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possibly because the sixth word there is nult avant la lettre?

A Skanger Barkley (nakhchivan), Monday, 25 November 2013 09:29 (ten years ago) link

Both Phosphorescent and Foxygen in the Mojo 50, eh? It's fair to say I can ignore that list, then!

― zip-a-dee-doo-dah, motherfucker! (Turrican), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 14:01 (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

first rate ignoring by Turrican there

― screaming lord, such opinion (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 14:35 (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A Skanger Barkley (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

I haven't been able to discern why Vampire Weekend is loved so much more here than the vast majority of indie rock bands. A one sentence explanation would be helpful (that's the extent of my interest).

― _Rudipherous_, Friday, 10 January 2014 15:47 (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Potential one sentence explanation: people are stupid?

― emil.y, Friday, 10 January 2014 15:49 (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

VENIET IMBER (imago), Friday, 10 January 2014 16:08 (ten years ago) link

I really liked God is My Co-Pilot. ;_;

― emil.y, Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:05 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

― System, Saturday, January 18, 2014 4:01 PM (2 hours ago)

^ enlightening post (sarahell), Sunday, 19 January 2014 02:37 (ten years ago) link

Is it just me or is there a load of Simple Minds in this?

― emil.y, Tuesday, January 21, 2014 10:24 AM (30 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a load of simple minds made it

― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, January 21, 2014 10:24 AM (3 seconds ago)

^ enlightening post (sarahell), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 18:25 (ten years ago) link

lol

My pants stay under the trousers....

― ۩, Monday, February 3, 2014 10:54 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

*dramatic pause*

― Battles, "Atlas" 29 Carly Rae Jepsen, "Call Me Maybe" 14 (imago), Monday, February 3, 2014 10:55 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and nothing gets tucked into my socks or trainers

― ۩, Monday, February 3, 2014 10:55 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Battles, "Atlas" 29 Carly Rae Jepsen, "Call Me Maybe" 14 (imago), Monday, 3 February 2014 23:12 (ten years ago) link

shd have been Jo!sla)x3 obv

Battles, "Atlas" 29 Carly Rae Jepsen, "Call Me Maybe" 14 (imago), Monday, 3 February 2014 23:14 (ten years ago) link

Was gonna say but

a horse divided cannot stand (darraghmac), Monday, 3 February 2014 23:18 (ten years ago) link

Sororah T Massacre (blueski) wrote this on thread Man I Fucken' Hate The English on board I Love Everything on Nov 16, 2005
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English money.

How many shillings in a pound.

-- anthony (anthonyeasto...), July 15th, 2001.

Your Famous English Ironism

You think you're smarter than "us", don't you? Just 'cause in the UK every lout with a TV set knows what irony is, or at least that it's a thing, & the basic principle of how to do it. But if say, a Canadian or something uses Irony on you, I bet 9 times out of 10 the average intelligent English(wo)man probably won't even get it. So do you think that maybe that Famous British Ironism is sometimes somewhat overestimated as a, you know, a thing?

-- duane (pfaiga...), July 28th, 2001.

The English

Come on then, wheel out the stereotypes.

-- DG (rgreenfiel...), August 21st, 2001.

English muffins -- what do the English call them?

Just curious. It would sound a bit silly to go around England calling them "English muffins," but then surely you don't just call them "muffins?" Because then what would you call muffins?

Next episode: biscuits.

-- Nitsuh (nt...), September 20th, 2001.

Who is the Greatest Living Englishman ?

Why?

Your nominations>>>>PLEASE

-- (sea...), November 7th, 2001.

The spread of the English Language across the world: C or D?

There was a similar thread about people coming *in* to English speaking countries, but what about its export? The English Language is strapping on its marching boots and going global: should it be stopped? Will languages go extinct in the long term? Will the world be full of clones? I am currently feeling kind of guilty about teaching my Brazilian students English. Am I an agent of globalisation? Is globalisation Classic or Dud?

-- Will (wjmckenzi...), November 13th, 2001.

Vagaries of English

Loosely inspired on a conversation with my wife last night, I'd like to know if this company would have a snowball's chance in Hell at success in the UK. I'm thinking no (unless, of course, they radically modify their business model).

-- Dan Perry (djperr...), January 4th, 2002.

If ILE was '76/'77 English Punk, Who Would You Be?

I think I'd be Louise of the famed dyke bar all the insiders hung out at. Sit and scowl at the kids with Francis Bacon.

-- Arthur (tabren123...), January 19th, 2002.

Sounds English

by Nabeel Zuberi. anyone read it?

-- gareth (garet...), February 5th, 2002.

Taking Sides: English vs Irish vs Scottish vs Welsh

Not the country, the nationality i would probably be welsh because you would have a language that no one else understands and be born in a country that people dont know even exists

-- Chupa-Cabras (wes...), February 9th, 2002.

English vs Americans: Who's better at S-E-X?

Inspired mostly by snarky comments in this thread. Who boinks best?

(I think I should stop drinking on weeknights, even if I am bored out of my skull.)

-- Dan Perry (djperr...), March 5th, 2002.

Authors in English

The last few books that I've read have been in translation and I now want to get a book written in English. Any good ideas?

-- Jonnie (jonnienumber...), April 3rd, 2002.

English People are Terrifying

in Sam Peckinpah's "Straw Dogs". Are you really such frighteners?

-- fritz (fritzwollner5...), April 4th, 2002.

The English are wrong

marveling at gold busses instead of bitching at their opressors, killl them all !

-- anthony (anthonyeasto...), April 11th, 2002.

Why do English people drive on the left side?

Why?

-- Nathalie (stevienixe...), April 12th, 2002.

Crappy English Names that are super exotic in America

The other day I was looking at a Roger Waters poster and I thought 'hmm.. they don't have men called Roger in America, do they?'.

Am I right? Do they have Barrys? What about Simon?

-- N. (nickdastoo...), April 27th, 2002.

Celtic and Rangers finally get the official English invite

Hm.

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), May 11th, 2002.

are Exeter City the most glamorous clunb in the English Leagues?

I just saw this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/hi/english/football/teams/e/exeter_city/newsid_2010000/2010945.stm

and found it very funny, I would like to hear what Mr Hopkins has to say about it all. PLus, what happened to Uri Geller being a lifelong Reading fan?

-- chris (cbrassic...), May 27th, 2002.

The tragic ineptitude of the English male (attn: Emma?)

The tragic ineptitude of the English male: "After going out with roughly a dozen single men in London, I have come to the conclusion that the modern English male knows little to nothing about courtship, and what he does know frightens him."

A very very irritating piece -- Emma's done better in three-sentence posts -- but I'm curious: what do you think of the underlying stereotypes and cliches here?

-- nabisco (--...), August 2nd, 2002.

Interesting follow up to 'English men are crap'

The question of who pays for dinner may appear small and inconsequential, but the assumptions underlying these arrangements are not.

-- Archel (arche...), August 9th, 2002.

Martin Skidmore is English

and therefore enjoys le vice anglais.

-- anthony easton (anthonyeasto...), October 15th, 2002.

Where does "Oi" and "Hein" came from(in english)?

and how the fuck did they have the same meaning in english and in portuguese. was it garage?

-- Chupa-Cabras (m_66...), October 22nd, 2002.

English = Suck at sports

http://sport.guardian.co.uk/columnists/story/0,10260,842949,00.html

World champions of self-deceit

Stephen Bierley
Tuesday November 19, 2002
The Guardian

Right. Here it is then. England will not win rugby's World Cup in Australia next year, and they will not win the cricket World Cup in South Africa either. Or soccer's European Championship in 2004 or the next World Cup in 2006. Neither will Tim Henman ever win Wimbledon, nor any other grand slam title. Or Dwain Chambers the Olympic 100m. And I could go on.

