"I'm a sovereign human being, I stand under common law only" - Thread of Freemen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNhsRjsw4Yc&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PL5BED8DBAD7C515EF

conclusive evidence that if you talk bollocks in a magistrate's court you are outside of the law

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iWCCBhDZlc

cycling vigilantes, this is a new one

This is amusing and frightening that it's somehow become more prevalent than just America

i love the way they backslap each other on these videos showing how the police are powerless to deal with them but i desperately want to see the bits they haven't filmed where they get a proper kicking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xuv_AOC1nQ&feature=c4-overview&list=UUE28F7WMG2mqpbLokfIKsJg

seriously this guy is wonderful tho, he appears to go round on his bike looking for drivers to have a fight with

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzjv20sC5CY

yay, Canada bringing the FREEDOM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9yqBD8i07E

tbh winding up rozzers is fairly lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkM3Hc9Opxg

full on donnybrook, no idea what it's about tbh, lot of shouting about oaths and unlawfulness

Hitler was right:

Could have stopped there tbh

Not had a chance to look at vids cos I cant play them on this phone.
So may be missing ones talking about Irish alternative scene. I know that this Freeman thing was becoming popular a couple of years back. I heard of a few instances when I was on the Solidarity Camp. I also know that some people were aware of its origins and were trying to enlighten those interested in following the creed to its folly. So I'm surprised it retains popularity since I thought people had copped onto its flaws.
Otoh you can see why it would be attractive if it did work. Autonomy and self-responsibility are very attractive traits. Creeds adopted from right-wing Xian separatists shouldn't be. Unfortunately there is a major overlap.

i'm as sympathetic to anarchist politics as the next layabout but really if you want to devolve from the State you don't need a pseudo-legal fairy tale to justify it

And doing it cos you owes phat cash is a cunts yarn

^^^

again i am sympathetic to fucking with banks but

Guelph MP Frank Valeriote

Incidentally what's this? You have Ghibellines as well in Canada?

Some of these clowns tried to glom on to the Occupy movement(s) iirc.

Wd like to see a sentencing judge use the formula You're not a freeman of the land, you're a very naughty boy.

Specially if its a woman defendant lol

there's a broader truther/Icke-y/homeopath movement that's always intersected with radical activism

The cancer curers are the most saddening/maddening

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7V0GtUpsck

taking a brave stand against a cathedral raising money for hospices.

this guy is a real piece of work huh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agD3TNYHyDQ

things take a pretty bleak turn

which leads us to this

http://www.cpexposed.com/

Common Purpose is a political charity using Behavioural Modification

Common Purpose (CP) is a Charity, based in Great Britain, which creates ‘Future Leaders’ of society. CP selects individuals and ‘trains’ them to learn how society works, who 'pulls the levers of power' and how CP ‘graduates’ can use this knowledge to lead 'Outside Authority’.

Children, teenagers and adults have their prejudices removed. Graduates are ‘empowered’ to become ‘Leaders’ and work in ‘partnership’ with other CP graduates. CP claims to have trained some 30,000 adult graduates in UK and changed the lives of some 80,000 people, including schoolchildren and young people.

But evidence shows that Common Purpose is rather more than a Charity ‘empowering' people and communities’. In fact, CP is an elitest pro-EU political organisation helping to replace democracy in UK, and worldwide, with CP chosen ‘elite’ leaders. In truth, their hidden networks and political objectives are undermining and destroying our democratic society and are threatening ‘free will’ in adults, teenagers and children. Their work is funded by public money and big business, including international banks.

max has written some good stuff on these guys iirc

i have seen soooo many Guy Fawkes avatars in the last 24 hours

she challenged me over the course of 15 scribbled pages to prove that she was a person

Touch of the Myles na Gopaleens about that story

He made up less than youd think i guess, as i do myself

fondly remember some of the letters i got back when i worked for the Inland Rev, especially one that made repeated reference to THE TRIALS by FRANK KAFFER

max has written some good stuff on these guys iirc

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the american ones i mean

i found a piece by max about illuminati nuts, not the Freemen yet tho

i say this like that isn't 2 largely overlapping sets

yeah, if anyone has a link to max writing about these guys, i'd love to read it.

this one's sort of related: http://gawker.com/5729241/why-was-jared-loughner-obsessed-with-grammar

love these guys. ive never written any at length about them tho

Are these ppl actually mildly mentally retarded or something? Their logic is so selective and tenuous as to be non-existent. Their understanding of common law is thoroughly defective and unhistorical enough as to render their judgment essentially null.

I wonder what their wergild is?

They tend to be ppl for whom chancing it has worked thus far ime, or else ppl who feel that everyone else is chancing it and theye been left out (ime this is down to a total lack of appreciation for how societal rules actually operate)

in the vids i've posted some of the guys seem to be hippie/anarchist types, some of them are obv as darragh describes, some of them strike me as being a bit neurodiverse

I wish these guys would get into D&D or Pathfinder or something for a more productive channeling of their energies and need for explicit rules and structure written out in manual form

this thread has presented me with a variety of british accents I never knew existed

my favorite british accent is from ulster.

how many people got killed by people into the 'freeman' movement ?

the Anti-Defamation League published a report that described the so-called “sovereign citizen movement” as “one of the most problematic domestic extremist movements in the United States,” attracting mostly middle-aged or older men who are financially stressed, angry at government regulation or who want “something for nothing.”

The report cited the 2010 shooting deaths of two West Memphis, Ark., police officers during a traffic stop. The suspects, a father and son who were later killed in a shootout with police, belonged to the sovereign citizen movement.

2 at least.

It seems sorta like morgellons to me.

my favorite british accent is from ulster.

Brits out

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_West_Memphis_police_shootings#Background

The day after the shootings, Arkansas State Police identified the suspects as 45-year-old Jerry R. Kane Jr. and his 16-year-old son Joseph T. Kane. Jerry Kane had expressed sentiment against federal and local government online, and was accused of doing the same in person. Kane served three days in jail near Carrizozo, New Mexico for driving without a license and concealing his identity. He posted a $1,500 bond. After that incident, he complained of a "Nazi checkpoint".[citation needed]

Based on a 2004 conversation with Jerry Kane, Clark County Sheriff Gene Kelly expressed concern that Kane would be dangerous toward law enforcement. According to Kelly, Kane had complained about being "enslaved" by a judge who had sentenced him to serve six days of community service for driving with an expired license plate and no seat belt.[citation needed]
Insurance analyst J. J. MacNab observed that Kane ran a debt evasion business.[6] Jerry Kane also posted $10,000 bond (which a judge later ordered forfeited) on charges of forgery and attempted grand theft of a motor vehicle filed in Miamisburg, Ohio. Although Kane was arrested in New Mexico, he was never extradited to Ohio

seems they were quite into that lifestyle and their crazy believes triggered the incident.

operation endearing freeman

i wonder if the shootings have informed this heavy emphasis the UK guys place on being peacable, or if it's just that the UK guys have nothing to defend themselves with if the cops decide to break out the batons

Kane had complained about being "enslaved" by a judge who had sentenced him to serve six days of community service for driving with an expired license plate and no seat belt.

it's always petty shit that drives these people nuts.

what a horrible story. i hope that son can break free of his dad's influence in whatever is left of his life.