Sea Devils And Die: GeroniMoffat's Doctor Who In The 2010s

Five(ish) Doctors was entertaining, cameo-tastic, and occasionally very funny. It was a nice wee counterpoint to the earnestness of the real episode.

Damn, the BBC won't allow me to watch "Five(ish) Doctors" because I'm no in the UK... Is there any way to circumvent this?

The BBC site, that is.

Best LOL was Georgia Moffett being mithered by her dad while in the throes of labour.

Was her husband mithering her, no?

Or her at him. I can't remember now, but David T was definitely on the phone to her going "hmmm I'm sure there's something else I should be talking to her about..."

Tenant is Georgia's husband.

(Or was he just saying ma'am?)

No, she was mithering her husband because her dad had mithered her. She says something along the lines of "he promises if you do this one thing then he won't bother you again."

Rusty's part in it brought the lols.

that was very good - liked the incidental music gag and Peter Jackson mucking in. jolly well done all round, what

xposts, yes, I know, that's why I said "her husband".

I don't know if it was mentioned anywhere, but Sylveste McCoy was in a blockbuster Hollywood movie of The Hobbit.

He's the best thing about it though, boy should be proud.

Adam is AA

Tuomas that theme is called "I Am The Doctor" (yawn) tho tbf it is the only effective piece Gold has composed ever

(BTW Edinburgh is showing this Monday-Friday in the cinema again, does anyone know if it'll be on in London on Monday or Tuesday?)

[...at a time that won't clash with the Radiophonic Workshop at Rough Trade on Monday, or Lance Parkin & Alan Moore on Tuesday?]

Oh right, it gets a repeat then?

WAsn't actually sure fi the local cinema actually did the show since the time seemed to be struck out when i checked it on my phone's internet. & I'm not sure if they had updated time at all, still had a message about not knowing what the time would be until after the 13th.

Might be tempted to go see it again there if it was. Struck me watching it on my too small tv that it might have actually been good to see it in large scale.

saw this in an absolutely sold out packed theater in SF at noon, great fun, I thought it was all it could have been and then some. Theater got a great Strax intro where he told people to turn their phones off and talked about popcorn screaming as it is eaten, plus a nice tennant/smith pair up describing 3d with barbs about chins and wrinkly old lines. Special itself was wonderful. But, who was the scientist girl? who was her sister supposed to have been? where did she get the scarf? I thought at the end perhaps from Baker's Doctor, but...

Scientist girl was Kate Lethbridge-Stewart's daughter. Sister was plot angst. She probably made the scarf herself because she is a Doctor groupie.

I enjoyed that well enough tho I was a little let down by Hurt's part - like I felt I had been set up for a warped, bitter and near-murderous doctor/anti-doctor, then got a likeable chatty old cove along for the romp. Ditto the save-the-children Gallifrey stuff - much more interested in the Time Lords as dreadful dalek-level shits, get a bit of weight behind the 'push the button' billie-bomb question.

also, there seems to be an awfully big gulf between 'name of the doctor' and this. how come clara doesn't remember Hurt? what happened after that?

Clara never met that Doctor, as established at the end of The Name of the Doctor. Also, her memories of the time she spent as Clara fragments were hazy.

I thought the beginning of the episode was excellent rompish nu-Who fun, especially the Doctor trash talking to a rabbit. And the thirteen-Doctor resolution was terrific, which was great seeing as the resolutions are usually the worst bit of any episode. It did sag quite a bit in the middle though, there was rather too much survivor guilt really, could have done with more tension given how high the stakes actually were.

The very beginning, with the original opening credits and the school, was an excellent touch, also yes Capaldi yes Tom Baker.

I'm not exactly clear on what was supposed to have happened between the Doctor arriving on Trenzalore and the beginning of this episode, though.

Scarf girl is potentially a really good recurring character, hope she comes back.

seems like a likely future companion, if they want to move away from the sexiness with Capaldi and go more toward 'older fatherly figure' and 'normal kid' rather than 'supple 20 yr old sexpot'.

Quite a nice touch that Smith kept blaming Tennant for all the sexiness, there hasn't been much of that with his Doctor at all.

Odysseus Doctor is going to have a different feel from what we've had for a while, he's not just going to be ambling about getting into trouble. Somewhat wise for a show that's lacked direction in the last couple of years. That said, every time nu-Who has done Timelords they've been kind of terrible, maybe they always have been.

lol the rabbit bit was v funny

Five(ish) Doctors a total treat.

just realised the companion face that breaks in at the end of Moffatt's nightmare must be Matthew Waterhouse

Does he write NO MORE in English on a wall in Arcadia? If so why? I thought Gallifreyan looked very different.

