Who the fuck is 'mang'?!
― I can still taste the Taboo in my mouth when I hear those songs (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link
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― mh, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link
Luke Abbott's new album is doing more for me on first play than the James Holden one ever really managed.
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 21:37 (nine years ago) link
Anyone else go to the Holden/Koreless/Luke Abbott Terry Riley homaging thing at the Barbican last night? SO GOOD.
― Matt DC, Friday, 10 April 2015 13:17 (nine years ago) link
Sounds interesting. What was it like?
Funny, I dug out an old mix of Border Community stuff I made back in '06 to listen to at the gym just yesterday.
― but then again, who really cares? I don’t. (dog latin), Friday, 10 April 2015 13:20 (nine years ago) link
Going to see James Holden again next month! His live setup sounds cool.
― mh, Friday, 10 April 2015 13:41 (nine years ago) link
Long modular synth pieces (c. 40mins) from both Holden and Abbott. Abbott's was a big drone piece, essentially, Holden's was incredible. He had a (fairly restrained) tabla player with him and the were sitting opposite one another, he hit on this one gorgeous melody and just let it run and run and run, building and building more synth lines over the top of it.
Koreless had a ten-piece string section, all sitting in a line, in the dark, each with one large light bulb in front of them. Each player played one note and one note only whenever their light came on, playing it differently according to the brightness and duration of the light. Koreless was off to the side of the stage, controlling the lights via computer and therefore essentially both conducting and scoring the piece in real time. It wasn't that minimal, the patterns kept changing and getting more and more complex, the whole thing was astonishing actually.
― Matt DC, Friday, 10 April 2015 13:59 (nine years ago) link
that sounds fantastic. i'd love to hear a version of In C played entirely on digital instruments or whatever...
― but then again, who really cares? I don’t. (dog latin), Friday, 10 April 2015 14:00 (nine years ago) link
sounds amazing
― the most painstaking, humorless people in the world (lukas), Friday, 10 April 2015 16:28 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQsHZ0eyPl8
new james holden finally out next month, strongly suspect it's going to be incredible
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Monday, 23 October 2017 22:05 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58y6Kdv9ZV4
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Monday, 23 October 2017 22:07 (six years ago) link
out on november 3 on border community
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Monday, 23 October 2017 22:08 (six years ago) link
nice!
I was relistening to James Holden's "At the Controls" mix the other day and remembering how enjoyable his style is
― mh, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 14:57 (six years ago) link
Out tomorrow. Hope I can pick it up.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 2 November 2017 16:21 (six years ago) link
the glass is half full = the synthesizers are wildly too loud in the mix
the glass is half empty = the drums are way too quiet in the mix
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 2 November 2017 16:55 (six years ago) link
really liking this so far. some of it is very... boredoms?
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 3 November 2017 07:54 (six years ago) link
this is straight solar energy music
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 3 November 2017 08:00 (six years ago) link
okay it's all gone a bit steve hillage now
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 3 November 2017 08:07 (six years ago) link
yurt the fuck out, people!
(rly good record btw)
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 3 November 2017 08:38 (six years ago) link
Thunder Moon Gathering is so good, a step out into this huge dark space. But yes, drums could be louder
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 3 November 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link
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you're making this sound awesome
― the late great, Friday, 3 November 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link
i'm digging it.
― dan selzer, Friday, 3 November 2017 17:57 (six years ago) link
i remember when the last holden album came out, there was a small rush of cool cosmic techno in a similar vein around that time, stuff like stellar om source "joy one mile" and huerco s "colonial patterns"
i like that sound
― the late great, Friday, 3 November 2017 18:16 (six years ago) link
it's harder to feel any techno roots in this one tbh, feels more like it's coming more from psych rock and jazz and non-western folk musics
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 3 November 2017 18:20 (six years ago) link
interesting! can't wait to listen
― the late great, Friday, 3 November 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link
Holden is virtually unique among 00s house and techno producers in that his steps away from the dancefloor have made him more interesting rather than less.
Fucking loved this on first instance, crazy cosmic Wicker Man pagan forest festival music. Some of the early tracks seem to have hit on some halfway point between Cluster or Harmonia and I dunno Pentangle or someone.