The point is that in this country - England, that is - we cling grotesquely to the certain belief that we are a major power in world sport and we just won't learn we are not. Our cricketers win their first Test against India in the summer and suddenly we are odds-on to regain the Ashes. Our footballers defeat Argentina and thereafter we become racing certainties to stuff Brazil and win the World Cup. It is all bonkers and, worse, we can no longer see the funny side or recognise how much we are being laughed at.

Back in 1978 we roared with mirth when Ally MacLeod, the national McMessiah, vowed Scotland would win the World Cup in Argentina. How was it possible, we wondered, that anybody could believe in, let alone swallow, this absurd brand of xenophobic optimism? For here was an anti-English, anti-world crusade that left opponents incredulous, and filled those more discerning Scots with a painful disquiet.

Hubris was inevitable and swift. A 3-1 defeat in Cordoba by Peru, followed four days later by a 1-1 draw in the same stadium against Iran, and it was all over. Many of the bars in the Argentinian city had been stocked high with single malts - 25 quid a large (very large) shot, I remember to my cost - and there were not many full bottles left by the time the Tartan army moved on.

Scotland had arrived in South America comparing themselves with the best and discovered, quite dreadfully, as had always seemed possible to any rational critic, that they could not compete with the weakest.

The scars are still apparent. Indeed, there are many north of the border who firmly believe the continued support of the Tartan Army in foreign fields is now an act of perverse folly, which gives some sort of false assurance and credence to a bunch of international players who are hardly worth the name. But what will it take for the English to come to their sporting senses?

You might have thought the almighty thrashing handed out by the Australians at the Gabba, and the demolition of Henman by Lleyton Hewitt at Wimbledon this summer, may have quietened the tub thumping and flag waving just a little, that a few notes of caution would have been interspersed with any triumphal trumpeting. Yet, on consecutive Saturdays, Twickenham has echoed to the boastful, self-congratulatory braying of those who appear to believe that the Rugby World Cup is already as good as won.

Television is much to blame. These days every studio is crammed full of ex-players who make not the slightest pretence to be objective, notably when national teams are involved.

The BBC used to be an exception, but now it stands for nothing more than the British Broadcasting of Celebrities. Radio 5 Live, the station that promised roll-over news and sport, is too often nothing much more than a talking shop for so-called 'names' while the ubiquitous phone-in, the cheapest, most banal form of broadcasting, frequently takes precedence over live sport. Small wonder, perhaps, that the station of the nation has helped spawn a particular sporting public in England that appears incapable of judging its national teams and players in anything but the most simplistic terms and appears incapable of distinguishing between fact and fiction, hype and reality.

This is not to say that England cannot win the Rugby World Cup next year or that our cricketers will not rise phoenix-like from the Ashes to triumph in the World Cup one-day thrashes in South Africa. But is it not possible to recognise or accept that they may not and, in all probability, will not?

This is not to be unpartisan or inherently pessimistic, but simply to recognise that in international terms the English are a small nation with an inflated opinion of themselves. There will be triumphs, and there will be victories against the odds, but generally, as Scottish footballers and Welsh rugby players have discovered, the English will not finish top of the sporting tree very often.

-- chaki (chak...), November 19th, 2002.

Buffy, Season Seven Villain (SPOILERS: Do Not Read if You Are English)

I'm sorry, but I lack both the time and the mental energy required to deal with a shape-shifting head-game villain for an entire season: I'm already wound up from the rush to be home by seven, and I know for a fact that I wouldn't be making exasperated noises and shouting "what the hell?" if I were watching the Gilmore Girls.

Discuss. If you don't wish to discuss this tell me about Lorelei Gilmore's pants this season: are they still way too tight, or have they decided to let her breathe a little?

-- nabisco (--...), November 20th, 2002.

Am I a total dick for thinking that foreign culture stereotype/broken-english humor is the best?

I don't consider myself racist, or an asshole (well, maybe I'm an asshole, but only like 38% of the time), but when I see a show or a movie that has some kinda cultural stereotype, I think it's funny as hell. For example, today my wife dragged me to go see "My Big Fat Greek Wedding". Usually I like my films to have Matthew MacConaughey bald fighting dragons in the future, but what the hey, gotta go see the wife's pick sometimes, right? And whenever the greek folk in that movie would do stereotypical greek stuff I thought it was hysterical. I've been around a few non-WASP people in my life (I spent 9 months doing an intensive Hebrew language program with real Isrealis, and then an intensive 6 month program learning spanish from real Guatemalans, Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, Colombians, and Argentinians, and my wife spent 1 1/2 years learning Arabic from real Iraqis, Saudis, Palestinians, and Syrians, plus all the guys I was in a punk band with in high school were pure-blood Italianos, I remember my bandmates dad, upon introduction saying, "Your name's Pavlik, you're an Serbian Orthodox Catholic, right?" I replied, "Uh, no, "Pavlich" is Serbian, I'm Czech, but I was brought up Presbyterian" to which he reponded, "A protestant? Get the hell out of my house. I'm just kidding, you can stay, just don't eat any of my food." Really funny stuff, I think.) and maybe that's where I find the humor in people saying "hairs" instead of "hair" and talking about weird food and stuff.

I dunno, I'm I a dick for thinking cultural stereotype humor is the best? Like all the Hindi cab driver things and such?

-- Helltime Producto (jostababy197...), December 15th, 2002.

If anyone has the spare time, could any French-speakers here translate this article into English for me?

My French is a bit rusty and I can only get the general gist of the article. I've been looking for this for ages though.

-- Melissa W (MelCarame...), February 9th, 2003.

Okay, So How Many Here are English Majors?

This came to mind because of the "Librarian" thread, followed by several conversations with ILXors who admit to having at least one degree in English. So 'fess-up, if this is you. What degrees and what concentrations and are you actually working in your field or close to your field or what?

Me: BA in English, concentration in Technical Writing; Graduate Writing Certificate in Professional Writing; MA in Technical Writing in progress but likely to be abandoned. And I have spent many years working as a tech. writer, but am now moving away from that field, but still sticking with writing. I'd like to spend my days reading, though.

-- I'm Passing Open Windows (mslaur...), February 24th, 2003.

GOOD LORD ! CHeap English Table Cause of Total Failure

Woman, 70, dies after operating table breaks

John Carvel, social affairs editor
Friday February 28, 2003
The Guardian

A coroner was last night investigating the death of a 70-year-old woman after an accident during her routine heart surgery when the operating table broke and started sliding away from her astonished surgeons.
The team continued with the operation at Derriford hospital, Plymouth, after summoning extra doctors and nurses to hold steady the £50,000 hi-tech table.

The incident happened on Thursday of last week, the same day that the hospital was facing allegations at an employment tribunal that an orthopaedic surgeon, Godfrey Charnley, was given a dessert spoon instead of a proper instrument to carry out a hip replacement operation.

The woman, who has not been named, died on Sunday. The hospital said her complex operation lasted a little longer because of the table, but the surgeons did not believe that was a cause of her death. She was jolted forward as the table broke, but, said the hospital, she did not fall to the floor.

The cardiac operating table was one of three state-of-the-art pieces bought in 1997 from ALM, a French supplier. After the accident, Paul Roberts, the hospital's chief executive, took all of the tables out of service and cancelled 22 heart operations pending an investigation.

Three new tables were being delivered last night in the expectation that the unit could resume surgery today.

