Conspicuously similar follow-ups to hit singles that became hits in their own right, but are now mostly forgotten because people only remember the first hit

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also lol "Poker Face"? if only people had forgotten that song

deX! (DJP), Friday, 22 November 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link

Weird, I can count the times I've heard it on the radio on one hand. Way dwarfed by "I Can't Help Myself (Sugar Pie, Honey Bunch)."

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Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 22 November 2013 16:12 (ten years ago) link

Is there a thread for the related topic of "Follow-ups to hit singles that became hits in their own right, but are now mostly forgotten because they were middling ballads?" (Ie: Tiffany's Could've Been)

MarkoP, Friday, 22 November 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link

it may be early for this but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASO_zypdnsQ

katherine, Friday, 22 November 2013 16:44 (ten years ago) link

Someone remind me what the follow-up to I'm Too Sexy was called

Papa Roachford (NickB), Friday, 22 November 2013 17:04 (ten years ago) link

Deeply Dippy?

deX! (DJP), Friday, 22 November 2013 17:05 (ten years ago) link

lol my second guess was going to be "Don't Talk, Just Kiss" and apparently I know more about Right Said Fred singles than I thought

deX! (DJP), Friday, 22 November 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link

That's the one! You're putting that graduate diploma in Richard Fairbrass studies to good use

Papa Roachford (NickB), Friday, 22 November 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link

the opposite of this is Ace Of Base -
first hit "All That She Wants" was a global smash and a UK #1
very similar sounding follow-up "The Sign" was also a hit, but reached #2 in the UK

in the U.S. the chart positions are reversed and "The Sign" was much bigger - continued Jock Jams level stadium ubiquity.
many Americans, especially sports fans, consider Ace Of Base a one-hit wonder and don't even know "All That She Wants"

further proof that Americans are weird :)

Paul, Friday, 22 November 2013 17:09 (ten years ago) link

America was a weird follow-up to the UK, and now nobody remembers America.

Mark G, Friday, 22 November 2013 17:13 (ten years ago) link

many Americans, especially sports fans, consider Ace Of Base a one-hit wonder and don't even know "All That She Wants"

I don't think this is true; I've never seen anyone be perplexed by or forget the existence of "All That She Wants" or "Don't Turn Around"

deX! (DJP), Friday, 22 November 2013 17:23 (ten years ago) link

"Don't Talk Just Kiss" is probably one of the most ridiculous songs of all time.

Wasn't exactly the followup up single (it was one full album later), but I think "I Knew I Loved You" was a deliberate attempt to copy "Truly Madly Deeply" and though they both hit #1 in the US I haven't heard "I Knew I Loved You" or heard anybody talk about it for like 10 years.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Friday, 22 November 2013 17:33 (ten years ago) link

The Tamperer featuring Maya's 'If You Buy This Record Your Life Will Be Better'

PaulTMA, Friday, 22 November 2013 17:38 (ten years ago) link

Crowded House - "Don't Dream It's Over" ---> "Something So Strong"

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 November 2013 17:38 (ten years ago) link

Edwin Starr followed up "War" with "Stop the War Now," which reached US Pop #26.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_3IlIHYzxo

late adopter, Friday, 22 November 2013 19:11 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXHYCP9a0W8

George Washingtron (Old Lunch), Saturday, 23 November 2013 00:02 (ten years ago) link

many Americans, especially sports fans, consider Ace Of Base a one-hit wonder and don't even know "All That She Wants"

All That She Wants was big in America. What does sports have to do with anything?

I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Saturday, 23 November 2013 02:00 (ten years ago) link

they play songs at baseball games - they play "The Sign" all the time - they never play "All That She Wants"

Paul, Saturday, 23 November 2013 04:30 (ten years ago) link

oh huh -- from how I remember it "I Knew I Loved You" practically engulfed every other single the band did

katherine, Saturday, 23 November 2013 04:34 (ten years ago) link

Everyone remembers "Cotton Eye Joe" by Rednex

buzza, Saturday, 23 November 2013 04:36 (ten years ago) link

At first blush I thought "Hey You" was outkast's follow up to ... ah, nevermind. I'll get me hat & coat...

