (too brief)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oCyHAhJgFA
and LITA link for samples of all tracks and more info
http://lightintheattic.net/releases/1451-i-m-just-like-you-sly-s-stone-flower-1969-70

dow, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 22:59 (nine years ago) link

More backstory: for the Higher! box. Pre-release sampler's gone, but it was afuckingmazing. I gotta get the box, although may have a little overlap with I'm Just Like You and other collections.

dow, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 23:03 (nine years ago) link

Damn, missed the link, sorry:
http://www.npr.org/2013/08/18/212367961/first-listen-sly-and-the-family-stone-highlights-from-higher

dow, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 23:03 (nine years ago) link

jsut saw this one for the 1st time a little while ago. so great

Thanks for posting -- I always wondered where this footage was from. It was used in Montgomery Burns' Jazz series on PBS to illustrate why Miles went electric. Wynton Marsalis and George Wein talked about how Miles saw Sly at the Newport Festival in 1969, saw the effect Sly had on the audience, and realized, in Wynton's words, "that he was an old man playing trumpet in a jazz band" and thus decided to go electric.

Except, when Miles played Newport in 1969 he's already recorded In A Silent Way; the band at Newport included Chick Corea and Dave Holland; and his set at Newport included material that would later turn up on Bitches Brew. But back to Sly, I always assumed this footage was from Newport, and wondered if the other Newport sets that year -- Miles, Zeppelin, Jeff Beck, James Brown, Sun Ra -- were filmed.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 16 April 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link

ha, i just watched part of that episode last night. yeah, needed some factchecking. miles was definitely influenced by sly, but as is the norm for the burns doc, it is more complex than all that.
don't think i've ever seen footage from newport 69, though that would be great. jazz (and other things) on a summer's day part II.

tylerw, Thursday, 16 April 2015 17:23 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, I mean, the lineup...
http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmumkogZn41qh7tzmo1_1280.jpg

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 16 April 2015 17:30 (nine years ago) link

all of those festivals, it seems like it'd be a no-brainer to have a film crew on hand, but obviously that did not always happen.

tylerw, Thursday, 16 April 2015 17:31 (nine years ago) link

Totally. Or sometimes, when there was a film crew, it took decades for the film to get finished/released (Message To Love, Soul Power).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 16 April 2015 17:34 (nine years ago) link

the amougies film still hasn't seen official release.

rushomancy, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:04 (nine years ago) link

holy shit @ that festival lineup

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:15 (nine years ago) link

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Recorded-Live-At-Newport-In-New-York/release/1182883

On a related note I picked this ^^^^ up the other week and it is great and oh my god why has no one released the full length live sets from Stevie and Donny et al

NotKnowPotato (stevie), Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:26 (nine years ago) link

Like, I learned a while back that all four nights at the Bitter End Curtis Mayfield played for Curtis Live were recorded, and I'm like, I want to hear all of that.

NotKnowPotato (stevie), Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:27 (nine years ago) link

wait so miles was second on the bill at newport??

NotKnowPotato (stevie), Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:28 (nine years ago) link

not sure if the poster is in order of importance... maybe though. did gary burton have some huge summer of 69 hit?
and yeah, good lord, why haven't they put out a complete curtis live box set, give me a break.

tylerw, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:34 (nine years ago) link

Burton was definitely big-time then, and Miles was still playing clubs in the US (he didn't hit the rock halls until months later), so it's not inconceivable that Burton would headline over Miles.

But I dunno how accurate those running orders are...if I was George Wein, I'd have Zeppelin close, rather than open, the final night.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link

I wonder if "Jeff Beck" means the classic Rod, Dunbar, Ron Wood lineup or something different?

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link

at least rod was there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lNIWaei3RI

tylerw, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:50 (nine years ago) link

eesh ^^ this smokes

tylerw, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:55 (nine years ago) link

Indeed it does!

There used to be a stream of a 1968 Detroit Jeff Beck show (with Mickey Waller and Nicky Hopkins!) on Wolfgang's Vault, but apparently it's gone. Supposedly, the Jeff Beck Group and the Who were the only two touring acts not to be blown off the Grande stage by the MC5.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:59 (nine years ago) link


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