The faulty table was part of a system comprising a trolley to take patients to surgery. The medical devices agency is looking into the possibility that a locking mechanism failed.

Derriford hospital had some of the best clinical results in England for cardiothoracic surgery. The unit was being expanded to reduce the waiting list of 368 patients.

Mr Roberts said: "The top of the operating table became detached. The surgeon immediately asked for help and other staff came over and steadied the table and several more scrubbed up and grabbed [its] corners. The incident rang alarm bells and raised technical concerns about the table."

-- Mike Hanle y (pennyson...), February 28th, 2003.

did the english orchesate the irish potato famine.

it was a one line allusion in atlantic monthly's review of something, and buggered if i can find a source- propghanda ?

-- anthony easton (anthonyeasto...), March 12th, 2003.

Bastardising the English Language

My pet hate?
The Americanisation of the ENGLISH language. 'Lazy' English as we know it. Ugh!

There is only one way to use the English language - and that's the correct way. Realise will ALWAYS have an 's' in it.......

Also, this vile trend of 'text' spelling (b4, u etc)... it just gives us a generation of people who simply cannot spell correctly.

-- russ t (russ.thoma...), March 13th, 2003.

COO: English English v American English

In present day global terms, which "language" is more relevant.

-- Ginger Baker's Hairpiece (strontium9...), March 14th, 2003.

Teaching English as a foreign language - classic or dud?

I'm thinking very seriously about applying for this/investigating what qualifications I'd need to do it. I'm particularly interested in possibly going abroad. Does anyone have any experience of this that they'd be willing to share? Would anyone recommend it? Thanks.

-- Ben Mott (be...), March 14th, 2003.

English people: did you take a year off between high school & college?

What did you do? Did the experience make you a better, stronger person? How common is this practice?

-- Mary (maj23...), March 24th, 2003.

Good News Source...in English

The (American) news coverage of the first Gulf War was very disappointing for my 11 year old self. This time around I'd hoped that the internet would allow me to see all the awful faces of death footage that my coal-black heart desired, but so far I've found very little. Are there any websites in English that will give me more than a blurry green-tinted picture of the same fucking Baghdad street we've been staring at for the last week? I'm sure Al Jazera is wonderful, but I don't speak Arabic and their live internet stream seems to be overloaded.

I'm not really looking for an "anti-war" perspective, as the Stalinist perspective doesn't interest me, but there must be something other than the disgrace of CNN, MSNBC and Fox News.

-- Chris H. (chrisherber...), March 25th, 2003.

The Top 100 English Language Films of All Time (With Commentary)

coming soon!

-- jess (dubplatestyl...), April 17th, 2003.

Does Anyone Have Any 4,000 Word Essays On English Literature They Want To Send Me?

OK, OK... yes this is unethical. But I'm desperate.

Do any of you ILX people have a rougly 4,000 word essay on a certain perspective's (Marxism, Femimism, Post-Modernism, reader-response, etc etc) outlook on a piece of literature. Novel, film, whatever. Ideally, this won't already be published anywhere on the internet.

If you have one, you would be saving my life. Ideally, it wouldn't be already on the internet. Actually, if it is on the internet, I can't use it. If you do have one, post here, and I'll be in touch. This is needed within roughly two hours (it is currently 8:10pm GMT).

-- Probably Going To Fail His Course (fuckin...), May 7th, 2003.

Is "The Water Babies" The Worst Text In The English Literature Canon?

Having been forced to read this as part of my Victorian Literature course (I've started to do my entire year's reading with only two weeks till my exams), I'm forced to conclude that Charles Kinglsey's "The Water Babies" is one of the worst texts ever written.

From its self-satisfied "This isn't real... BUT IT IS!!!" narrative, through to the irritatingly Douglas Adams style WACKY NAME ALERT characterisations. The main character has no redeeming traits, the "bad guys" have no reducing traits, and its accompanied by the classic violent racism that filches through so many Victorian novels (Negroes! They look like animals!).

So, yeah, is there a worst text in the "canon"? And can anyone even try to defend this? The film was shit as well.

-- Dom Passantino (killallgoth...), May 20th, 2003.

1980s Literature (English-Language Division)

I'm putting together a reading list of eighties literature, because I clearly need yet another topic to feel guilty about being ignorant of. By "eighties literature" I'm thinking not simply of literature that happened to be published during the eighties -- no established authors' eighties highlights or first novels by nineties favorites -- but books emblematic of the state of things during that decade: authors that had their primary currency during the eighties, early-eighties flash-in-the-pan novels whose authors struggled thereafter (obviously there are a lot of these), novels that serve as introductions to the major trends of the era. As such, not all of them are things I'd normally be particularly interested in, and some of them I have little expectation of liking (or -- who am I kidding -- ever getting around to actually reading). Some of them are the late-eighties winners of authors who worked up to them over the course of the decade, and at least two of them are special dispensations for a older writers who happened to reclaim an eighties zeitgeist.

Here's my list so far, and I'd be as happy to have you guys knock things off of it as I would be to see you add things on.

Kathy Acker, Blood and Guts in High School (1984)
Martin Amis, London Fields (1989)
Paul Auster, City of Glass (1985)
Julian Barnes, A History of the World in 10½ Chapers (1989)
T.C. Boyle, World’s End (1987)
Charles Bukowski, Hot Water Music (1983)
J.M. Coetzee, The Life and Times of Michael K (1983)
Don DeLillo, White Noise (1985)
Joan Didion, Democracy (1984)
Andre Dubus, Selected Stories (1988)
Bret Easton Ellis, Less Than Zero (1985)
Nadine Gordimer, July’s People (1981)
Kazuo Ishiguro, The Remains of the Day (1989)
Tama Janowitz, Slaves of New York (1986)
Denis Johnson, Angels (1983)
Jamaica Kincaid, Annie John (1985)
David Leavitt, Family Dancing (1984)
Armistead Maupin, Tales of the City (1978)
Cormac McCarthy, Blood Meridian (1985)
Ian McEwan, The Child in Time (1987)
Jay McInerny, Bright Lights, Big City (1984)
Tim O’Brien, The Things they Carried (1990)
Salman Rushdie, Midnight’s Children (1980)
Vikram Seth, The Golden Gate (1986)
Paul Theroux, The Mosquito Coast (1981)
Michael Tolkin, The Player (1988)
Rose Tremain, The Restoration (1989)
John Updike, Rabbit is Rich (1981)
Edmund White, A Boy’s Own Story (1982)
Tom Wolfe, Bonfire of the Vanities (1987)

The main thing I feel like I'm missing, trend-wise, is the post-Carver "K-Mart realism" vein -- I've read a good deal of Frederick Barthelme, but should probably cover more of this stuff. (I enjoy it, if lukewarmly.)

-- nabisco (--...), June 15th, 2003.

Mini English Road Trip

I've never been to Manchester so I'd like to go. Gareth said I should go to Leeds too, and something about "over the moors." Should I go from London? Or directly from Manchester? What should I see? What should I do? Make suggestions! (Trip currently in fantasy-only stage.)

-- Mary (maj23...), July 16th, 2003.

what's your favourite accent of English...?

...be it native speaker or otherwise?