Listening to "Dance the King-Fu" right now. It's more gloriously dire than I could ever have imagined.

A sort of "Sister Ray" for the mentally handicapped (staggerlee), Saturday, 23 November 2013 04:40 (ten years ago) link

even with Jock Jams ubiquity factored out I guess the Ace Of Base thing can also be explained by the sales/airplay comparison - according to Billboard "The Sign" is the #60 biggest U.S. hit of all time! who knew? (and for the decade of the nineties the two songs rank at #11 for The Sign and #70 for All That She Wants, though the latter was apparently one of the biggest #2 hits ever)

still I was initially surprised talking with Americans who only associated the band with The Sign… learning of the sports exposure helped make more sense of that. anyway, Dan you're hanging out with the rarified Kiss Me (x3) as best Cure album and Leela best companion cognoscenti !

Paul, Saturday, 23 November 2013 05:19 (ten years ago) link

I was under the impression that most people in North America remembered both "The Sign" and "All That She Wants" about equally. It's songs like "Don't Turn Around" that have been more forgotten.

MarkoP, Saturday, 23 November 2013 15:10 (ten years ago) link

All three of those songs were totally ubiquitous in the mid-90s

old homophobic boom bap rap traditionalist (The Reverend), Saturday, 23 November 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link

Milli Vanilli followed the #2 hit "Girl You Know It's True" with the extremely similar "Baby Don't Forget My Number" which went to #1. It seems completely forgotten now, I don't think I've ever heard it since the late 80's, but everybody knows the first one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhyzGDPwmYU

LeRooLeRoo, Saturday, 23 November 2013 23:17 (ten years ago) link

I think the rain is to blame for that

Drugs A. Money, Saturday, 23 November 2013 23:34 (ten years ago) link

Of Monsters And Men's follow-up to "Little Talks" sounded exactly like it to an almost infuriating degree

some dude, Sunday, 24 November 2013 00:23 (ten years ago) link

Here's a good example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlv672jqbtE

MarkoP, Sunday, 24 November 2013 00:37 (ten years ago) link

^ What was that a follow-up to?

Josefa, Sunday, 24 November 2013 03:11 (ten years ago) link

Jackson 5, "I Want You Back"/"ABC"/"The Love You Save." More or less. Pretty common in the '60s, just not able to think of any right now.

clemenza, Sunday, 24 November 2013 03:43 (ten years ago) link

Sam the Sham & the Pharaohs, "Ju Ju Hand":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41TX4AS1Bn4

I'd never heard this song until two minutes ago. I just had this incredible premonition that it would sound a lot like "Wooly Bully."

clemenza, Sunday, 24 November 2013 03:50 (ten years ago) link

I've got a Sam best of cd on Rhino--24 Tracks!--and there's at least a further 2-4 trips to the "Wooly Bully" well on that set (not counting "Ju Ju Hand").

This was the follow-up to "Lil' Red Riding Hood", which at least gave him and his producers something new to retread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pep_on0GTKE

Maintenance Engineer of Foolhardiness (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 24 November 2013 05:10 (ten years ago) link

Jackson 5, "I Want You Back"/"ABC"/"The Love You Save."

None of these are forgotten though.

The Milli Vanilli one is an excellent example. I didn't remember that follow-up at all.

Josefa, Sunday, 24 November 2013 05:25 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, didn't read the thread title carefully enough--the Jackson 5 don't belong.

clemenza, Sunday, 24 November 2013 05:54 (ten years ago) link

It's interesting just to talk about similar sounding follow-up hits regardless of whether they're remembered, though. I used to think Gary Puckett and the Union Gap's hits were very similar, but I don't know anymore. They sound fairly distinct to me now.