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 November 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link
not sure which producers you're thinking of, but i think in the case of a lot of what i am thinking about the producers have moved from experimental music more toward dance music as opposed to moving in the other direction (like holden)
personally i think holden is interesting in both modes - still love his "balance" and "at the control" mixes
― the late great, Friday, 3 November 2017 18:47 (six years ago) link
Yeah I wasn't responding to your post in particular (I love Joy One Mile and had no idea that Stella Om Source was coming to dance music from a different background). Holden's mixes are good ('At The Controls' is great) but as a producer he was never especially interesting to me, even if his original sound has been aped to death in the intervening years.
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 November 2017 18:54 (six years ago) link
The one track on this that really sounds like it might be borne out of techno is also the one thing that sounds kind of like a radiohead jam (each moment like the first)
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 3 November 2017 19:04 (six years ago) link
When I say techno I probably actually just mean boards of candada tbh
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 3 November 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link
Shamanic psych Sun Ra jazz techno. Perfect music for a ayahuasca trip. This is truly an album for our 10s times.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 3 November 2017 22:06 (six years ago) link
have you done ayahuasca or is this a conjecture
― mh, Saturday, 4 November 2017 01:57 (six years ago) link
this reminds me of when [redacted] got sonned by [redacted] in a cocaine beef
― the late great, Saturday, 4 November 2017 02:02 (six years ago) link
I’ve got the music here, just pondering
― mh, Saturday, 4 November 2017 14:40 (six years ago) link
This does exactly what I hoped it would.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 4 November 2017 17:03 (six years ago) link
Excellent album
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 4 November 2017 20:55 (six years ago) link
listening to this now, and it sounds like Popol Vuh!
― Dominique, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 19:27 (six years ago) link
also, was going to say the closest companion to this is the recent Floating Points stuff (tho this is a little wilder) -- and forgot they had actually been on an EP together w/Maalem Mahmoud Guinia in 2015.
― Dominique, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 19:35 (six years ago) link
I haven't been able to get into Floating Points...it was just too clean and refined. Holden w/ his modular fun has been able to grab that live exciting noisy everythings out of control kind of vibe thats hard to do (actually it's easy to do, but it's hard to do it while still being in control?)
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 20:24 (six years ago) link
yeah, FP tends to err on the side of post rock that I find a bit boring, but when he gets it, he really get it (I would say Kuiper is the closest to this). But really impressed at this Holden thing, guess I'll have to go back and check his recent stuff.
― Dominique, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 20:59 (six years ago) link
oh my god this rules
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 21:19 (six years ago) link
i don't get much out of floating points but their new record that sounds like Meddle/DSOTM is GREAT
― brimstead, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link
Dominique if you slept on the inheritors please listen ASAP.
― dan selzer, Thursday, 9 November 2017 00:04 (six years ago) link
Played it at record club: https://devonrecordclub.com/2017/11/09/james-holden-the-animal-spirits-the-animal-spirits-round-104-nicks-choice/
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 9 November 2017 14:00 (six years ago) link
looks like he's touring, but mostly europe
someone check out the tour!
― mh, Thursday, 9 November 2017 14:53 (six years ago) link
I saw him at Le Poison Rouge a few years back, was great.
― dan selzer, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:29 (six years ago) link
also saw him a couple of years back touring 'the inheritors'. was just analogue synths and a live drummer - like a cave-rave version of silver apples. would love to see him with the full band
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:43 (six years ago) link
yup, saw him doing that tour at mutek
― mh, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:56 (six years ago) link
Great words, Nick. This descriptor is both notable and irresistible to those of us forever influenced by late Talk Talk or post-Japan Sylvian: "To go from control-freakish, micro-edited techno experiments to what’s essentially live, improvised kraut-jazz-prog-rock, is quite a move in only three albums." Even better that Holden's record easily meets the resulting expectations. Wonderful stuff.
― doug watson, Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link
just to say that any time the new record is playing, everyone in the car (i drive a fair bit) asks me what it is because they are entranced.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 8 June 2018 23:42 (five years ago) link