-- Daniel (dancit...), July 26th, 2003.

ancient english shows i want help with

1) i just cut myself with the razor, enough to use some tissue as blood-blocking stickum and it reminded me of some little clips Nickelodeon used to show during a regularly scheduled international comedy omnibus called "turkey TV". they starred a terribly anxious interviewer with razorcuts and the aforementioned tissue dots, which he had apparently bizarrely come to terms with for his television program, which included inerviews from luminaries like ricky schroeder

2) a radio quiz program from the 80s, which aired on Sundays, in Tennessee at least. just after church, i believe. it featured the kind of creative point-awarding later popularized by "whose line is it anyway"—one was awarded 0, 1 mark, or 2 marks for answers often requiring some subtle spin; i remember it being like the quiz equivalent of a cryptic crossword. my favorite part came at the end when the contestants each told a shaggy dog story, the climax of which had to be a phrase that the host had set back at the beginning of the show—so inbetween questions and answers they had to be thinking about and adding to and polishing this set-up to some horrible pun. as i remember it this story could make up for a show's worth of missed questions, depending on its unexpected plot, or just great timing by the teller. i could be remembering all this wrong.

-- Tracer Hand (tracerhan...), July 28th, 2003.

HOT ENGLISH PANTS

hot enough for yeh? heh heh.

-- Mike Hanle y (pennyson...), August 11th, 2003.

Examples of illogic in English syntax

Over on the "Is rock journalism becoming a pukebag? Becoming a pukebag?" thread, I wrote:

"What the Voice ownership wants is stupider readers with bigger pockets. But really, you know, they've lost circulation to Time Out, and this isn't going to get it back, I don't think."

My brother Richard replied:

The grammar intrigued me. My first reaction was that you had clearly used a double negative, and not as a form of dialect, either. ("I ain't never gonna go out with her!") I proved to myself this was a double negative by transforming the sentence into "...and I don't think this isn't going to get it back." And then, because I engage in this sort of exercise almost without conscious design, I demonstrated that one could fix the sentence by turning either negative into a positive: first, "...and this isn't going to get it back, I think," and second, "...and this is going to get it back, I don't think." Whoops! No native speaker ever says the latter - it is idiomatically wrong. We are required to say "...and I don't think this is going to get it back." This left me puzzled. WHY can we put the clause "I think" in the middle or the end of the sentence, as we choose, but must put the clause "I don't think" in the middle of the sentence? I suppose the answer is "idiom," which in English tells us everything and nothing. Any thoughts on yet one more example of illogic in English syntax?

My response:

I believe that my syntax ("and this isn't going to get it back, I don't think") is idiomatic (i.e., I'm not the only one who uses it), even if it is a double negative and not grammatically correct. The reason I think it's idiomatic is that I used it without thinking, and it feels right to me.

I demonstrated that one could fix the sentence by turning either negative into a positive: first, "...and this isn't going to get it back, I think," and second, "...and this is going to get it back, I don't think." Whoops! No native speaker ever says the latter - it is idiomatically wrong. We are required to say "...and I don't think this is going to get it back."

Believe it or not, I think it is the former that's not idiomatic (even though it's grammatical). I can't recall ever seeing or hearing an affirmative "I think" appended to a negative statement ("He's not coming here, I think"). As a matter of fact, given the choice between saying "...and this isn't going to get it back, I think," and "...and this isn't going to get it back, I don't think," I would choose the second without hesitating. The first just sounds wrong wrong wrong. As for "and this is going to get it back, I don't think," I have heard and read such syntax. It's probably still classified as slang, but it's not altogether new. I've seen it in old Rex Stout novels. Archie Goodwin, the narrator, never uses it, but other characters sometimes do - usually young women, saying something like (these are not actual examples), "And I am innocent and pure and have great faith in mankind, I don't think." Stout has also used the "not" construction: "I would do anything for him. Not." Which jumped out at me immediately, when I read it in Stout, because I had become newly familiar with it in the '90s. So, after apparently being slang in the forties and fifties in Nero Wolfe Land, then (perhaps) dropping out of usage, it was revived by Wayne's World!

Any more examples of illogic in English syntax? Any comment on these two examples (first, that affirming a negative with a negative at the end of the sentence is idiomatic despite its not being grammatical, while the grammatically correct affirmation of the negative is not; and second, that making a negative by adding "not" in the middle of a sentence is standard usage, while putting the negative at the end is mere slang, despite its being equally logical)?

-- Frank Kogan (edcasua...), August 17th, 2003.

National Lampoon English Vacation aka Dubya Takes A Trip

the Corgis are whimpering, the shelves are suddenly stacked high with impoted pretzels...

here's where we chronicle the exploits of the dark lord on his long overdue jaunt to Blighty - take an egg-shield Georgey...

-- stevem (bluesk...), November 17th, 2003.

new book quotes English writer Tanya Headon!

From Vinyl Junkies: Adventures in Record Collecting by Boston writer Brett Milano, page 132:

"English writer Tanya Headon, in the fanzine Freaky Trigger, summed up why collectors scare their dates away: 'Even the most intimate moments have to have the perfect soundtrack, and there's no greater passion-killer than watching your beloved crouching over a multi-CD changer.' Nick Hornby's High Fidelity did its part to reinforce the theory, suggesting that no woman would bother debating what Elvis Costello's best album is, or bother with a man who did. (A notion that's not entirely true: I can vouch that I once asked a woman out specifically because the knew that the answer, of course, was Get Happy!!)

somehow I get the feeling Tanya would feel revulsed at being mentioned in the same graf as Hornby, but hey. (also, the best Costello album is actually Trust.)

-- M Matos (michaelangelomato...), November 25th, 2003.

A thread for British expats in North America who have nobody nearby to make dumb english pop culture references to

E.g.The guy fixing my bathroom looks like one of the Chuckle Brothers.

-- Chuck Tatum (sappy_papp...), December 1st, 2003.

the eastenders christmas special makes me feel slightly sad about being english

sigh

-- tom west (u3i0...), December 24th, 2003.

Is "behooves" the ugliest *sounding* word in the English language, especially when said by smug southern republicans?

For I suspect so. Can someone explain to me why such people use this word *incessantly*? I reckon it would rank highly as one of the most frequently heard words on Fox News (behind the obv. "fair", "balanced" etc.).

Plus there's rather unpleasant overtones of false humility to it. Like the republican is saying "I will conform to general convention" but he's meaning "you all should pay attention to how well I conform to my own idea of what general convention should be!"

-- Tim Finney (tfinne...), January 2nd, 2004.

TS: English Hitchcock vs US Hitchcock

This has been a dead question since like the Fifties. But times change. Just saw 'The Lady Vanishes' (1938, all filmed in Islington). It's very good if you like films where men in cravats say things like 'what the blazes?!' as I do.

If the English Hitchcock looks a bit tinny next to his later stuff, it is, on the whole, generally funnier.

Or to put it another way: what if Cary Grant had never left Bristol?

-- Enrique (miltonpinsk...), January 13th, 2004.

The German (english dubbed) commercials

not the vorsprung ones...

The ones where instead of stumping up and filming new ads, they use a foreign language original where the new dialogue 'almost' matches the lip movements, or the lip movements are obscured...

Only, the humour is so regional (German ones particularly) to render the ad pointless..

-- mark grout (mark.grou...), January 14th, 2004.

RFI: longest one-syllable English word?

"Scripts" is fairly long, but I know that's not it.

-- A Nairn (moreta...), January 15th, 2004.

English expressions that are only used by foreigners

We saw a Greek death metal band the other day. They referred to everything that wan't Death Metal as "Life Metal", apparently this is a common term in Europe. Also they have anti-true metal associations where True -Metal is considered a bad thing.

When my friend went to a rock festival in Hungary, he was surprised by how the fans there would clap, cheer and shout "YOU SUCK!" at their favourite bands.
Similarly, in Italy another friend picked up a variety of badges with English football teams on them. One of these had the following slogan emblazoned on the front:

I AM A SPURS
SUPPORTER!
FUCK OFF SPURS!