He being the Doctor.

relationship between Kate and Osgood certainly looks a bit overfamiliar for boss & subordinate. &it does sound like Mum, Mum at the beginning of the show.

I missed the beginning image of the show when I watched it yesterday, currently watching the BBC3 repeat. Yeah very nice touch having the yard gate then the school at the beginning though I thought the 2 were pretty separate/distant in 1963.

It was translated for you by the TARDIS parked nearby

It's a sign pointing to Foreman's, not the gate. They're moderately close in 1988, walking distance anyway.

and thinking "man I hope Adam went to the cinema for this, even his shrivelled heart couldn't have resisted this much joy and delight":

apologise to have underestimated you, dude.

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every time nu-Who has done Timelords they've been kind of terrible, maybe they always have been.

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they arguably slashed the show's viewership in the '80s (along with other factors)

Just re-watched the Ozwhat and Kate intro, geekette sez something like, "Sorry, it's your personal phone, but I recognized the ringtone" which sounds more formal boss-subordinate than child-parent to me.

planning to rewatch this afternoon

I kind of forgot about the whole "ma'am"/"mum" thing so I retract the definitive statement re: glasses sidekick being Kate's daughter. I still think it's possible, though.

The BBC subtitles have her saying Ma'am. Also, when Osgood finds Lethbridge-Stewart alive and covered in Zygon goop she calls her Kate - which seems an unlikely thing for a daughter to do.

I liked a lot about this but re: woof's post, the "what about the children" slo-mo maypole dancing or whatever was laughably bad.

when glasses realized that the Zygons were hiding under the sheets, it was so, so good

Just re-watched the Ozwhat and Kate intro, geekette sez something like, "Sorry, it's your personal phone, but I recognized the ringtone" which sounds more formal boss-subordinate than child-parent to me.

Yeah, and in a later scene where Oswald finds Stewart all covered in Zygon goo, she calls her "Kate", not "mum". (Presumably, assuming she's not her daughter, the direness of the situation makes her drop the formalities; if she were her daughter, that'd be an odd time to switch from "mum" to her proper name.)

(xpost with Treefell, ha!)

the ma'am/mum discussion was had on skyfall as well, it's ma'am. there were some fanservice winks that i groaned at but many more i ate up gleefully, no idea if how that ratio holds for ppl that got the surely many more fanservice winks that sailed over my head. thought the way they worked in billie piper was alright (and i'm someone who looks at the rose stuff from afar w/ horror, it's definitely a huge impediment on me exploring the tennant era any further than the couple of episodes that i have). got a bit fanfiction at times but not as much as you might've feared. heavy xmas carol aspect to it and i could imagine some version of the doctor that worked as touched by an angel on the highway to heaven, the doctor using time travel to play this was yr life week after week. if this show had somehow been an american show for fifty years, occasionally changing it's nature and guise, i guarantee one of them would've been evangelical self improvement oprah pablum. matt smith really strong in this i thought, will be very sad to see him go. at the same time got such a charge out of seeing capaldi's lunatic eyes, do hope that means his doctor isn't neutered.

wondering what type of treaty the brits worked out w/ the zygons - did they give them australia? allow them to hang around and do whatever as long as they looked like human and then perhaps used prisoners as the living template?

Sentenced to ILX

p. sure the government would be chilled about letting Zygons take over the general populace provided they all agreed to vote Tory at the next election and MPs were exempt

kardashians iirc

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^ hahaha. I genuinely loved Rusty's bit on Five(ish) Doctors.

^and the exposure of John Barrowman's secret life

Missed the cast list, but I think Barrowman's secret wife was played by the lass who played Davison's daughter in At Home With The Braithwaites.

I never liked Colin Baker as the Doctor one bit, but he was great in the Five(ish) Doctors ("you really are from another planet, aren't you?").

Enjoyed DotD, but much like the rest of the episode, Tom Baker's presence didn't make any sense, but it reminded me a bit of Hartnell's own fragile turn in The Three Doctors. Quite moving.
Yeah, such a shame Ecclestone didn't do this. That would've been great, miserable sod. He's had a 'no Dr Who questions' clause added into his part in the publicity junkets for Thor 2 :(

Has Davison done any writing for canonical Who? Because on the basis of "Five(ish)," I think he'd be great at a one-off, plus he'd be able to write himself, Colin Baker, and/or McCoy into it.