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for this thought experiment he will also have had an english grandparent as he does irl

carla jenkinvingne (nakhchivan), Sunday, 24 November 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link

the important thing is never to talk about rugby with anyone in public

Number None, Sunday, 24 November 2013 16:10 (ten years ago) link

Bankrupt but getting away with it. Heda been cheering thu goys on today for sure.

30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link

Worst sickener ever IMO. Awful. We just can't let this be another one in five passion performance, have to play at that level in every game.

That final pen we conceded was criminal, seconds from victory. Awful.

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 November 2013 17:00 (ten years ago) link

The twenty thosand native southside dub irish and anyone from limerick who went to a private school, away ta fuck

This is bollocks obviously, about Limerick in particular. And rugby is increasingly popular on the north side, not just the posh bits either. You only have to see how tabloid coverage of it has ramped up in recent years.

Shouldn't even dignify this comatose grab for attention with a response but just this once.

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 November 2013 17:04 (ten years ago) link

<3

30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 17:28 (ten years ago) link

Took you long enough mind

Dundrum shopping centre was erupting that last five mins tbf

30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 17:35 (ten years ago) link

darragh mac is declan lynch and i claim my five euro. i know (we all do) the certain rugger bugger loafer wearing type darragh is referring to and i esp. hate the way said they rag on soccer ("rugby is a thugs game played by gentlemen, soccer is a gentlemans game played by SHUT THE FUCK UP). but yeah the whole of limerick city is rugby mad not just the toffs. i couldnt give a shit about munster though (exacerbated by the fact of working in rugby-mad pub here in limerick) but ive always been psyched for the ireland rugby team since i was a kid. today was heartbreaking tbh, watched the last 30 mins in a shopping centre too.

subaltern 8 (Michael B), Sunday, 24 November 2013 18:33 (ten years ago) link

Haha, took me long cos I was getting over the game. I'm from the north side and went to private school on the north side, FYI for future reference. Escaping on a technicality.

As the pain eases I can say that was one of the best rugby matches I've ever seen.

xpost

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 November 2013 18:34 (ten years ago) link

Michael otm tho, the partisan stuff on both sides has faded so much. Plus the success of the Irish sides breeds popularity. I actually think the club rugby at Heineken Cup level is the best sports event there is.

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 November 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link

Australia Ireland in the 91 WC is my earliest and most painful sporting memory. You'll never take that away from me darragh

Number None, Sunday, 24 November 2013 18:38 (ten years ago) link

I remember that well, I think I was too young to feel the pain. It's more my first memory of exhilarating sport.

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 November 2013 19:02 (ten years ago) link

Game face off for a sec, wc 95 and simon geoghegan and all that seemed like the advent of rugby taking off (out west obv) and the golden generation and club successes have made it a widespread sport to follow all over (except connacht i still think)- but i also think you'd have to acknowledge it can prob only fall from current popularity, and ime there is no grassroots outside of the rugby schools.....

Fair play to them tho theyve punched well above their weight a long time now, and could really teach our footy lads (and mayo obv) a thing or two abt matchday mentality

30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 19:05 (ten years ago) link

is it falling from popularity though? i dont see that. it seems as popular maybe even more popular than GAA in rural areas atm

subaltern 8 (Michael B), Sunday, 24 November 2013 19:14 (ten years ago) link

Think they manage it well around the gaa calendar- would say that it co-exists happily with the gaa but soccer seems to be viewed as a competitor (prob cos national team, trips to dub and abroad to watch them both, etc?) and thats been at a low ebb as rugby has powered on....monkeano 2 reverse that once bod dies

30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 19:17 (ten years ago) link

ireland must be in the top ten or so countries in the world for amount of fuck given about sports per capita

carla jenkinvingne (nakhchivan), Sunday, 24 November 2013 19:18 (ten years ago) link

all the anglo sports except cricket and maybe tennis with above average interest in golf and horses, and gaa on top of that

carla jenkinvingne (nakhchivan), Sunday, 24 November 2013 19:19 (ten years ago) link

yeah we fucking love sports

subaltern 8 (Michael B), Sunday, 24 November 2013 19:21 (ten years ago) link

Athletics does well interest wise
Gaa goes crazy for the few months of the year

Rugby- half of us go mad for it

Golf- half mad

horses- half mad

Soccer- mad

We'll watch anything if we can drink during sure

30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link

And to continue to claim malahide as northside is shambles on every level except for geographically imo, disgraceful sleight-of-land imo

30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link

wrong. it's not a poor area but north county dublin is a v diff place to south dublin. i don't have any personal claims about my class or whatever but i don't really get the south dublin thing either, it's a v diff world, compact, close-knit, nearer south city centre etc.

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 November 2013 19:56 (ten years ago) link

Game face off for a sec, wc 95 and simon geoghegan and all that seemed like the advent of rugby taking off (out west obv) and the golden generation and club successes have made it a widespread sport to follow all over (except connacht i still think)- but i also think you'd have to acknowledge it can prob only fall from current popularity, and ime there is no grassroots outside of the rugby schools.....

no way it can only fall from popularity though, the sport is well-run, frequently entertaining, and ireland have some of the best players and clubs in the world. connacht is growing too, it's all growing, as long as international football remains turgid and faintly corrupt rugby will keep growing. we can't claim to produce any significantly good footballers anymore, not relative to rugby when we have 2/3 all-time greats and 4/5 world class players.