Even better was this one:
ARSENAL IS THE BEST!
FUCK CUNT BASTARD CUN!

-- dog latin (doglati...), January 26th, 2004.

Which English town or city is most poorly represented on the football pitch?

I suppose in the light of recent events, maybe Exeter (pop: c.100000) comes off pretty poorly. The whole of the SW is a bit underrepresented. Gloucester. Does Gloucester even have a football team?

-- N. (nickdastoo...), February 10th, 2004.

The English make obscene childrens television

http://potato.ipg.tsnz.net/movie/rainbow.mpg

see !

-- anthony (anthonyeasto...), February 20th, 2004.

this is the thread where we type up things in English, translate them into another language, and then back into English

english to german to english

In this thread you can somewhat straight write above, can it over each possible topic be and translate it then into another language. Then you translate it back into English. Laughter follows certainly.

Leave to us the fun received begun, everyone!

-- Gear! (drink_to_remembe...), March 5th, 2004.

Arsenal 2003-04: Are they the best team in English football history?

OK, granted, they haven't even won anything yet and - full disclosure - I'm a (drunk) Arsenal supporter very pleased with today's (well, tonight's, in the UK) result v. Portsmouth, but could this Arsenal team be considered the greatest club in the history of English football? If they manage to win the treble and go undefeated in the league, would they be? If not them - who else: Man United in 67-68 or 98-99? Liverpool in the late 70s? Arsenal in the 1930s?

Admittedly, they barely scraped into the knock-out stages of the CL, have been lucky w/injuries (and even suspensions), and may not have the depth of some of the other contenders for this fictional crown. (But reserves such as Clichy and Bentley have done well when called upon -- in that sense, there is no indication that depth is a serious problem, just an issue they've not had the misfortune to have had to address.) At present, I think they're the best team in the world - ahead of clubs such as Real, Roma, or Milan - and that they're better than the Man United team of 99. Could they become the best the in the history of English football?

(nb: my sober mind may regret this rare foray into thread-starting!)

-- scott pl. (scottp...), March 6th, 2004.

"these phrases had the most impact on the English language"

DANVILLE, California (AP) -- The Janet Jackson bare breast incident during the Super Bowl halftime show is among this year's events recognized as changing the way we speak.

A group that analyzes the latest trends in word usage declared "wardrobe malfunction" as Hollywood's Top Word or Phrase for Impact on the English language.

"There is no question that Hollywood has had a profound impact upon word choice and usage for Global English," said Paul JJ Payack, President of the Global Language Monitor. "'Wardrobe malfunction' is but one example of a phrase that is destined to outlive the football game with which it is associated."

The phrase became famous after Justin Timberlake snatched off part of Jackson's bustier on stage, revealing a breast clad only in a sun-shaped "nipple shield" in front of some 89 million viewers.

Timberlake issued a statement shortly after the show apologizing and blaming the debacle on a "wardrobe malfunction."

Rounding out the top five on the group's list: "Bootylicious," "extreme makeover," "Gigli" and "Give it up!"

-- Gear! (drink_to_remembe...), March 13th, 2004.

best English poems evah [was: Harold Blooms best books of the twentith century.]

i hate it, i hate its banality, its refusal to play in the 20th century, its anglophil,lia, its dismissal of people like john clare, its just over the top old fashioned oriniess (sp).

what do y'all think ?

-- anthony (anthonyeasto...), April 8th, 2004.

Imperial Fashions = englishmen and women in clothes of the Americas

Inspired by a readthrough of the old trucker hat thread. Why is it thatin old England people appropriate working class styles tend to those of America?
It's not just limited to the trucker hat and sport shirt. There's the gentlewomen you see in those - pashinas, are they called? i really don't know - it's also in the black kids (many of whom are second generation Africans) in jackets that bear the name of one or every basketball team.
You seldom ever see someone with an old tshirt bearing the name of some cake company, or old football shirts.
I hope the answer isn't merely some internationalised cool. One might be that somewhere like Beyond Retro in Shoreditch buys cheap clothes from Canada. Perhaps it might be the discrepancy between English and American concepts of class. THe working ideal of America seems to be that spirit that was assimilated by the 40's Trade Union movement and which the Republicans have latched onto now. The English is loaded with more bitterness, a sense of us and them. Tony Blair cannot affect or employcolloqialisms like Bush can. There is this sense that it is not appropriate to play with class so much in England.

-- matthew james (action_Respok...), April 12th, 2004.

The New Face of English Conservatism

On Ken's refusal to grant Barnet council £1.5 million for ripping out road humps, from the guardian

The council's Conservative leader, Brian Coleman, branded the claims as "absolute bollocks", insisting that the council's measures had widespread public support.

Next week: Howard brands Blair's amendments to immigration policy a "fackin' disgrace."

-- matthew james (action_Respok...), April 13th, 2004.

No more English Guinness

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3628941.stm

Park Royal Brewery to close, St James's Gate to export to the UK.

TS: hundreds out of work Vs our young men and women in the land of the Sassenachs being able to get a decent pint.

-- Andrew Farrell (afarrel...), April 16th, 2004.

Master of English or Math: Which is more important in the average white-collar job?

english/writing. a person who writes well cannot be replaced by a little gadget that dumps out clear prose. i majored in math and economics in college, ok. right now i have a job that requires a "strong background in math," and yet i do no math! i sit here all day and blindly dump numbers into a software program, and then have the task of translating my results in clear, concise english to the fucks in management. point: i need a writerlator.

-- Argmax (brussel...), April 29th, 2004.

An English Seaside Town

What are your favourite english seaside towns? which have the most appeal? what about ones you dont like? and what do you look for in an english seaside town?

-- gareth (garet...), April 29th, 2004.

Recommend important ("important"), mainstream, English-language, films from 1990 to the present

If I want high-speed internet in my new apartment, I am going to have to go cable, so I might as well buy a TV (and VCR, or I guess DVD player) and get cable TV with it; which means that this would be a good time for me to catch up on the last 10-15 years of movies.

I'm especially interested in films that are/were important because of what they reflect about society (things that will teach me about my own culture), and to a lesser extent, films that were important for breaking new ground artistically (or being the best examples of their particular style). But I would like to stick to Hollywood films and other English language films that made it big. I am not necessarily looking for films with "deep" messages or any sort of social critique, just films that reflected &/or shaped contemporary American, or at least "western," society.

What movies should I have seen since 1990 in order to know what (average, not necessarily film-obsessed) people are talking about when they drop references to films into their conversation?

Emphasis on 1994 on.

I know there are probably similar threads, but I want my own.

-- Rockist Scientist (tarab_rumber...), May 14th, 2004.

Latin to English phrase translation

Please help with Latin to English translation

Veneres uti observantur
In gemmis antiquis.

Dono lepidum nouum libellum
asser.deliciae meae puellae.
Tam gratum est mihi
quam ferunt puellae lugete
o Veneres Cupidinesque phaselus

Veneris’s Gemmis Antiquis

-- Ginger Bush (gingeriver...), May 15th, 2004.

Sitting on a deckchair on an English Beach C/D In fact, the British Beach experience in general, C/D

Some Councillor in Blackpool has proposed scrapping deckchairs on the beach. Should I care? Does anyone ever go for a fortnight in seaside towns anyway? And were those holidays anygood. I used to love going to Filely each year but I'm sure now that it is full of townies.

-- Paul Kelly (kellio...), May 19th, 2004.

English dislike of France

Second installment in ILE's series on national stereotypes, feel free to engage in rants, explanations and doleances.

-- Baaderoni (fabfon...), May 28th, 2004.

