Conspicuously similar follow-ups to hit singles that became hits in their own right, but are now mostly forgotten because people only remember the first hit

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Yeah, didn't read the thread title carefully enough--the Jackson 5 don't belong.

clemenza, Sunday, 24 November 2013 05:54 (ten years ago) link

It's interesting just to talk about similar sounding follow-up hits regardless of whether they're remembered, though. I used to think Gary Puckett and the Union Gap's hits were very similar, but I don't know anymore. They sound fairly distinct to me now.

In a way, I'm not crazy about the idea that those three Jackson Five hits are super similar. I think, "Well, it's a genre." But the first two are in the same key and there are other similarities.

timellison, Sunday, 24 November 2013 06:06 (ten years ago) link

yeah things like that and "You Really Got Me"/"All Day And All Of The Night" seem out of the purview of this thread just because both songs are pretty successful and revered

some dude, Sunday, 24 November 2013 06:17 (ten years ago) link

I'm not willing to listen to it and check but I remember thinking ''Ends'' by Everlast was essentially the same song as ''What It's Like,'' with added spacey noises. Hard to really tell the difference between ''trying to rewrite the same song'' and ''act just has limited range of abilities.''

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 24 November 2013 13:48 (ten years ago) link

I love both songs, but Future's "Turn On The Lights" and "Neva End" were not only released back-to-back as singles but were both originally recorded in the same night. the latter was remixed with Kelly Rowland for the single, though, so that differentiated them a little bit.

some dude, Sunday, 24 November 2013 14:54 (ten years ago) link

Milli Vanilli followed the #2 hit "Girl You Know It's True" with the extremely similar "Baby Don't Forget My Number" which went to #1. It seems completely forgotten now, I don't think I've ever heard it since the late 80's, but everybody knows the first one.

Is that the case? Milli Vanilli is the "don't forget my number / love is stronger than thunder" band to me, and I can't even remember how "Girl You Know It's True" goes.
OK, last.fm play stats seem to support this theory, with "Baby Don't Forget My Number" only their 4th-most-listened to track! Weird.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 24 November 2013 15:02 (ten years ago) link

Every Everclear song I've heard

― brimstead, Friday, November 22, 2013 12:05 AM (2 days ago)

This is otm

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 24 November 2013 15:04 (ten years ago) link

"Girl I'm Gonna Miss You" is truly the forgotten Milli Vanilli chart-topper, but "True" and "Rain" have definitely remained more famous than "Baby"

some dude, Sunday, 24 November 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link

What was that a follow-up to?
Vengaboys- We Like To Party

MarkoP, Sunday, 24 November 2013 15:53 (ten years ago) link

"We Like to Party" came out after "Up & Down"

Josefa, Sunday, 24 November 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link

Ahh, then Wikipedia lied to me.

MarkoP, Sunday, 24 November 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvujgcbaCF8

StanM, Sunday, 24 November 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link

"Hot Rod Hearts," #15 follow up to Robbie Dupree's "Steal Away"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpk4-_ENCVw

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 November 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link

Somewhat similar, clearly consolidating on success

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpWLqxUgKGA

jmm, Sunday, 24 November 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsqKdZ3JZ2k

J. Sam, Sunday, 24 November 2013 21:01 (ten years ago) link

five years pass...

I'm sure Europeans at least remember that Haddaway had a second big hit, besides "What Is Love", with "Life". But how many of you remember he followed it with a third hit, "Rock My Heart"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BdnVwqXXWU

Tuomas, Monday, 14 October 2019 12:00 (four years ago) link

Oops was the more famous song, wasn't it?

Strangest comment I've ever read on ilx.

ahah indeed. still is !

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 14 October 2019 13:05 (four years ago) link

Would venture that the comments about Aqua and Right Said Fred are also strange.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 14 October 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link

Dire Straits, "Lady Writer". Practically a rewrite of "Sultans of Swing".

