DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

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http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/nov/27/boris-johnson-thatcher-greed-good

FUCK OFF BORIS

lex pretend, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 22:27 (ten years ago) link

Was just about to post that.

In highly provocative remarks, Johnson also said that more should be done to help the 2% of the population who have an IQ above 130 than the 16% "of our species" with an IQ below 85

Warning that the accession of Romania to the EU means that London can do nothing to stop the "entire population of Transylvania" from pitching their tents in Marble Arch.

Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 22:31 (ten years ago) link

Imagining Tim Curry as Frank'n'Furter 'pitching a tent' in Marble Arch....

fashionably early Christmas themed display name (snoball), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 22:34 (ten years ago) link

lol what a ledge

a multimillionaire’s flippant reference to a “ho” (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 28 November 2013 00:29 (ten years ago) link

is this the moment boris fatally overestimates the ability of his "charm" to sell his vileness? i'm guessing not, but i'm hoping so.

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Thursday, 28 November 2013 07:27 (ten years ago) link

That depends on who you think he's trying to sell to. This isn't a pitch to the voting public - for the time being he doesn't have an election he has to worry about outside what will be presumably the safest available Tory seat in the country. It's a sales pitch aimed directly at the Conservative right and they will be wagging their filthy little tails at it.

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 November 2013 08:25 (ten years ago) link

Basically, it's him telling rich people in public all the things he's been telling them in private.

hatcat marnell (suzy), Thursday, 28 November 2013 08:28 (ten years ago) link

Whatever you may think of the value of IQ tests it is surely relevant to a conversation about equality that as many as 16% of our species have an IQ below 85 while about 2% …"

wouldn't such percentages (assuming it's correct) be the same for any species, given how IQ is defined?

^ sarcasm (ken c), Thursday, 28 November 2013 09:50 (ten years ago) link

haven't read he piece yet but i'm assuming that what he's basically saying is he wants to reduce taxes for those most able to get high-paid jobs while at the same time he wants to cut benefits for those who are possibly not be able to progress much beyond low-paid work?

space bl00ps (NickB), Thursday, 28 November 2013 10:15 (ten years ago) link

It'll provide the impetus for the low-paid worker to become a captain of industry.

Mark G, Thursday, 28 November 2013 10:18 (ten years ago) link

Using "species" in this context is Nazi talk.

Can't we get him to smoke crack and thereby get his hands tied by City Hall as per Rob Ford?

am pretty sure he's done the posh person's version of crack

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Thursday, 28 November 2013 10:30 (ten years ago) link

Boris is only articulating the underpinning assumptions of his Party, don't know why people get excited when one of them says it out loud.

Noodle of the Vague family (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 November 2013 10:34 (ten years ago) link

it's the usual tory rhetoric but reframed as quasi-eugenics

space bl00ps (NickB), Thursday, 28 November 2013 10:39 (ten years ago) link

i keep hoping that when it's said aloud, the cold light of day will reveal it to be fascist claptrap. i still have some modicum of faith in the general public, i don't know why, and its almost doubtlessly misplaced.

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Thursday, 28 November 2013 10:39 (ten years ago) link

it's just - it's about publics, but it's also about a parliamentary system that puts power into a limited group of hands, and frames all debates as football matches. it's about the fact that many people distrust theoretical talk and prefer to follow their gut interests, it's about the way "enlightened" self-interest is equated with common sense, it's about people's fantasy of their own lives

Noodle of the Vague family (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 November 2013 10:47 (ten years ago) link

it's about the sense that everybody's in it for themselves except me

Noodle of the Vague family (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 November 2013 10:47 (ten years ago) link

The Margaret Thatcher International Airport

Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 28 November 2013 10:48 (ten years ago) link

would bomb

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Thursday, 28 November 2013 11:00 (ten years ago) link

[obviously i would not bomb, that was just a stupid joke, pls not 2 arrest me]

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Thursday, 28 November 2013 11:00 (ten years ago) link

It strikes me as pretty easy for a stupid child from a rich background to do pretty well in life tbh.

I mean it is just a lot harder for some children to progress than others but a) this is hardly divorced from socioeconomic factors and b) all the more reason why these children need to be supported rather than just cut loose so the govt can focus on those at the top.