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 November 2013 19:58 (ten years ago) link

aiden mcgeady would be a world class football player if it were only played in ireland/uk, new zealand/australia/south africa/france/italy/argentina/polynesia

carla jenkinvingne (nakhchivan), Sunday, 24 November 2013 20:09 (ten years ago) link

although maybe argentina in that list raises the world class level a bit about poor old aiden

carla jenkinvingne (nakhchivan), Sunday, 24 November 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link

/above/

carla jenkinvingne (nakhchivan), Sunday, 24 November 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link

will you stop banging on about mcgeady? everyone knows hes shit

subaltern 8 (Michael B), Sunday, 24 November 2013 20:12 (ten years ago) link

he wouldn't be world class even if it was only played in ireland/uk

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 November 2013 20:17 (ten years ago) link

not shit! but anyway, he's a placeholder there for the argument that world class necessarily means less in rugby than football, replace him with james mccarthy and he would probably be one of the best ten midfielders from that list of nations, but wouldn't be in a list of thirty worldwide

carla jenkinvingne (nakhchivan), Sunday, 24 November 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link

this supports lg's reasoning though, that success breeds popularity and the reasonable prospect of international success is in the favour of rugby wrt football

carla jenkinvingne (nakhchivan), Sunday, 24 November 2013 20:21 (ten years ago) link

can't argue with that, but i'm not sure that relative lack of meaning translates to fans, plus the smaller size of union does tend to mean better teams playing each other more often. that concentration of power does have its advantages.

xpost yeah like it's not that diff from gaa really, nobody is going to start talking about world class in an ireland-only sport but on a small island people are still going to get excited when an accessible team sport based on technical skills and aggression is practised well. rugby does appeal to the disgruntled uk/ire football fan too in some ways, with less of the class stuff in ireland to drag it down (despite what deems says!)

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 November 2013 20:27 (ten years ago) link

International rules football (Irish: Peil na rialacha idirnáisiunta; also known as inter rules in Australia and compromise rules in Ireland) is a team sport consisting of a hybrid of football codes, which was developed to facilitate international representative matches between Australian rules football players and Gaelic football players.

carla jenkinvingne (nakhchivan), Sunday, 24 November 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link

There is a great Apres Match clip about international rules.

http://youtu.be/CTog_cbfH-g

Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Sunday, 24 November 2013 20:36 (ten years ago) link

nakh has prob repped for mcgeady more than anyone else who has ever had to watch him on ilx

to the level of trolling tbfh

30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:29 (ten years ago) link

Rugby is ridic popular among all the GAA types I know, including the All-Stars. Popularity of golf and horse-racing probably underrated upthread too.

gyac, Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:31 (ten years ago) link

did we? i thought we paid them due respect tbh!

30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:33 (ten years ago) link

idk, maybe it was my ~circles~ but people fucking LOVE their golf and horses ime, and anything else seems underrating it.

gyac, Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:36 (ten years ago) link

heh maybe

my 'half mad' is a reference to half of the country being fucking *mad* about em tbf

30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:37 (ten years ago) link

all the anglo sports except cricket and maybe tennis with above average interest in golf and horses, and gaa on top of that

― carla jenkinvingne (nakhchivan), Sunday, 24 November 2013 19:19 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they qualified for the T20 World Cup only today

veneer timber (imago), Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:38 (ten years ago) link

ye'll have cricket e'en so's it's so you'll develop yer eoin morgans and boyd rankins and hand 'em over when ripe

― veneer timber (imago), Friday, 22 November 2013 05:39 (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

veneer timber (imago), Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:39 (ten years ago) link

yeah but no one cares

Number None, Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:39 (ten years ago) link

unless we beat the English obvs

gyac, Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:39 (ten years ago) link

there was a tiny ripple of interest when we beat England that time but that was cos y'know, we beat England

Number None, Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:41 (ten years ago) link

yeah that's the interest in other sports, the chance to beat the brits obv

re: golf- interest comes and goes a good bit imo, but when the ryder cup or w/e comes along it's feverish

30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:41 (ten years ago) link

yeah but no one cares

― Number None, Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:39 (1 minute ago)

right

a poet and Educational Consultant based in Peterborough (nakhchivan), Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:41 (ten years ago) link

feel like horses are the real irish sport

a poet and Educational Consultant based in Peterborough (nakhchivan), Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:42 (ten years ago) link

~glory~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imqwnWWegVI

veneer timber (imago), Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:43 (ten years ago) link

mmm, but all the golf courses/pitch & putts throughout the country though? I'm sure I read we had one of the highest golf course/people rations in the world.

also, we have actually produced golfers worthy of the Ryder Cup & they'd be pretty recognised.

gyac, Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link

well we're kinda a golf course waiting to happen all over the country- had an argument with tuomas before on this re it being an elite sport everywhere in the world- and with that comes production of golfers i guess....kinda like being one of relatively few countries playing rugby (tho for rugby it's through an infrastructure of private schools and privilege obv)

but im not arguing that golf isn't a big sport here!

but it is one of them that swells and ebbs every few years. snooker, darts, f1- often i dont wonder if they each have a few years in cycle with what RTE covers that few years or w/e- but yeah golf's over that plateau now ito the availability and popularity of participation

30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:50 (ten years ago) link

ah golf is big at every major ime - more in terms of watching it than necessarily playing it tho.

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:56 (ten years ago) link

club membership out west is about 100 quid a year and most lads would have a set of clubs or access to same, so plenty would play it regularly when weather allows but yeah again with a big event interest peaks ito watching/discussion

blather and dhrink is still a big part of irish interest in whatever is on tv tho id say, we're all experts on the high jump once every four years etc

30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 23:01 (ten years ago) link


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