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Monday, 14 October 2019 13:46 (four years ago) link

really? at this point i have basically no idea at all how 'don't talk, just kiss' went xp

the creator has a mazda van (NickB), Monday, 14 October 2019 13:49 (four years ago) link

Dire Straits, "Lady Writer"

Was this a hit? I've never heard of it.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Monday, 14 October 2019 13:50 (four years ago) link

it got to 28 in the netherlands tom, ffs keep up man

the creator has a mazda van (NickB), Monday, 14 October 2019 13:52 (four years ago) link

thanks to broken links and no descriptions, i can't tell if he's mentioned upthread, but...

chubby checker basically made his name doing this. in fact, there's surely other early rock n rollers who tried to milk the same dance tune for all it was worth before the next craze took over. like, bill haley's follow up to "rock around the clock" was "let's keep that clock a-rockin'" which was followed a little later by "the clock-a-doodle-doo rock"

andrew m., Monday, 14 October 2019 14:17 (four years ago) link

Nillson - Everybody's Talkin' / I Guess the Lord Must Be In New York City

fetter, Monday, 14 October 2019 14:20 (four years ago) link

xps Don't Talk Just Kiss is not a great single in the cold light of 2019, but it really doesn't sound anything like I'm Too Sexy.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 14 October 2019 14:20 (four years ago) link

Scottish singer Aneka followed her UK No.1 single 'Japanese Boy' in 1981 with a song called 'Little Lady' that featured the same Japanese look and high-pitched vocals.

It didn't get anywhere, but fitted in perfectly on the kitschy German Musikladen TV show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs_ge4GzHKo

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Monday, 14 October 2019 14:23 (four years ago) link

just listen to the first line in this song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5WSqWJ4obg

there was also this song which wasn't a single but I wish he had the balls to release it as one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQQN2COazQQ

frogbs, Monday, 14 October 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link

I've always considered "Get Off of My Cloud" a far inferior version of its immediate predecessor single "Satisfaction". It did hit #1 in its own right but appears to be far down in the canon of Stones singles and I never seem to hear it on classic rock stations or whatever.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Monday, 14 October 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link

The Staples Singers "If You're Ready (Come Go With Me)," versus "I'll Take You There."

weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Monday, 14 October 2019 16:46 (four years ago) link

But how many of you remember he followed it with a third hit, "Rock My Heart"?

In the UK that was actually his fourth hit after the heart-rending ballad 'I Miss You' released a week before Christmas. Sad!

nashwan, Monday, 14 October 2019 16:56 (four years ago) link

(xp) Always preferred "I'll Take You There" tbh.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Monday, 14 October 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link

I can never remember how "Wild Thing" and "Funky Cold Medina" differ from each other until I hear them back to back.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 14 October 2019 19:31 (four years ago) link

^Me neither, and I actually thought of that pair when I saw this thread title (but wasn't totally sure which came first!)

drunk on hot toddies (morrisp), Monday, 14 October 2019 19:57 (four years ago) link

Tommy James: "I Think We're Alone Now" followed up by "Mirage", which is next-level in that the latter was built from playing the chords of the former backwards.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 October 2019 22:51 (four years ago) link

It’s funny that when you do this with the best song ever you still end up with a top ten song of all time.

Talking about Shannon following up
“Let The Music Play” with “Give Me Tonight”, of course.

(although I don’t think GMT is completely forgotten)

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 09:08 (four years ago) link

Petula Clark's "I Know a Place" may not meet all the criteria, but the lyrics are so similar, thematically, to those of its (almost more certainly better known) predecessor, "Downtown", that I doubt I could reliably identify which lines are from which.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 10:01 (four years ago) link

I literally thought 'Only the Lonely' and 'Suddenly Last Summer' were the same song for years and had created some kind of Brundlefly mashup of the two in my head.

Furter-Bursting Tater Squirter (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 12:44 (four years ago) link

oh "I'll Take You There" blows its followup out of the water, no question there

weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 14:40 (four years ago) link

Mmmmmmm....

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 17:18 (four years ago) link

Saw a recent interview with Francis Rossi where he talked about how he tried to make the second Status Quo single a bit but not a lot like the first (hit) single. Then he heard it on the radio when it came out, and went oops.

I do remember hearing it on the radio (a long while after) and yeah.

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 17:21 (four years ago) link

"Black veils of melancholy"

Good title, but.

