JFK assassination: was any consensus ever reached as to who actually did it and why?

I wonder if there are any other interesting comparisons one could make between the Lincoln and Kennedy assassinations.

Meryl Streep showed interest in playing the heroes in each film adaptation.

GARFIELD was SHOT by an ASSAILANT in a TRAIN STATION while MCKINLEY was SHOT by an ASSAILANT STATIONED in a TRAIN of PEOPLE.

Time for FR33M4$0RY!!!!

I'm watching the CBS coverage from Saturday morning, and Marvin Kalb said, I think, that words explicitly referring to the "international Communist conspiracy" were in Oswald's original indictment's text. Then those words disappeared; "we do not know if that was at an official request."

Then Cronkite talked about LBJ's history of heart attacks.

Texas Theatre rescreens double bill, stops "War Is Hell" at point Oswald was arrested

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/moviesnow/la-et-mn-texas-theatre--kennedy-assassination-20131122,0,6120322.story#axzz2lTyWzc16

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFM02ItYKbY

pretty clear to me now

comments on that are quality

i used to have arguments with a mate of mine about whether 9/11 was a conspiracy or not.

i'd say a dozen guys from saudi arabia, egypt, and elsewhere spending years traveling around the world plotting three hijackings is the definition of a conspiracy.

or does the word "conspiracy" have to mean "crazypants theory" now?

outlandish conspiracy theories about Reptilians/Illuminati theories exist to make the REAL conspiracies like Chemtrails and the moon landing hoax look ridiculous

The real puppet masters sit back and laugh while we squirm

nicholson baker (and a lot of other people, apparently): the mob did it

http://www.thebaffler.com/salvos/dallas-killers-club/

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a38623/cia-jfk-conspiracy-theories/

Man, Libra is looking less and less like fiction as time goes on

it's like Joseph Heller fanfic at this point

Barring a presidential block, the final files will be released on October 26, 2017.

Which is also Hillary Clinton's 70th birthday.

about a year ago I was finally convinced, for once and for all, that LHO did it, and did it alone. but now i've forgotten exactly what convinced me.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/de/fa/0b/defa0bf928955f8117865c2b2b317681.gif

I tried to think of a good President Trump joke but couldn't.

Kennedy's as dead as that crab meat, the government's alive and breathing. You gonna line up with a dead man, Jimbo?

:D

fuck yeah!

about a year ago I was finally convinced, for once and for all, that LHO did it, and did it alone. but now i've forgotten exactly what convinced me.

― rip van wanko, Thursday, January 28, 2016 12:47 AM (1 hour ago)

haha tbh i am a relatively recent convert to the idea that it was a conspiracy and oswald was a patsy. it seems oddly fitting that most everyone who takes an interest in this subject ends up going back and forth from version to version indefinitely.

always loved the house special committee on assassinations' supposedly debunked conclusion: that it was probably a conspiracy, but definitely did not involve any of the parties in an attached comprehensive and ideologically plural list of suggested parties to the kennedy assassination: castro, exiled cubans, the cia, organized crime, the ussr, etc.

...and this guy Bertrand!

that is precisely the point of a long dining table

that is precisely the point of two brothers

http://i.imgur.com/fN02cmA.jpg

RIP Mark Lane

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/13/us/mark-lane-who-asserted-that-kennedy-was-killed-in-conspiracy-dies-at-89.html

oliver stone says one of the conspirators contacted him after he made his film to confess his role in the assassination:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3762617/JFK-assassination-inside-job-Ex-government-agent-claimed-team-killed-president-remarkable-deathbed-confession-director-Oliver-Stone.html

hearing him talk is weird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY8fRTLtgzA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FDDuRSgzFk

i guess i never got why he played the innocent card and didn't yell stuff like DEATH TO THE TYRANTS USSR IS #1 or something.

maybe cuz he was innocent?

lol

yeah oswald's behavior after his arrest does not make much sense if you assume he was a sincere castro supporter/wannabe commie hero

i mean did he think he was gonna get away with it?

OTOH if the plan was to fundamentally destabilize the American government, making it seem like a rogue faction within it assassinated the president is a good idea.

Surely LIFE will publish souvenir editions of Krassner's "The Parts That Were Left Out of the Kennedy Book"

:D

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, November 18, 2013

http://www.ep.tc/realist/74/

lol yay thx morbz

happy anniversary!!!

unlike Kathy Griffin, Krassner didn't apologize.

hero

https://news.clickhole.com/a-piece-of-history-the-massive-ass-implants-that-kille-1825121298

say what you like about trump, but at least he’s naturally dummy thicc

buttbuttinated

guys I finally read Libra
i dunno what I’ve been doing with my life until now. i really love the psychological portrait of Oswald, and Ruby as well.

can anyone recommend a good nonfic that’s not completely crackpot but maybe allows for ~some~ conspiracy?

or something that is a good followup to Libra.

or just a good nonfic.

haha i read a bunch of books on this a few years ago and i kinda couldn't stop for a while -- it's like the nonfiction equivalent of potato chips.

"not in your lifetime" by anthony summers is a good one, probably the best place to begin. he reviews all the basic stuff -- single bullet, oswald's weird background, all the major theories -- in a sober and objective way. i think this is the one that finally tilted me toward thinking it was probably a conspiracy.

david talbot's biography of allen dulles from a couple years back is great, and touches on the jfk assassination in a couple of chapters (he doesn't push a conspiracy theory too hard, but everything he writes about is firmly in "huh, that looks suspicious..." territory.)

this one's a bit more offbeat but gaeton fonzi's "the last investigation" is a memoir by someone who worked on the church committee and the HSCA investigation and ended up focusing on oswald's alleged CIA connections. pretty gripping stuff imo.

gerald posner's "case closed" is a very readable defense of the official account that a lot of ppl credit with convincing them that all of the conspiracy theories were wrong. my main issue with it is that posner is so eager to wrap up all of the loose ends that he leaves you thinking it's a lot more open-and-shut than it really is -- he is far too dismissive of, eg, jack ruby's mafia ties. but it's worth reading. there's also the doorstop-sized vincent bugliosi book that i abandoned after a while because i realized it was basically 10 percent information and 90 percent bugliosi making fun of people, which normally i'd be down for, but not for 3,000 pages.

oh shit i love Anthony Summers, i didnt know he had a jfk book.

thx for the recs, these all look great!

there’s just something about it, all the names & places, you can’t just casually read about it- it really sucks you in