Should Pope Francis sell the family jewels?

yeah it got alot of press, almost certainly due to francis' previous statements. jpII spent the post-cold war part of his papacy making similar (if more muted) statements but w/ him there were so many other things in his agenda that were more of a focus and that coaligned more w/ conservative evangelical interests it never got much play. plus arguably the atmosphere is different, more ready to hear that message now than during jpII's day. it's interesting cuz catholicism's become this weird marker of intellectualism w/ the right, nro clowns, the conservative scotus justices, and obv newt gingrich.

My right wing cousin and host praised Francis' messages and scorned Obama's "closing of the Vatican embassy just when it has the potential of being influential again".

The less-than-awesome stuff this Pope has already been involved in has been cataloged already, and shouldn't be dismissed,

what is this stuff?

The church

Let's agree that the church has backward agendas on sexuality and equality for women. They do some other stuff that's good -- feeding the hungry, running hospitals, etc.

this guy is the pope of good PR

I keep thinking there's gotta be a catch.

― a fifth of misty beethoven (cryptosicko), Thursday, November 28, 2013 8:55 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I know, right? I keep reminding myself to temper my enthusiasm for this guy.

by all accounts he's just a fantastic guy. he's a product of his upbringing and of his background -- all popes are going to be -- but laying out his priorities like this, taking a moral stance against markets, etc, these things matter

i mean i'd love it if he called for the ordination of women or supported civil unions, but that's just not going to happen. the fact that he's called for these issues to be deemphasized is a pretty big step. and you know, imo, economic issues are more important anyway, so i'm glad he's being as forceful as he is.

isn't there some reasonably critical summit or juncture sometime soon at which like at least attitudes toward gay marriage are addressed? feel like amy davidson was suggesting it was a kinda litmus test for him in swashbuckling rhetoric vs effect

wkiw this dude:

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/12/03/pope-i-was-once-a-bar-bouncer/?hpt=hp_c2

priests' laundry, so you know he has seen some dark shit

Would kill to read an interview with Benedict about Pope Frankie.

<3
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/vatican-refuses-to-share-sex-abuse-investigations-with-un-1.1616591
<3

Church so cool now that pope frank is dropping commie tracts <3

you are absolutely correct and I regret my flippant post from yesterday, if I had a beer with the dude his goons would probably throw me out of a helicopter afterwards

TIME Person of the Year

http://i.imgur.com/421606U.jpg

Miley Cyrus picks up a copy, thinks: "KLo was right! I am the Person of the Year!"

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/71676000/jpg/_71676112_71676107.jpg
Pope-ing ain't easy!

Didn't think of it til now, but am now realizing what a bullet we dodged in electing him as POTY rather than Miley Cyrus.

or pope, even

Let's agree that the church has backward agendas on sexuality and equality for women. They do some other stuff that's good -- feeding the hungry, running hospitals, etc.

― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Friday, November 29, 2013 4:51 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

gabbneb

gotta love how me and morbs are over here being the catholic iatees, but morbs otm

― druhilla (k3vin k.), Saturday, September 21, 2013 11:01 AM (2 months ago)

the catholic church actually owns allot of real estate

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/financial-scandals-the-hidden-wealth-of-the-catholic-church-a-700513.html

hey Matt u have yr Democratic Church

also PFI saved Time from having to transparently not pick Snowden

or assad. basically any greenwald hero.

http://www.startribune.com/world/238706881.html

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Pope to nuns: Why aren't you answering the phone? Francis cold-calls nuns, gets machine

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Updated: January 4, 2014 - 1:09 PM

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Pope Francis smiles as he leaves Rome's Jesus' Church to celebrate a mass with the Jesuits, on the occasion of the order's titular feast, Friday, Jan. 3, 2014.

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VATICAN CITY — Pope Francis has made another one of his cold calls to wish a group of nuns in a Spanish convent Happy New Year. Only he got their answering machine, instead.

"What are the nuns doing that they can't answer the phone?" Francis asked in the message he left, the recording of which was obtained by Spain's El Mundo newspaper and broadcast on Italian media Saturday.

"This is Pope Francis. I wanted to offer you greetings for the end of the year. Maybe I'll try to call again later. May God bless you," he said.

Francis has made a habit out of calling people out of the blue, often checking in with ordinary folk who have written him about their hardships. He places the calls himself, as evidenced by the message.

sad pope trombone.wav

but seriously, wtf were the nuns doing

Nunthings.

pope stops to think about what the nuns could possibly be doing

pope orders inquiry into what do nuns do all day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oRoVAdhtoc

pope gives a guy a lift

Heeeyyyy I'm just an ordinary guyyyyyyyy, me, just popin away the days bein all chillllll

Only a matter of time before he kicks off the apocalypse and the mask falls

I secretly hope the nuns were doing some weird druidic ritual in a dark fiery cave, nude

brb casting a nunsploitation thriller

Every fifteen minutes cut back to the answering machine.

Popeshot

chocolate pope

http://i1.wp.com/www.equinoxpub.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Chocolate-Pope.jpg

Gainin' on ya

If you eat his nose first, he says "Who am I to judge?"

Where I come from the pope's nose is edible, but it isn't made of chocolate.

man, what are ya supposed to say to someone who plops you in front of a life-sized chocolate statue of yourself

You say thank you very much, then later that someone gets fired.

later that day

they could at least have made the vestments out of white chocolate so he could play pranks around the residence with it

as is it would make for some ok antipope jokes

pope gives up chocolate for Lent. troll pope with giant chocolate statue of pope.

This is unexpected

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2014/03/05/pope-francis-church-could-support-civil-unions/