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 17:21 (four years ago) link

Ten years from now:
PSY- Gentleman

― MarkoP, Thursday, November 21, 2013 11:56 AM (five years ago) bookmarkflaglink

just six years, but marko otm

flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Maggie May...You Wear It Well

fetter, Sunday, 3 November 2019 21:38 (four years ago) link

... yes.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Sunday, 3 November 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link

Sly & the Family Stone, "Dance to the Music" ---> "M'Lady"

... not forgotten though ... I hope.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Sunday, 3 November 2019 21:51 (four years ago) link

It's not a follow up but I happened to notice the other day that "Everything I Do Gonh Be Funky (From Now On)" by Lee Dorsey is a crafty re-write of "Working in a Coal Mine".

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Sunday, 3 November 2019 21:52 (four years ago) link

“You Wear It Well” will always be remembered by those of us who watched TV in the late ‘80s:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNxaCO65Bdk

dracula et son fils (morrisp), Sunday, 3 November 2019 21:53 (four years ago) link

It's not a follow up but I happened to notice the other day that "Everything I Do Gonh Be Funky (From Now On)" by Lee Dorsey is a crafty re-write of "Working in a Coal Mine".

That's probably the most obvious one, but Toussaint and Sehorn recycled licks from "Coalmine" in several other Dorsey sides ("My Old Car" among others).

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 4 November 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link

Motorhead's "Motorhead" (taken from Hammersmith and a hit in 1981) sounds a lot like its immediate predecessor "Ace of Spades", but that's cheating because Motorhead had a very distinctive musical vision. Along similar lines I find it hard to tell apart Creedence Clearwater Revival's run of hit singles, but again I'm sure there are lots of blues-rock and punk-rock bands that had a run of near-identical songs simply because that was their style.

Eiffel 65 tried to follow up "I'm Blue" by spinning off the little blue chap in the video into a separate pop career as Zorotl, supposedly because they had access to the CGI model and why not. The song wasn't a hit and it's pretty dreadful but as with the rest of the band's records it sounds as if they had a set of samples loaded into their Akai and a bunch of sequences in Cubase that they tweaked a little bit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qdj0uuMxaeg

I bet you a million pounds if you went through Eiffel 65's hard drive all the songs would be called new(1).all and new(2).all etc. The Zorotl project is also notable for having a really old website that was launched in 2000 and still exists:
https://zorotl.com/

They tried to flesh out the character's backstory, but the world wasn't interested. The continued existence of the website implies that success is just around the corner, and perhaps one day the world will fall in love again with late-1990s novelty dance-pop.

The discussion up the page about Aqua made me feel old, because I enjoyed their music on the same level as Carly Rae Jepsen, e.g. it was incredibly professional dance-pop. Nowadays people only remember "Barbie Girl". It's as if people my age - people - are ashamed of their past. Sadly they never really transitioned from novelty band into actual bona-fide band-band, unlike e.g. The Cardigans, who started off as part of the lounge-pop scene but became an actual proper band.

There was an Aqua clone called Toy-Box whose first single was about Tarzan and Jane. I note that their seventh single was called "www.girl", but it was 2001, at which point the internet wasn't as novel as it had been in 1998 or so. While I'm writing this paragraph it strikes me that Ace of Base is a negative example, in that "The Sign" has largely overshadowed "All That She Wants", or at least it gets played on the radio more often, albeit not very often.

I remember that Phats and Small's follow-up to "Turn Around" sounded like a variation of that song with different vocals, but the next single after that was pretty good and is now totally forgotten as is Phats and Small. The Prodigy's "Breathe" has a similar production style to "Firestarter" but when people think about the band they generally picture Keith Flint in the video for "Firestarter". In fact The Prodigy's initial run of singles, e.g. "Charly" to "Wind it Up", sound a lot like each other.

Ashley Pomeroy, Monday, 4 November 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link

Ace of Base might actually be an example, because their next single after "All That She Wants" wasn't "The Sign" but "Happy Nation", which sounds more like "ATSW" than "The Sign" does ("The Sign" wasn't originally even on their debut album, it was recorded after it came out and was added to its later printings), and which rarely gets played these days.

Tuomas, Monday, 4 November 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link


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