Alternate Reasons To Be Proud Of Being English?

OK, to apologise for dragging Dog Latin's THOSE FUCKING ENGLAND FLAGS! thead off into several football-related diversions, I've been thinking about the actual dilemmas he posed in the original question.

They wave these flags, not because they want the England team to win the European cup, but because they say they "take pride in their country" - how is 22 men kicking a ball around a field representative of a nation's greatness?!

Which begs the question, what *is* representative of a nation's greatness?

England seems to me, as a returned ex-pat, to be a nation suffering from some kind of profound identity crisis. The citizens of many countries seem to be able to take pride in their *culture* without descending into Nationalism. (Looking at the French, for example, the old cliches that the French take pride in their food, their language, etc.) Is English culture really that irreparably tainted with the sins of the British Empire and the |3NP? (Can we separate Englishness from Britishness the way that the Scots and Welsh have separated their national identities from Britishness?)

So three questions to begin with:

1) Are you proud to be English?
2) If you're not proud to be English, why not? Or rather, what would have to change or be different to make you proud of your cultural heritage?
3) What are some alternate cultural things (i.e. NOT football) that the English could be proud of?

(Immigrants to England are also encouraged to answer this question. In fact, it would be helpful to hear the answers of those born in other countries who chose to live in England.)

-- Apostrophe Catastrophe (masonicboo...), June 18th, 2004.

English Fan Killed In Portugal

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3828505.stm

-- Newshound (newshoun...), June 22nd, 2004.

Jon English C/D

Bobby Dazzler - C
All Together Now - D

-- The Ghost at Number Almanac (ada...), July 1st, 2004.

This is a thread for listing every word in English

So that people of the future may look back and see what words we used.

I'll start:

inky

-- Brisk Young Bastard (e...), July 29th, 2004.

UK English

Does this sentence go right over your head like it did with my American friend:

(On Eastenders)
"Funnily enough, I fell pregnant whilst mum was out at a do"

She couldn't understand how you could "fall" pregnant... UK English, it's a different language!

Also, has the slang term "dodie" (baby's pacifier) crossed the pond yet?

-- JTS (knife_of_justic...), August 28th, 2004.

The Best Words In the English Language

This is my current favourite:

mallemaroking, n. carousing of seamen in icebound ships.

Thank you Chambers, the best dictionary in the world

-- Dadaismus (kcoyne3...), September 7th, 2004.

The Amazing and Incredible, Only-Slightly-Laughable, Politically Unassailable, PoMo English Title Generator

for your possible amusement:

http://www.brysons.net/generator/textonly.cgi

-- amateur!!st (-...), September 8th, 2004.

Report- English children may fail exams deliberately due to gang culture.

Gang culture in the north east of England means teenagers deliberately fail exams to stay cool, a study says..

Any truth in this? Does it happen all over uk or other countries?

School Tribes:

charvers - fake designer gear, school is uncool
radgys - aggressive, liable to be excluded
divvies - hangers-on to charvers
goths - wear dark clothes
freaks - hard-working, considered normal by school

-- Teach me (teachm...), September 18th, 2004.

An Englishman writes: how do you pronounce "hawt"?

I'm puzzled.

-- Englishman (anenglishma...), September 21st, 2004.

Will some of you help me and please read this rather short (1 page) English summary of my MA thesis? It should take you no more than 2 minutes!

ILx0rs!

As some of you from over at ILM may know, I am from Denmark. I study rhetoric at the University of Copenhagen, and I am handing in my Master Degree Thesis this Friday. A one page English summary is required for the assignment, and I would be very grateful if one or two of you would just eye it through for language. Comments would be more than welcome.

Thanks, thanks, thanks in advance. You will be in my thoughts (really!) when I hand in the sucker the day after tomorrow.

6. SUMMARY IN ENGLISH

This Master's Degree thesis is an investigation into one of the most aggressive disputes in modern Danish political history. The dispute was ignited by right-wing politician Ulla Dahlerup's speech at Dansk Folkeparti's (The Danish People's Party) annual congress 2003. In the speech, she fero-ciously attacked the Danish left and the intellectual elite. Soon, that same elite responded with a number of fierce letters, published in leading Danish broadsheet newspapers.

The point of the thesis is to go beyond the sheer personal attacks and thoroughly ana-lyse the more complex rhetorical dynamics, which contributed to the debate's hostile climate. This includes analysing the speech itself, the responses it provoked, and the press coverage of the debate.

Using Dutch theoreticians Frans H. van Eemeren and Rob Grootendort's pragma-dialectial rules for reasonableness in discussion, it becomes clear that Dahlerup doesn't really re-spect the opinion of others – in facts, she tries to hijack the truth: she appeals very heavily to pity, and she tends to represent her opponents' standpoints very unjustly, and to her own advantage. She often presupposes that her own world-view was universally valid, she refers to herself as an author-ity when it was dubious to do so, and she doesn't distinguish between her opponents when she ought to. All this is intensified by her extremely vivid and emotional use of metaphors.

On the other hand, her opponents respond in a both high-pitched and superior tone: They disrespectfully attack her person with great vigour, they misrepresent her and others' stand-points, they try to impose their own world-view upon their audience, and they lack clarity in lan-guage – often because of presuppositions which seemingly serves as a form of showing off. Also, they exaggerate the consequences or magnitude of their opponents' standpoints.

The debate was further polarized by the press: Firstly, an investigation inspired by American linguist Deborah Tannen's work yielded the fact that most Danish broadsheet newspapers used a variety of war metaphors in their coverage of the debate. And secondly, applying communi-cation professor Kathleen Hall Jamieson and editor Paul Waldman's concepts of lenses and frames on the coverage of the debate shows us that the newspapers weren't merely objective bystanders: Sometimes the journalists' self-image as unmaskers of strategy and pinpointers of debate led them to stage the debate as simple one-on-one fights, even when that wasn't at all in accordance with the truth. These journalistic tendencies most likely contributed to the debate's fight-like atmosphere.

The thesis shows how journalistic aggression and debaters' lack of respect for the counterpart can corrupt dialogue and thereby cause a serious democratic problem.

-- Jay Kid (biaaartc...), October 27th, 2004.

Japanese things vs. French things vs. Australian things vs. English things vs. American things vs. German things vs. Canadian things

I think we can all agree that collectively, the above countries make the best things in the world. However, which of them actually produces the best things? I want a definitive answer.

A friend of mine really likes Japanese things and says they are the best but another friend swears by French things, and he really knows what he is talking about. Then another friend of mine loves all English things, almost without question. I guess I'm a bit partial to American things myself, but I haven't made up my mind yet one way or the other

-- adam... (adamr...), November 17th, 2004.

Aidez-moi! American English

Howdy Pardners!

I need to be able to produce convincing American English for work purposes. Can anyone recommend a good book? I don't mean a list of different words, I mean constructions and all that how's your father. Neither do I need to go into the ins and outs of Louisiana swamp pronunciation, although I wouldn't mind, to be honest.

Good all-round overview, serious in intent, is what I'm after.

PS: I am from Merrie England.

Many thanks.

-- PJ Miller (pjmiller6...), November 18th, 2004.

Goodbye, grey English skies.

So I'm off on my globetrotting adventures in a week. First stop Kenya (1 month) then Australia (2-3 months) then South East Asia (2-3 months). If any ILXors would like to meet up in any of these places that would be great. If anyone just has any advice or recommendations that would be equally great.

-- Wooden (josephgoode...), November 24th, 2004.