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 November 2013 11:03 (ten years ago) link

Only 30% of planes at Margaret Thatcher International Airport would ever take off in the first place.

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 November 2013 11:04 (ten years ago) link

the runway is not for turning

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Thursday, 28 November 2013 11:06 (ten years ago) link

They were flying away from the airport at the time, but permission to fire was still given.

fashionably early Christmas themed display name (snoball), Thursday, 28 November 2013 13:18 (ten years ago) link

A nation airport duty free section of shopkeepers people working on zero hour contracts for effectively below minimum wage.

fashionably early Christmas themed display name (snoball), Thursday, 28 November 2013 13:24 (ten years ago) link

The Denis Thatcher Memorial Duty Free Zone

Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 November 2013 13:38 (ten years ago) link

Superb work itt today imo

30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 November 2013 13:50 (ten years ago) link

lol Garda

Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 28 November 2013 13:52 (ten years ago) link

No lounge but a first class lounge

30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 November 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link

Check in privilege

30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 November 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link

If you want something done, ask a man. If you want something done, ask a woman also as both men and women work on our information team.

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Thursday, 28 November 2013 14:01 (ten years ago) link

The Airey Neave Memorial Car Park best avoided tbh

Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 November 2013 14:02 (ten years ago) link

It'll transpire a couple of years down the line that Mark Thatcher has been letting his friends from school organise bombing raids on Gabon from a runway out the back.

Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Thursday, 28 November 2013 14:15 (ten years ago) link

Then shortly afterwards it'll be discovered that they were so incompetent that they'd been bombing Michael Gambon by mistake.

fashionably early Christmas themed display name (snoball), Thursday, 28 November 2013 14:22 (ten years ago) link

the runway is not for turning

― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Thursday, November 28, 2013 11:06 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh man...!

a beef supreme (dog latin), Thursday, 28 November 2013 14:26 (ten years ago) link

Ryanair's fleet of aircraft to be denied the oxygen masks of publicity

Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 November 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link

Not “only those with high IQs can rise to the top” but “only those born to the right parents, who went to the right school and joined the right societies at university can rise to the top.”

Personally I think the Tories have gone mad, and that goes for the Mayor and the rightwing press and everybody else involved. You can tell; they’ve given up even pretending to listen to anybody else’s point of view, they've gone into their own little huddly corner, convinced they and nobody else are right.

The depressing thing is that they have a sporting chance of getting back in come 2015 because most British people seem to want to be turkeys voting for Christmas.

Less of the British, mate

Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 November 2013 15:41 (ten years ago) link

I think the most distressing thing about this speech is, despite being probably one of the most unabashedly fascist public statements I've read from a mainstream politician in years, that because it's tumbling out of the mouth of fuzzy Boris bear it's going to get people laughing and nodding or dismissing it as 'a bit of fun'. Boris frightens me. I think he's one of the most dangerous people in the UK political sphere today.

a beef supreme (dog latin), Thursday, 28 November 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link

Tom D xpost: That won't happen either because people are more concerned about whether they will still be able to watch Doctor Fucking Who on the telly than whether they'll have any kind of economic future.

What I meant was that Scottish voters are unlikely to be a contributory factor in the election of a Conservative government in 2015

Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 November 2013 15:49 (ten years ago) link

It's true. They'll vote for right wing Labour MPs instead.

Do you ever self-reflect?

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Thursday, 28 November 2013 15:53 (ten years ago) link

Boris has got form for this sort of thing:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/mayor/boris-says-sorry-over-blacks-have-lower-iqs-article-in-the-spectator-6630340.html

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 November 2013 15:58 (ten years ago) link

but ken was the racist one, if i remember certain ilxors from a few years back correctly... [not that ken was remotely without blemish, but...]

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Thursday, 28 November 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link

I thought he was the anti-Semite? So hard to keep track.

whilsting away the day (onimo), Thursday, 28 November 2013 16:04 (ten years ago) link

I tell you what, let's not bother having any government. They're all hypocrites and none of them is Jesus Christ. What's the point?

I can never tell when you're being serious or making some "satirical" "point" anymore, can you?

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Thursday, 28 November 2013 16:12 (ten years ago) link

That's the wonder of Woolworth's.

i can't believe noone else is outraged by the unashamed misunderstanding of how IQ is calculated

^ sarcasm (ken c), Thursday, 28 November 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link


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