In a way, I'm not crazy about the idea that those three Jackson Five hits are super similar. I think, "Well, it's a genre." But the first two are in the same key and there are other similarities.

timellison, Sunday, 24 November 2013 06:06 (ten years ago) link

yeah things like that and "You Really Got Me"/"All Day And All Of The Night" seem out of the purview of this thread just because both songs are pretty successful and revered

some dude, Sunday, 24 November 2013 06:17 (ten years ago) link

I'm not willing to listen to it and check but I remember thinking ''Ends'' by Everlast was essentially the same song as ''What It's Like,'' with added spacey noises. Hard to really tell the difference between ''trying to rewrite the same song'' and ''act just has limited range of abilities.''

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 24 November 2013 13:48 (ten years ago) link

I love both songs, but Future's "Turn On The Lights" and "Neva End" were not only released back-to-back as singles but were both originally recorded in the same night. the latter was remixed with Kelly Rowland for the single, though, so that differentiated them a little bit.

some dude, Sunday, 24 November 2013 14:54 (ten years ago) link

Milli Vanilli followed the #2 hit "Girl You Know It's True" with the extremely similar "Baby Don't Forget My Number" which went to #1. It seems completely forgotten now, I don't think I've ever heard it since the late 80's, but everybody knows the first one.

Is that the case? Milli Vanilli is the "don't forget my number / love is stronger than thunder" band to me, and I can't even remember how "Girl You Know It's True" goes.
OK, last.fm play stats seem to support this theory, with "Baby Don't Forget My Number" only their 4th-most-listened to track! Weird.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 24 November 2013 15:02 (ten years ago) link

Every Everclear song I've heard

― brimstead, Friday, November 22, 2013 12:05 AM (2 days ago)

This is otm

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 24 November 2013 15:04 (ten years ago) link

"Girl I'm Gonna Miss You" is truly the forgotten Milli Vanilli chart-topper, but "True" and "Rain" have definitely remained more famous than "Baby"

some dude, Sunday, 24 November 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link

What was that a follow-up to?
Vengaboys- We Like To Party

MarkoP, Sunday, 24 November 2013 15:53 (ten years ago) link

"We Like to Party" came out after "Up & Down"

Josefa, Sunday, 24 November 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link

Ahh, then Wikipedia lied to me.

MarkoP, Sunday, 24 November 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvujgcbaCF8

StanM, Sunday, 24 November 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link

"Hot Rod Hearts," #15 follow up to Robbie Dupree's "Steal Away"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpk4-_ENCVw

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 November 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link

Somewhat similar, clearly consolidating on success

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpWLqxUgKGA

jmm, Sunday, 24 November 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsqKdZ3JZ2k

J. Sam, Sunday, 24 November 2013 21:01 (ten years ago) link

five years pass...

I'm sure Europeans at least remember that Haddaway had a second big hit, besides "What Is Love", with "Life". But how many of you remember he followed it with a third hit, "Rock My Heart"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BdnVwqXXWU

Tuomas, Monday, 14 October 2019 12:00 (four years ago) link

Oops was the more famous song, wasn't it?

Strangest comment I've ever read on ilx.

ahah indeed. still is !

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 14 October 2019 13:05 (four years ago) link

lol, only just realized that Chubby Checker hasn't been invoked once itt. He pretty much made a career out of this.

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:32 (four weeks ago) link

He is mentioned in the other thread

you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:36 (four weeks ago) link

I mean I don't think song titles like "Let's Twist Again" are exactly conspicuous like people aren't going "hmmm I wonder if this is similar to his first hit, The Twist"

frogbs, Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:51 (four weeks ago) link

that's exactly what conspicuous means!

budo jeru, Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:11 (four weeks ago) link

Oh, I just thought of one. Went to #23 on the R&B charts in '73, a year after "Why Can't We Live Together"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6_lCi9DQJ4
Timmy Thomas - People are changing (1973)

budo jeru, Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:22 (four weeks ago) link

wouldn't conspicuous mean you're trying to get away with something?

frogbs, Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:25 (four weeks ago) link


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