Zing! World's Favourite English Words

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4039185.stm

1 Mother

2 Passion

3 Smile

4 Love

5 Eternity

6 Fantastic

7 Destiny

8 Freedom

9 Liberty

10 Tranquility

11 Peace

12 Blossom

13 Sunshine

14 Sweetheart

15 Gorgeous

16 Cherish

17 Enthusiasm

18 Hope

19 Grace

20 Rainbow

21 Blue

22 Sunflower

23 Twinkle

24 Serendipity

25 Bliss

26 Lullaby

27 Sophisticated

28 Renaissance

29 Cute

30 Cosy

31 Butterfly

32 Galaxy

33 Hilarious

34 Moment

35 Extravaganza

36 Aqua

37 Sentiment

38 Cosmopolitan

39 Bubble

40 Pumpkin

41 Banana

42 Lollipop

43 If

44 Bumblebee

45 Giggle

46 Paradox

47 Delicacy

48 Peekaboo

49 Umbrella

50 Kangaroo

51 Flabbergasted

52 Hippopotamus

53 Gothic

54 Coconut

55 Smashing

56 Whoops

57 Tickle

58 Loquacious

59 Flip-flop

60 Smithereens

61 Oi

62 Gazebo

63 Hiccup

64 Hodgepodge

65 Shipshape

66 Explosion

67 Fuselage

68 Zing

69 Gum

70 Hen-night

Any thoughts?

-- Kevin Gilchrist (KevinGil14...), November 25th, 2004.

POLL: TOP 100 ENGLISH LANGUAGE WORDS CHOSEN BY ILE - NOMINATION THREAD

we should do an ilx poll top 100 words, like gear/stevem's top 100 stylee

-- ken c (pykachu10...), November 25th, 2004. (ken c) (later)

As some of you know, both ILM and ILC have recently had polls, voting for the best records of the nineties and the naughties, and the best comics of all time. Now's the time for ILE's own poll, and, by Ken's suggestion, I've chosen the one thing that surely interests us all: words. The poll will proceed as follows: every ILXor gets to nominate the maximum amount of four English-language words (you can nominate less if you want to) on this thread. The words should be ones you like, on any basis whatever - it could be the meaning of the word, how it sounds, how it looks like, or some other reason. If someone has already nominated your favourite word, choose another one. The nominations will close next Thursday, that is, the 2nd of December. After that I will post the full list of nominees, and instructions on how to vote for them.

Let the nominations begin!

-- Tuomas (tuomas.alh...), November 25th, 2004.

the english play about the murder in the sikh temple.

apparently the play has been cancelled, the playwright has gone into hiding and there is a riot of ca 400 angry sikhs outside...can we discuss this ?

-- anthony (anthony.easto...), December 21st, 2004.

The English Civil War

Over on the 'Citizenship ceremonies in the UK. Do we really need this? thread Dave B reckons the UK has never had a decent revolutions. In fact it had one of the first modern revolutions in the Form of the English Civil War. It's a terrible fact that the ECW is hardly taught in schools in favour of other nation shaping events like WW2 and is poorly understood when arguably it had a bigger ahping effect on Britain and on world history.

You cannot understand the American Revolutionary war without understanding that, initally at least it was round 3 of the ECW. Taxation without consent was the spark that ignited both and indeed the american colonists were in large part decended from dissafected puritans who formed the bulk of the parliamentary armies and who felt that they had been betrayed by the commonwealth and protectorate.

It also marks the period when the first socialist, anrachist, libertarian and syndicalist style movements take hold and the begining of the end for absolutism world wide, (although the Lollards and Magna Carta give certain Medieaval starting points for both of these)

Anyway, we have never really discussed it here.

-- Ed (dal...), January 20th, 2005.

English FA to Release Racist DVD?

FA Apologises Over England DVD

I would certainly have had John Barnes and Viv Anderson there on merit, but if the people that put the DVD together disagreed and their motives weren't racist then surely that's fair enough?

Does the FA's reaction not mean that one or more of: Bobby Moore, Gary Lineker, Sir Bobby Charlton, Paul Gascoigne, Alan Shearer, Bryan Robson, David Beckham, Terry Butcher, Martin Peters, Chris Waddle, Stuart Pearce, Steven Gerrard - will be excluded because they are white? And that the black players being added in the new DVD are only there because they are black?

-- Onimo (gerry.wat...), January 28th, 2005.

POLL: THE GREATEST ENGLISH LANGUAGE WORDS CHOSEN BY ILE - VOTING INSTRUCTIONS.

Okay, this is the poll where we choose the greatest of all time English language words. The nominations have been made, so it's time to vote. Here's how the voting works: you choose up to 30 words from the nominations list, put them in order, and they will score points according to the following logic:

1. 75 points
2. 60 points
3. 50 points
4. 45 points
5. 40 points
6. 35 points
7. 30 points
8. 25 points
9. 23 points
10. 21 points
11. 19 points
12. 18 points
13. 17 points
14. 16 points
15. 15 points
16. 14 points
17. 13 points
19. 12 points
20. 11 points
21. 10 points
22. 9 points
23. 8 points
24. 7 points
25. 6 points
26. 5 points
27. 4 points
28. 3 points
29. 2 points
30. 1 points

You can choose less than than 30 words if you want to, but that won't change the scoring, i.e. your number one will still receive 75 points, number two 60 points etc. Votes should be sent to this address: lixn✧✧✧@ya✧✧✧.c✧.u✧.

I'd also like people to write blurbs or longer comments why they've chosen those particular words; if you're willing to write blurbs, mark every word you could comment with a star (*), and once I've counted the results I'll send you e-mail asking for the comments. Voting ends on Monday, February the 21st (you have only eight days to vote, I take it shouldn't take that long), that'll be the last day you can cast a vote.

So, without further ado, here are the nominees, in alphabetical order:

A

aardvark
analgesic
aneurism
antidisestablishmentarianism
antimacassar
anymore
aplomb
arouse
astringent
asymptote
augur

B

banana
bass
bastardisation
beer
bereft
bile
blaspheme
blast
bollocks
boner
breakfast
brine
brouhaha
bupkis
bumblebee
bummer
buttnaked

C

cake
calibrate
chump
cleave
clerihew
cobb-knobbler
cock
combust
concatenate
concomitant
copasetic
corporeal
corrosive
cozy
crikey
cruel
crumble
crypt
cunt

D

dangle
darling
dastardly
delve
differentiation
dilettante
dip
discombobulated
dune
dust

E

eureka

F

flaps
flop
fluent
fornicate
fritter
fuck
fuckdog
fugue
fulsome
funk
funkadelic

G

genuflect
ghosts
glamour
glandular

H

haven
haver
heresiarch
hob
holiday
holster
hullabaloo
hurrah
hyacinth

I

ilk
indubitably
injuns
insouciance

J

juxtaposition

K

kapow
keep
kennelmaid

L

lascivious
like
love
lugubrious
lummox
lupine

M

maelstrom
manatee
masquerade
meal
mellifluous
meretricious
minge
misanthrope
mischief
miscreant
Mordor
mosaic
mugwump
mutha

N

neophyte
nevertheless
nibble
nighttime
nincompoop

O

oblique
opal
ostensibly
outcrop

P

p dog
paladin
palimpsest
parallax
parallelogram
pathogen
pendulous
pensive
perfidy
phrenology
piffle
plethora
plinth
pony
poppycock
portmanteau
profligate
proletariat
pussy

Q

quandary

R

refrigerator
renaissance
residue
reverberate
rheostat
river

S

schmuck
schtuck
sestina
shaboom
shag
shandy
shazam
sherm
shit
sissy
skullduggery
slobbery
snush
soft
solifluction
spackle
spermatozoon
spigot
splenetic
squirrel
succulent

T

tarradiddle
temerarious
tintinnabulation
tits
tittybiscuit
tossycock
trepidatious
triskadekaphobia
troglodyte
trousers
trump
tubular
tumescence
twat
twilight

U

underpants
usurper

V

verisimilitude
villainy

W

wash
wax
wet
why

X

xenomorph
xylophonist

Y

yee-haw
yttrium

Z

zither
zoetrope
zoom

-- Tuomas (tuomas.alh...), February 13th, 2005.

