JFK assassination: was any consensus ever reached as to who actually did it and why?

We're reading echoes. ECHOES.

slapping together a whole book of "alternate history" to sell to fantasizing olds is so ugh

Skimming the book to see how Mr. Greenfield maneuvers Kennedy through civil rights (a bill dies in Congress in ’64, but Kennedy manages to sign a voting rights act in his second term) and Vietnam (he withdraws U.S. forces)

of course he does

Known to millions simply by her middle name, Kennedy helped bring the cutting edge of culture into our living rooms during the 1990s through her outrageous segments as an MTV VJ, host of Alternative Nation, and on-the-spot correspondent for MTV News. She interviewed everyone from fame-averse Seattle rock musicians to vapid celebrities and politicians, asking the taboo questions no one else would as she navigated between true artists and phony poseurs. In The Kennedy Chronicles, she gives us a backstage pass at the last golden years of the cable network that defined a generation.

ya done shot the rong Kennedy

I have zero doubt there was a conspiracy, and the truth is probably as nutty as (but different from) Oliver Stone's.

Every time i see a picture of him and Jackie in the limo, I think about how he's the one guy who's missed out on all this.

ha this is great:

The morning he was killed, the president turned to his wife and quipped, “You know, we’re heading into nut country.” Oswald, in addition to being too small, was not even the right kind of nut—a poor, self-educated, left-leaning kook who couldn’t hold down a job in a city of rich, white racists who were furious with the president.

always nice to see the right wing counter-ritual of "oswald was a communist" at these times

I always remember him as a resident of Texas.

also as the guy who mighta gone in this wrecka stowe that morning

http://frontrow.dmagazine.com/2013/11/the-oak-cliff-record-store-that-was-dragged-into-the-jfk-assassination-saga-survives/

wtf that is the second time today someone has made a wrecka stow joke/ref to me

Jeez, right-wingers are still doing this?? Even when I was a child and every union member and FDR fan was a " Communist" I didn't even hear that one. I knew he was a communist but also a really angry and anti-social loner. You're missing a lot of history if you avoid Oswald.

One of my favorite anti-communists, Fred Schwarz, blamed Maoism for it. Sounds crazy now.

TV coverage is blessedly conspiracist-free - think of all the people who would be hurt and offended.

but TV coverage is not pomp or fatuity free, alas

hey that's a great article, thanks Morbs xxxp

here we go, "new footage"

http://www.thewrap.com/jfk-assassination-new-footage-producer-stephen-bowen-lee-harvey-oswald

i wonder if pruitt taylor vince and vincent d'onofrio will be in the footage

i used to have arguments with a mate of mine about whether 9/11 was a conspiracy or not. i didnt think it was and he did as he'd recently seen "zeitgeist" and was now all about 9/11 being a conspiracy. then he would ask, "did you think the kennedy assassination was a conspiracy?". id say "yeah i think its likely" and then i was hit with "ahhh well if the US government would do that why wouldnt something like 9/11 be a conspiracy??" GROAN

well there actually are precedents for political leaders being killed by conspiracies, there's not really any precedent for a conspiracy as airtight and leak-proof as a government-planned 9/11 would have had to be. oh and plus there is actually no evidence at all that 9/11 was a conspiracy.

rip capnlorax

the lincoln assassination was a conspiracy: booth and five of his friends.

yes, incl the one who stabbed Seward.

is anyone watchin the CBS News webcast from 11/22/63?

I feel like it's been on for 50 years the entire month of November

Sunday morning w/ Jack Ruby could be innaresting

there are some plausible theories that booth had connections to the confederate secret service.

I wonder if there are any other interesting comparisons one could make between the Lincoln and Kennedy assassinations.

Meryl Streep showed interest in playing the heroes in each film adaptation.

GARFIELD was SHOT by an ASSAILANT in a TRAIN STATION while MCKINLEY was SHOT by an ASSAILANT STATIONED in a TRAIN of PEOPLE.

Time for FR33M4$0RY!!!!

I'm watching the CBS coverage from Saturday morning, and Marvin Kalb said, I think, that words explicitly referring to the "international Communist conspiracy" were in Oswald's original indictment's text. Then those words disappeared; "we do not know if that was at an official request."

Then Cronkite talked about LBJ's history of heart attacks.

Texas Theatre rescreens double bill, stops "War Is Hell" at point Oswald was arrested

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/moviesnow/la-et-mn-texas-theatre--kennedy-assassination-20131122,0,6120322.story#axzz2lTyWzc16

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFM02ItYKbY

pretty clear to me now

comments on that are quality

i used to have arguments with a mate of mine about whether 9/11 was a conspiracy or not.

i'd say a dozen guys from saudi arabia, egypt, and elsewhere spending years traveling around the world plotting three hijackings is the definition of a conspiracy.

or does the word "conspiracy" have to mean "crazypants theory" now?

outlandish conspiracy theories about Reptilians/Illuminati theories exist to make the REAL conspiracies like Chemtrails and the moon landing hoax look ridiculous

The real puppet masters sit back and laugh while we squirm

nicholson baker (and a lot of other people, apparently): the mob did it

http://www.thebaffler.com/salvos/dallas-killers-club/

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a38623/cia-jfk-conspiracy-theories/

Man, Libra is looking less and less like fiction as time goes on

it's like Joseph Heller fanfic at this point

Barring a presidential block, the final files will be released on October 26, 2017.

Which is also Hillary Clinton's 70th birthday.

about a year ago I was finally convinced, for once and for all, that LHO did it, and did it alone. but now i've forgotten exactly what convinced me.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/de/fa/0b/defa0bf928955f8117865c2b2b317681.gif

I tried to think of a good President Trump joke but couldn't.

Kennedy's as dead as that crab meat, the government's alive and breathing. You gonna line up with a dead man, Jimbo?

:D

fuck yeah!

about a year ago I was finally convinced, for once and for all, that LHO did it, and did it alone. but now i've forgotten exactly what convinced me.

― rip van wanko, Thursday, January 28, 2016 12:47 AM (1 hour ago)

haha tbh i am a relatively recent convert to the idea that it was a conspiracy and oswald was a patsy. it seems oddly fitting that most everyone who takes an interest in this subject ends up going back and forth from version to version indefinitely.

always loved the house special committee on assassinations' supposedly debunked conclusion: that it was probably a conspiracy, but definitely did not involve any of the parties in an attached comprehensive and ideologically plural list of suggested parties to the kennedy assassination: castro, exiled cubans, the cia, organized crime, the ussr, etc.

...and this guy Bertrand!