What Is Heck Is Wrong With You English?

When I graciously let my brother and his English wife use my house for one day, they used 16 teabags.

wins, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 21:37 (ten years ago) link

fp

cyfytlapdbfr? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 22:01 (ten years ago) link

me or blueski?

wins, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 22:36 (ten years ago) link

wins did a search engine designer do something bad to you?

ogmor, Thursday, 6 February 2014 00:33 (ten years ago) link

god I wish I had mod powers on this board

sarahell, Thursday, 6 February 2014 00:43 (ten years ago) link

Lol

wins, Thursday, 6 February 2014 06:55 (ten years ago) link

There's just no audience for long-form work anymore

wins, Thursday, 6 February 2014 06:56 (ten years ago) link

Anyway blueski made that long post 9 years ago, if you've never seen it before then maybe it doesn't affect the search function as much as you think it does? If you find it annoying to scroll past, bookmark the message after it. Seriously I've been here a year, I shouldn't be explaining this shit to you guys

You should read the post tho it's pretty funny hence inclusion here

wins, Thursday, 6 February 2014 07:14 (ten years ago) link

idk mayne btwn voting for rapezings and now this pugnacious stand ur havin a weird couple days

cyfytlapdbfr? (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 February 2014 07:20 (ten years ago) link

I'm having a weird month as it happens but tbf the former straight up never happened nor anything close to it?

wins, Thursday, 6 February 2014 07:26 (ten years ago) link

Like I haven't said anything about Matt's post cause there was no need, it was obviously not ok and anyone who claims it was is full of shit & knows it. I didn't know I had to formally vote against rapezings my form musta got lost in the post I swear

wins, Thursday, 6 February 2014 07:34 (ten years ago) link

Speaking of Matt, he c&p'd an entire thread recently so y'know I think the dire consequence of posting long posts is overstated

wins, Thursday, 6 February 2014 07:38 (ten years ago) link

ARE THEY, THOUGH?

my mills grind fine but slow, perhaps

Just you keep with the ultrapasting, you'll see, oh you'll see alright

cyfytlapdbfr? (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 February 2014 07:42 (ten years ago) link

as long as you don't let it get stale i am on board w/ the mega-pastes, it's yr thing now

ogmor, Thursday, 6 February 2014 07:46 (ten years ago) link

If it's my thing I'll stop

wins, Thursday, 6 February 2014 08:18 (ten years ago) link

B-) i am the master

ogmor, Thursday, 6 February 2014 08:44 (ten years ago) link

That makes me sad. Old Spice used to be for grown men.

― painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Friday, February 7, 2014 1:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Now it's just for groan men...

― And when you f--- up, you go backwards (snoball), Friday, February 7, 2014 1:58 PM (Yesterday)

sarahell, Saturday, 8 February 2014 11:58 (ten years ago) link

Its only redeemed when i bump it in two years

― selfie bans make dwight the yorke (darraghmac), Tuesday, February 11, 2014 4:10 PM (37 seconds ago)

sarahell, Wednesday, 12 February 2014 00:11 (ten years ago) link

re-deemed! I got that.

usic and luriqs by Stephen Sonnedheim (wins), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 00:16 (ten years ago) link

I don't know what selfie bans make dwight the yorke means tho. Do you, sarahell?

usic and luriqs by Stephen Sonnedheim (wins), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 00:18 (ten years ago) link

Oh cmon

selfie bans make dwight the yorke (darraghmac), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 00:19 (ten years ago) link

fuck you

usic and luriqs by Stephen Sonnedheim (wins), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 00:21 (ten years ago) link

I walked into a friggin lamppost tonight I might have concussions

usic and luriqs by Stephen Sonnedheim (wins), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 00:22 (ten years ago) link

If u die they will of been reaperconcussions non?http://img1.etsystatic.com/006/0/5324882/il_570xN.355451619_4xlt.jpg

selfie bans make dwight the yorke (darraghmac), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 00:27 (ten years ago) link

ohh

never heard that phrase with a "the" in it tbf

still seems horribly formed to me but you know lamppost

usic and luriqs by Stephen Sonnedheim (wins), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 00:33 (ten years ago) link

your puns are fucking shit deems la

Pedro Mba Obiang Avomo est un joueur de football hispano-ganéen (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 00:34 (ten years ago) link

pun dat

usic and luriqs by Stephen Sonnedheim (wins), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 00:36 (ten years ago) link

(lamppost)

usic and luriqs by Stephen Sonnedheim (wins), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 00:37 (ten years ago) link

Crankhi

selfie bans make dwight the yorke (darraghmac), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 00:37 (ten years ago) link

Narkhi

selfie bans make dwight the yorke (darraghmac), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 00:38 (ten years ago) link

quod fuerit demonstrandum

Pedro Mba Obiang Avomo est un joueur de football hispano-ganéen (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 00:43 (ten years ago) link

Mais avec plaisir

selfie bans make dwight the yorke (darraghmac), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 00:44 (ten years ago) link

lol at fuerit tho

selfie bans make dwight the yorke (darraghmac), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 00:45 (ten years ago) link

im watching benefits street

Pedro Mba Obiang Avomo est un joueur de football hispano-ganéen (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 00:47 (ten years ago) link

join me in immolating the welfare state

Pedro Mba Obiang Avomo est un joueur de football hispano-ganéen (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 00:48 (ten years ago) link

In yr current form? I'll pass.

Anyway no more o those threads for time being im getting regular exercise and studyin five nights a week i come here to relax

selfie bans make dwight the yorke (darraghmac), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 00:51 (ten years ago) link

thought i could rely on u, fuck it the postwar settlement isn't going to destroy itself

Pedro Mba Obiang Avomo est un joueur de football hispano-ganéen (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 00:53 (ten years ago) link

Postwar but a classwar mayne

the waifdom of gizzards (darraghmac), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 00:58 (ten years ago) link

ten months pass...

Lennon Vs McCartney

Enterprise Lesotho (nakhchivan), Saturday, 27 December 2014 22:32 (nine years ago) link

george harrison, lower left

imago, Sunday, 28 December 2014 01:35 (nine years ago) link

I'm pretty sure that Mrs. Jackson knew that Outkast fucked her daughter before she heard that song.

― He was only 21 years old when he 16 (Alex in SF), Thursday, 16 July 2009 16:44 (eleven years ago) bookmarkflaglink

imago, Saturday, 2 January 2021 19:54 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

another actor from Bosom Manor has died

sarahell, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 06:48 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

"for me, caring requires a willingness to engage, not just observe."

Wrong again!

― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, June 28, 2022 3:34 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I'm glad you won't be my caregiver in old age.

― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, June 28, 2022 8:38 AM (one hour ago)

sarahell, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 16:50 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Who has more "enthusiasm" for the Beatles: A teenage girl in 1964 screaming until she's blue in the face and passes out or a smug, self-satisfied 2022 Holden Caulfield nerd who posts "born in the wrong era" image macros on 4chan. Who can say?

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, July 13, 2022 12:51 PM (eighteen minutes ago)

sarahell, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link


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